naruto has more chakra than hashirama ???

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"I can't believe he shared his chakra with the whole alliance" "He's almost got as much chakra as I"

Then he realizes that Naruto is linked with the other Kurama's chakra as well.

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Look at the VIZ translation. Hashirama first says about how Nardo shares chakra with the alliance. That shows he was only talking about one person who is giving out that chakra and compares it to his volume of chakra. Then the under panel, look at what he says. The key word in the next panel is ''No'' which shows Hashirama had retracted his statement because he now is sensing 2 chakra of kyuubi. Yin Yang. Then he never made any comment about it.

So that means he only competes with Nardo shared chakra. Second, you say full kyuubi together. Now that's also wrong because kyuubi was not transmitting all of its chakra but portion of it. Yin kyuubi was connection between the alliance and Minato's chakra.
 

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Look at the VIZ translation. Hashirama first says about how Nardo shares chakra with the alliance. That shows he was only talking about one person who is giving out that chakra and compares it to his volume of chakra. Then the under panel, look at what he says. The key word in the next panel is ''No'' which shows Hashirama had retracted his statement because he now is sensing 2 chakra of kyuubi. Yin Yang. Then he never made any comment about it.

So that means he only competes with Nardo shared chakra. Second, you say full kyuubi together. Now that's also wrong because kyuubi was not transmitting all of its chakra but portion of it. [BY]in kyuubi was connection between the alliance and Minato's chakra.[/B]

What I posted is the VIZ.

If he compared the volume that was being given out, he would have said, "that's almost as much chakra as I've got" or something alone the lines of that. Instead he clearly said "He" as in Naruto, has almost as much chakra as "I" referring to himself. So no, he was referring to Naruto's chakra, not the chakra he handed out. Original Japanese translations say the same thing. Him praising Naruto because he shared his chakra with every Shinobi doesn't mean he was comparing his own chakra to that handed out chakra when he clearly says "He" as in Naruto.

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hash: amazing that he has his chakra (already) passed to everyone of shinobi!
he competes with me in volume of chakra. (=The amount of his chakra rivals that of mine.)
hash: ! nay! this is along with 9bs chakra (=it contains 9bs chakra along with narutos) ...

Him sensing that Kurama's chakra was mixed with Naruto's doesn't change the fact that he sensed the volume and compared it to his own. Kurama transmitting its full chakra doesn't matter, as the chakra being given out wasn't compared to Hashirama's reserves. He sensed Naruto, who was linked with and using the chakra of both Kurama's reserves.

Bold is somewhat wrong.

-Both Kurama's linked their chakras together and Naruto used them both so they can activate the new Kurama cloak, which was bigger and stronger and had both Kurama's chakra inside . So Naruto was using and linked with the chakras of both Kuramas at once.

-Minato used the connection between Naruto, both Kuramas, and the chakra they shared to teleport . Its also stated both Kuramas it what made the medium.
 

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What I posted is the VIZ.
If he compared the volume that was being given out, he would have said, "that's almost as much chakra as I've got" or something alone the lines of that. Instead he clearly said "He" as in Naruto, has almost as much chakra as "I" referring to himself. So no, he was referring to Naruto's chakra, not the chakra he handed out. Original Japanese translations say the same thing. Him praising Naruto because he shared his chakra with every Shinobi doesn't mean he was comparing his own chakra to that handed out chakra when he clearly says "He" as in Naruto.

You're not understanding the context of the text. ''I cant believe he had shared his chakra''. As the bold says, Hashirama has only said the chakra Nardo had shared. So that means, he is talking about kyuubi cloaks because they have Nardo's chakra and portion of Yang kyuubi as well. And yes i know he is talking about Nardo.

You left out the bit where Hashirama says ''No''. So i wanted to post a VIZ for it.


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First of all, there is no proof of the text you have given are indeed the Japanese translation. Its like some guy comes and claims those are what Kishimoto wrote and its sad for those to come and automatically believe it. Post me a link of where you got it from then and prove it.

Him sensing that Kurama's chakra was mixed with Naruto's doesn't change the fact that he sensed the volume and compared it to his own. Kurama transmitting its full chakra doesn't matter, as the chakra being given out wasn't compared to Hashirama's reserves. He sensed Naruto, who was linked with and using the chakra of both Kurama's reserves.

Bold is somewhat wrong.

-Both Kurama's linked their chakras together and Naruto used them both so they can activate the new Kurama cloak, which was bigger and stronger and had both Kurama's chakra inside . So Naruto was using and linked with the chakras of both Kuramas at once.

