Top Ninjas in Naruto

[Wolfus]

Re: Top 15

Yes. He knew Amaterasu was coming, he just couldn't react to it.



That explains why he didn't absorb it as an edo. ._.


Not all characters have top tier reactions. Nagato doesn't have reactions like Minato/Hashirama/Tobirama. Sure he could sense the build up, but he wouldn't be able to do anything.

He used shinra tensei. It's another option.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

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Considering the distance... It's no wonder. But what stops him from activating it the second he's hit, or as possible as he can? Amaterasu's feats of quickly burning are very few compared to those of it taking its time to burn a target. Nothing stops him from having it activated and making it useless prior to significant damage being done.

I'd leave it alone; anyone that tries to argue that Amaterasu would defeat Nagato is trying to use Fan-fiction in a debate.

They're defeated by their own scan - not only was Nagato not in control of hinself but allowed the Amaterasu to 'fester' before getting rid if it. Even then it'd barely cleared away his elbow.

At the same time; do you think we can use Madara's crazy new fears to infer a living Nagato is more durable than shown?

 

[Penguin]

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That's merely a fan theory.

Then how come it burned through the Toad's stomach so fast? u.u

Either way, once hit Nagato would be in a lot of pain as shown when Sasuke hit Gyuuki with it. He wouldn't be able to think. ._.

He used shinra tensei. It's another option.

Kabuto made Nagato use Shinra tensei. Nagato himself would be in to much pain to use it.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

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Then how come it burned through the Toad's stomach so fast? u.u

Either way, once hit Nagato would be in a lot of pain as shown when Sasuke hit Gyuuki with it. He wouldn't be able to think. ._.



Kabuto made Nagato use Shinra tensei. Nagato himself would be in to much pain to use it.

If you look at the scan you'll actually see that most of the mass of the wall is covered by a window pane.

Doubtful. Nagato's endured his fair share of pain over the years.

 

[Hokage Sharingan Kakashi]

Re: Top 15

Accurate enough, I like it.

 

[Europa]

Re: Top 15

I'd leave it alone; anyone that tries to argue that Amaterasu would defeat Nagato is trying to use Fan-fiction in a debate.

They're defeated by their own scan - not only was Nagato not in control of hinself but allowed the Amaterasu to 'fester' before getting rid if it. Even then it'd barely cleared away his elbow.

At the same time; do you think we can use Madara's crazy new fears to infer a living Nagato is more durable than shown?

It was said Nagato was in too much pain to react, so Kabuto had to step in. That's AkatsukiChurch's answer to why Amaterasu was left on there for so long.

As for the last bit. What do you mean exactly? That A "healthy" Nagato is more durable then another person? Or more durable than what he was shown as an Edo? Because, the latter is without a doubt a yes. Hiruzen destroyed both Tobirama and hashirama's legs with a single paper bomb. But Hanzo couldn't do that to Nagato with dozens of paper bombs strappted to his feet. Living beings>Edo's (Generally) when durability is concerned.

Then how come it burned through the Toad's stomach so fast? u.u

Either way, once hit Nagato would be in a lot of pain as shown when Sasuke hit Gyuuki with it. He wouldn't be able to think. ._.



Kabuto made Nagato use Shinra tensei. Nagato himself would be in to much pain to use it.

And that's how Bee was captured by the Akatsuki and didn't slip away from Sasuke, right?

 

[Bronze]

Re: Top 15

Black zetsu is already created, he doesn't have senjutsu on him. But I see what you're talking about with the black rods. However, it's not like that. Black rods act as chakra receptors, but they wouldn't infuse senjutsu chakra in obito. They receive chakra as a signal, like a controller. The rods would be inefective against that obito.
Madara's plan was to use SM to weaken obito, then take the juubi out, control obito, revivew him, and then madara would take his place.
And though madara was sure he could do it, that's not a proof. A char thinking that doesn't mean he can do it.

False. White Zetsu and all of his siblings were created from Madara's via Yin Yang jutsu [

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]. He can manifest black Zetsu through the black rod itself unless there is evidence that Madara is only limited to one which is contradicted by the fact he created zetsu using his Yin Yang.

Moving on...as you said, the black rod is used to transmit chakra so with Madara having Senjutsu chakra, he can transmit his SM chakra and Zetsu receives it gives Zetsu senjutsu chakra as well to overpower Obito.

