BSM is not BM with better sensor. BSM>BM

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I read and just like when I skimmed it the first time it's still wrong. Sm does not multiply/amplify chakra it increases it by the amount of senjutsu you can hold. Naruto can still only hold the same amount of senjutsu while in bm. If sm multiplied/amplified chakra then the senjutsu would have to go through kurama also giving him senjutsu which it does not even though they are mixing. BASICALLY saying bsm is a multiplied version of bm is like saying kurama is going sage mode. It's like mixing oil in water they are in the same count aimed but they are not fusing.
 

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For you people asking, yeah I made this before. Why? Becausae people still insist on saying otherwise without a single evidence or argument, just opinions. So, yeah, I did again, I don't like it, but I felt kind of "pushed" to do so. Sorry, but I had no choice.
Posting it again won't change that. Posting it a hundred times wouldn't change that, there are always going to be people who disagree with you. Which is why this thread will most likely get deleted in a few minutes.​
 

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You're sounding butthurt
No, you're mistaken.


I read and just like when I skimmed it the first time it's still wrong. Sm does not multiply/amplify chakra it increases it by the amount of senjutsu you can hold. Naruto can still only hold the same amount of senjutsu while in bm. If sm multiplied/amplified chakra then the senjutsu would have to go through kurama also giving him senjutsu which it does not even though they are mixing. BASICALLY saying bsm is a multiplied version of bm is like saying kurama is going sage mode. It's like mixing oil in water they are in the same count aimed but they are not fusing.
Learn to read. I already disprove that in the post.You're wrong. That doesn't make a difference. If you had read the "wall of text", you'd understand. When naruto enters SM in BM, naruto is in sync with all of kurama's chakra. BM acts like a base form to BSM. Naruto gathers natural energy to make the balance with all that chakra, his plus kurama's.
With this explained, and considering the multiplier effect of the SM:
Naruto BSM/ Naruto BM= Naruto SM/ Naruto base form= X. X is the constant of multiplication of the SM, the multiplying factor of the SM.
So you multiply by X thr atributes of the base form, in this case, naruto BM is a base form to BSM.
 

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I read and just like when I skimmed it the first time it's still wrong. Sm does not multiply/amplify chakra it increases it by the amount of senjutsu you can hold. Naruto can still only hold the same amount of senjutsu while in bm. If sm multiplied/amplified chakra then the senjutsu would have to go through kurama also giving him senjutsu which it does not even though they are mixing. BASICALLY saying bsm is a multiplied version of bm is like saying kurama is going sage mode. It's like mixing oil in water they are in the same count aimed but they are not fusing.
please read under sage tail beast mode:
 

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No, you're mistaken.




Learn to read. I already disprove that in the post.You're wrong. That doesn't make a difference. If you had read the "wall of text", you'd understand. When naruto enters SM in BM, naruto is in sync with all of kurama's chakra. BM acts like a base form to BSM. Naruto gathers natural energy to make the balance with all that chakra, his plus kurama's.
With this explained, and considering the multiplier effect of the SM:
Naruto BSM/ Naruto BM= Naruto SM/ Naruto base form= X. X is the constant of multiplication of the SM, the multiplying factor of the SM.
So you multiply by X thr atributes of the base form, in this case, naruto BM is a base form to BSM.
You literally posted the same thing as last time even after I gave evidence your theory is flawed. SM does NOT multiply power it absorbs senjutsu until the user stores an amount he can hold. If it multiplied it would actually MULTIPLY narutos chakra store. Bm does not increase narutos chakra store it fills his body with kuramas chakra more than naruto can hold which is why it is fleeing from his body like an aura. Here's an example you have a pool and a water hose, the pool is already half full and the hose(kurama) fills the pool with more water than the pool can hold and it moves away from the pool. The original amount it can hold is still the same. I read your post and stopped reading when you assumed sm amplifies chakra.
 

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See? I disproved that post of his in the thread, and yet... Sigh, this is pointless.
You disproved NOTHING I continue to debunk you and you do not retort. Sm does not multiply or amplify narutos chakra it has no effect on narutos own chakra it goes into his body and he can use his chakra to control it the wiki says it enhances narutos abilities that in no context means the same thing as multiply.
 

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You literally posted the same thing as last time even after I gave evidence your theory is flawed. SM does NOT multiply power it absorbs senjutsu until the user stores an amount he can hold. If it multiplied it would actually MULTIPLY narutos chakra store. Bm does not increase narutos chakra store it fills his body with kuramas chakra more than naruto can hold which is why it is fleeing from his body like an aura. Here's an example you have a pool and a water hose, the pool is already half full and the hose(kurama) fills the pool with more water than the pool can hold and it moves away from the pool. The original amount it can hold is still the same. I read your post and stopped reading when you assumed sm amplifies chakra.
And I already disproved this. You just don't understand.
First, SM is a multiplier, as I explained in the thread. Through absorbing natural energy and balancing that energy within your chakra system, your attributes increase in proportions.

Second- With this explained, let's go again. While in BM, naruto syncs with kurama, and all of kurama's chakra joins within naruto's chakra system, in an active form, whereas while naruto is in base form, kurama's chakra is "hidden", passive in the chakra system.

So, in base form, naruto has to balance natural energy only with his own chakra.

Now, while in BM, naruto will have to gather natural energy and balance it with all of his and kurama's chakra, as now, kurama's chakra isa active, flowing in the system, as they are linked.

That's why BM will work as a base for BSM, so yeah, the multiplier is applied.

And by the way, the guy above posted a link where it's written that the attributes are amplified.

The only thing flawed is your post.

You disproved NOTHING I continue to debunk you and you do not retort. Sm does not multiply or amplify narutos chakra it has no effect on narutos own chakra it goes into his body and he can use his chakra to control it the wiki says it enhances narutos abilities that in no context means the same thing as multiply.
Yeah, I debunked you.
And this

This disproves you as well.
 

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You disproved NOTHING I continue to debunk you and you do not retort. Sm does not multiply or amplify narutos chakra it has no effect on narutos own chakra it goes into his body and he can use his chakra to control it the wiki says it enhances narutos abilities that in no context means the same thing as multiply.
dude read you havent debunked anything you post absurd analogies with nothing to back them up more than your assumptions.
 

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No it's not. Sm body is filled with nature energy he applies it to his own chakra not actually increasing his own store but senjutsu is much stronger than normal chakra.
In order to produce Senjutsu chakra user has to absorb right amount of natural enrgy. Normal chakra cantains of physical and spiritual power, with Senjutsu chakra we have thrid element - natural energy. That third element is not wasted, that energy dont just disappear.

Base Narutos chakra pool:
(1111) + (2222)

SM Narutos chakra pool:
(1111) + (2222) + (3333)
 
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