-Minato used the connection between Naruto, both Kuramas, and the chakra they shared to teleport . Its also stated both Kuramas it what made the medium.

You're contradicting yourself. You first said this:
lol? It was stated that he has more chakra than Naruto and Full Kurama together, obviously Naruto with half Kurama has less.

You first said Hashirama said he had more chakra than full Kurama, and now you're saying it doesn't matter if Kurama didn't transmit full chakra. How can Hashirama say he has more chakra than full Kurama if Kurama didn't give out its full chakra unless Hashirama was lying. Second he says ''No'' in the VIZ which shows retraction as he now suddenly sensed Kyuubi chakra mixed in.

That wasn't my point. Even with Yin kyuubi chakra and a portion of it, Hashirama has never made a comment about it.
 

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You're not understanding the context of the text. ''I cant believe he had shared his chakra''. As the bold says, Hashirama has only said the chakra Nardo had shared. So that means, he is talking about kyuubi cloaks because they have Nardo's chakra and portion of Yang kyuubi as well. And yes i know he is talking about Nardo.

You left out the bit where Hashirama says ''No''. So i wanted to post a VIZ for it.

Uh no. You are the one twisting the context. He's surprised that Naruto was able to share his chakra with the alliance and then blatantly states that he competes with him in volume of chakra. That is only him praising and exclaiming at Naruto's feat. It doesn't mean that he compared it to the volume handed out, especially when he said Naruto himself as almost as much chakra as his own. Not the chakra he handed out, cause the chakra he handed out isn't Naruto, its chakra he handed out.



First of all, there is no proof of the text you have given are indeed the Japanese translation. Its like some guy comes and claims those are what Kishimoto wrote and its sad for those to come and automatically believe it. Post me a link of where you got it from then and prove it.
Its on Narutofourms, I'll get the link later.


You're contradicting yourself. You first said this:

You first said Hashirama said he had more chakra than full Kurama, and now you're saying it doesn't matter if Kurama didn't transmit full chakra. How can Hashirama say he has more chakra than full Kurama if Kurama didn't give out its full chakra unless Hashirama was lying. Second he says ''No'' in the VIZ which shows retraction as he now suddenly sensed Kyuubi chakra mixed in.

Cause he can obviously sense Naruto and Full Kurama's chakra, if he couldn't then he wouldn't have been able to blatantly say "He has almost as much chakra as I" He doesn't need to give out its full chakra to sense its full chakra. Especially since he never compared the transmitted chakra to his own.

"No" is a retraction for it just being Naruto and Yang Kurama, not the volume.

That's like me weighing a jug of water and saying "There is 50 pounds of water in here" and then me looking at the water seeing that its not just water, there's also other liquids like juice inside. Does that mean there wasn't 50 pounds of it? No. It just means that the composition is different from what I thought it was. Same thing applies here.

That wasn't my point. Even with Yin kyuubi chakra and a portion of it, Hashirama has never made a comment about it.

Why would he make a another comment on it when he JUST made one. That they rival him in chakra volume. There is no need to repeat the same thing when his analysis of the volume isn't hinted or stated to be false. The only thing he didn't sense at once is the fact that both Kurama's had their chakra mixed with Naruto's at the time.
 

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Uh no. You are the one twisting the context. He's surprised that Naruto was able to share his chakra with the alliance and then blatantly states that he competes with him in volume of chakra. That is only him praising and exclaiming at Naruto's feat. It doesn't mean that he compared it to the volume handed out, especially when he said Naruto himself as almost as much chakra as his own. Not the chakra he handed out, cause the chakra he handed out isn't Naruto, its chakra he handed out.

''He'' > Nardo
''Shares'' > the kyuubi cloak given to the alliance
''Chakra'' > the chakra Nardo had shared with the alliance

He is surprised that Nardo has that much chakra to share with the alliance and compares it to his. T Bogard made something about this interesting. Hashirama's text can be interpreted that Hashirama can also share his chakra like Nardo hence why he said he competes in chakra with him. The context is clearly agreeing with me.


Its on Narutofourms, I'll get the link later.

Lol saying a website of clowns as evidence that its better than the VIZ company isn't working here.

Cause he can obviously sense Naruto and Full Kurama's chakra, if he couldn't then he wouldn't have been able to blatantly say "He has almost as much chakra as I" He doesn't need to give out its full chakra to sense its full chakra. Especially since he never compared the transmitted chakra to his own.