Yes Madara's plan was to weaken Obito using the method i explained which is his trump card.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Re: Top 15

It was said Nagato was in too much pain to react, so Kabuto had to step in. That's AkatsukiChurch's answer to why Amaterasu was left on there for so long.

As for the last bit. What do you mean exactly? That A "healthy" Nagato is more durable then another person? Or more durable than what he was shown as an Edo? Because, the latter is without a doubt a yes. Hiruzen destroyed both Tobirama and hashirama's legs with a single paper bomb. But Hanzo couldn't do that to Nagato with dozens of paper bombs strappted to his feet. Living beings>Edo's (Generally) when durability is concerned.

And that's how Bee was captured by the Akatsuki and didn't slip away from Sasuke, right?

But Nagato wasn't even in control, not was he in pain.

I mean how Madara can go from being crushed underneath Hashirama's gate construct one second to smashing through it the next.

 

[Europa]

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But Nagato wasn't even in control, not was he in pain.

I mean how Madara can go from being crushed underneath Hashirama's gate construct one second to smashing through it the next.

Take it up with AC, I don't exactly believe what he is saying.

How would that be some new feat for Nagato or a way to show he is more durable? Did he use a rinnegan technique or something to break out of the gates that I missed..?

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

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Take it up with AC, I don't exactly believe what he is saying.

How would that be some new feat for Nagato or a way to show he is more durable? Did he use a rinnegan technique or something to break out of the gates that I missed..?

No, I mean how Madara's body suddenly became noticeably more powerful after being revived. Surely it'd apply to all Edo Tensei Zombies to some degree.

 

[Europa]

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No, I mean how Madara's body suddenly became noticeably more powerful after being revived. Surely it'd apply to all Edo Tensei Zombies to some degree.

To an extent, it does. A living body seems to be, for the most part superior to the Edo counter parts in everything but when it comes down to chakra. Well, and the regeneration factor...

 

[Untamed]

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Most powerful characters. Excluding the Sage and his immediate family.

In my opinion,

1. Obito Uchiha
2. Kabuto Yakushi
3. Hashirama Senju
4. Madara Uchiha***
5. Naruto Uzumaki
6. Nagato
7. Orochimaru
8. Sasuke Uchiha
9. Itachi Uchiha
10. Minato Namikaze
11. Tobirama Senju
12. Mū
13. 3rd Raikage
14. 2nd Mizukage
15. Killer B


***=EMS Madara. The current Madara has no Dōjutsu, we don't know the extent of his Jutsu, and his Jutsu is too mysterious. I need to see him in action more before passing judgment.

Nagato can stab rods into an Edo body and find where Kabuto is and go to kill him.

Minato and Tobirama can also locate him.

Mu if he is a sensor he can can locate Kabuto and turn invisible and hunt him down.

Orochimaru knows his own power and weaknesses and he could send his snakes after Kabuto and stop him.
Also he can just take his power back from him.

Naruto could use Kurama to locate Kabuto's malicious energy and bombard him with rasenshuriken .

All these characters could beat Kabuto with Edo Tensei if my comments about them are correct.
Itachi can also if he stabs them all with totsuka xD

 

[Wolfus]

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False. White Zetsu and all of his siblings were created from Madara's via Yin Yang jutsu [

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]. Black rod are also Madara's will [

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] and Black Zetsu is Madara's will as well [

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]. He can manifest black Zetsu through the black rod itself unless there is evidence that Madara is only limited to one which is contradicted by the fact he created zetsu using his Yin Yang.

Moving on...as you said, the black rod is used to transmit chakra so with Madara having Senjutsu chakra, he can transmit his SM chakra and Zetsu receives it gives Zetsu senjutsu chakra as well to overpower Obito.

Yes Madara's plan was to weaken Obito using the method i explained which is his trump card.

Black zetsu being madara's will, it's madara's will, not madara's powers, not madara's chakra signature. He was already created by madara, madara put his will in a white zetsu, that created black zetsu.
The black rods are not madara's will, they are a result of rinnegan's power.

As I said, they are receivers, but they wont infuse the chakra to affect obito. And that's because they are just like, receptors, controllers. They would receive madara's chakra signs do control the body .
Unless they can infuse the chakra into the person stabbed, but still, it would require a ridiculuous amount of power to control juubi jin obito. And that's because the only reason senjutsu is his "weakness" is because the black thing cant negate it. But still, he can defend it, and tank it.
Still, it would require too much to control him considering that he has the juubi within him.