"No" is a retraction for it just being Naruto and Yang Kurama, not the volume.

That's like me weighing a jug of water and saying "There is 50 pounds of water in here" and then me looking at the water seeing that its not just water, there's also other liquids like juice inside. Does that mean there wasn't 50 pounds of it? No. It just means that the composition is different from what I thought it was. Same thing applies here.

Again, Kyuubi is not giving Nardo nor Minato its full chakra. The chakra they receive is a portion depending on the situation.

Both Nardo and Minato before pumping fist were using their kyuubi chakra and Hashirama was right next to them. So after this whole time, Hashirama had just sensed 2 of the kyuubi chakra:|. It clearly makes no sense. So the only thing we can agree on and the context agrees is the fact that Hashirama was only talking about the chakra shared. Hence why he retract it.

Why would he make a another comment on it when he JUST made one. That they rival him in chakra volume. There is no need to repeat the same thing when his analysis of the volume isn't hinted or stated to be false. The only thing he didn't sense at once is the fact that both Kurama's had their chakra mixed with Naruto's at the time.

Except he only said the chakra shared with the alliance competes with his. Not to mention Kyuubi doesn't gives its full chakra to both of them.

Also i want scan of Hashirama being stated to be able to sense full amount of chakra because they isn't any.
 

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''He'' > Nardo
''Shares'' > the kyuubi cloak given to the alliance
''Chakra'' > the chakra Nardo had shared with the alliance

He is surprised that Nardo has that much chakra to share with the alliance and compares it to his. T Bogard made something about this interesting. Hashirama's text can be interpreted that Hashirama can also share his chakra like Nardo hence why he said he competes in chakra with him. The context is clearly agreeing with me.


Bold1 is false going by what the manga clearly says. Naruto having almost as much chakra as him means that Naruto has as much chakra as him, it's as simple as that. Your interpretation of him being surprised that Naruto can share that much chakra and comparing the shared amount to his own makes zero sense considering he never said that.

Bold2 is clearly false. Hashirama mentioned volume/size/amount of Naruto's chakra in his words, how does that have to do with Hashirama being able to share chakra as well? lmao, nothing.



Lol saying a website of clowns as evidence that its better than the VIZ company isn't working here.

Its a Japanese translator. Whether you want to believe it or not doesn't change the fact that this guy is a native


Again, Kyuubi is not giving Nardo nor Minato its full chakra. The chakra they receive is a portion depending on the situation.
That is for entering Bijuu Mode, both Kuramas straight up linked their own chakras with Naruto and Hashirama sensed the total volume and compared it to his own.

Both Nardo and Minato before pumping fist were using their kyuubi chakra and Hashirama was right next to them. So after this whole time, Hashirama had just sensed 2 of the kyuubi chakra:|. It clearly makes no sense. So the only thing we can agree on and the context agrees is the fact that Hashirama was only talking about the chakra shared. Hence why he retract it.
-Hashirama wasn't right next to them, do you see Hashirama next to them in the panel he's shown in? Clearly not.

-The rest of your point is irrelevant as it relied on him being right next to them even though that is clearly false.




Except he only said the chakra shared with the alliance competes with his. Not to mention Kyuubi doesn't gives its full chakra to both of them.

Also i want scan of Hashirama being stated to be able to sense full amount of chakra because they isn't any.

Naruto has almost as much chakra as I=/=The amount of chakra Naruto shared with the alliance is almost as much as my own.

You already have a scan of him clearly sensing Naruto's chakra, which proves he's a sensor, and sensors can sense chakra, meaning they can sense the amount they have in their reserves. "Naruto has almost as much chakra as I" already proves he sensed Naruto's chakra capacity and compared it to his own, and this is while he was linked with both Kuramas.
 

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"He's got almost as much chakra as I!"

hashirama flat out said "He", not "the distributed chakra". anyone saying that hashirama is not talking about naruto is just wrong.

and this is when minato and the yin kyuubi fused their chakras with naruto and yang kurama.

hashiramas reserves=>BM naruto+BM minato
 

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"He's got almost as much chakra as I!"

hashirama flat out said "He", not "the distributed chakra". anyone saying that hashirama is not talking about naruto is just wrong.

and this is when minato and the yin kyuubi fused their chakras with naruto and yang kurama.

hashiramas reserves=>BM naruto+BM minato

T Bogard and Nameless have destroyed your thread as i have destroyed KidGamer points. No use in being stubborn knowing you have lost.
 
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