 

[Lilt]

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IMO, these are the strongest living incarnations, and with Orochimaru and Kabuto not using Edo Tensei:

1. Jūbito
2. Hashirama
3. Madara
4. Naruto
5. Sasuke

6. Nagato
7. Itachi
8. Kabuto
9. Orochimaru
10. Mū

11. Minato
12. Tobirama
13. Kisame
14. Bee
15. Kakashi

 

[Amaterasuice]

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Counting edo tensei:

1. Obito
2. Kabuto
3. Orochimaru
4. Hashirama
5. Madara
6. Naruto
7. Nagato
8. Sasuke
9. Minato
10. Killer B
11. Itachi
12. 3rd Raikage
13, Yagura (control over his biju)
14. Tobirama
15. Jiraiya

Without it:
1. Obio
2. Hashirama
3. Madara
4. Naruto
5. Nagato
6. Sasuke
7. Minato
8. Kabuto
9. killer B
10. Itachi
11. 3rd raikage
12. Yagura
13. Tobirama
14. Orochimaru
15. Jiraiya

Btw HS, who do you think is stronger? Danzo or Orochimaru without ET?

 

[SeriousDogg]

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Most powerful characters. Excluding the Sage and his immediate family.

In my opinion,

1. Obito Uchiha
2. Kabuto Yakushi
3. Hashirama Senju
4. Madara Uchiha***
5. Naruto Uzumaki
6. Nagato
7. Orochimaru
8. Sasuke Uchiha
9. Itachi Uchiha
10. Minato Namikaze
11. Tobirama Senju
12. Mū
13. 3rd Raikage
14. 2nd Mizukage
15. Killer B


***=EMS Madara. The current Madara has no Dōjutsu, we don't know the extent of his Jutsu, and his Jutsu is too mysterious. I need to see him in action more before passing judgment.

Current Madara>>>Hashirama, and if you restrict Edo Tensei he is also stronger than Kabuto.

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[Lana Del Taka]

Re: Top 15

If Oro has Edo Tensei then shouldn't he be higher up?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Top 10 list of the strongest characters

Hello guys I would like to post my own list with the strongest characters

NOTE: I exclude Juubi Jin Obito, Sage of six paths and Princess Kaguya.

Top 10
1. SM Hashirama(for now fully powered was not beat down by Current Madara)
2. Current Madara(If he regains his double Rinnegan, then he will be number one)
3. BSM Naruto
4. EMS Sasuke/Rinnegan Obito(alone with none Edo Jinchurki and none tailed beasts in Gedo Mazou)
5. Rinnegan Obito/EMS Sasuke
6. DSM Kabuto
7. Minato
8. Six paths of Pein
9. Itachi
10. Tobirama/Muu

Thanks for reading !

Now please share your thoughts

 

[Crossroads]

Re: Top 10 list of the strongest characters

It's not terrible, but it's not great either.. in my humble opinion of course.

Excluding Rikudou Sennin, Edo Tensei, and in order:
1. Obito Uchiha
2. Hashirama Senju
3. Madara Uchiha
4. Naruto Uzumaki
5. Nagato Uzumaki
6. Sasuke Uchiha
7. Kabuto Yakushi
8. Minato Namikaze
9. Itachi Uchiha
10. Killer Bee​

 

[KCMNaruto]

Re: Top 10 list of the strongest characters

It's not terrible but it's not great either.. in my humble opinion of course.

Excluding Rikudou Sennin, Edo Tensei, and in order:
1. Obito Uchiha
2. Hashirama Senju
3. Madara Uchiha
4. Naruto Uzumaki
5. Nagato Uzumaki
6. Sasuke Uchiha
7. Kabuto Yakushi
8. Minato Namikaze
9. Itachi Uchiha
10. Killer Bee​

Good list, but bold part:

By Obito you mean Juubi Jin Obito or Pre Juubi Jin Obito...

If the first then I agree... but if second then he is Fourth or fith depends if EMS Sasuke can beat him. Imo Hashirama, Madara and BSM Naruto beats him.

by Nagato Uzumaki, you mean Healthy Nagato(as Edo tensei Prime body but without immortality), yes ?

If yes then I agree... but if not then... six paths of Pein are powerfull but not that great.

Thanks for your opinion