Can BSM Naruto defeat Obito? (not jubito)

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We all know bijuu mode naruto wont last much against obito but can BSM so the trick?
 

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Prime Rinnegan obito no.

MS obito, debatebale.
 

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Which Obito? Ms obito? Rinnegan pre war obito?

I believe Bsm has his chances as seeing with his sensing he should capable of anticipating when obito is about to warp him.
 

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It will be a stalemate until one of them runs out of chakra
 

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Nope. MS, Akatsuki Obito beats everyone 1v1.
 
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In a one on one I give it to obito. Naruto was only able to best him with the help of Kakashi's MS. High difficulty win for MS Obito. Rinnegan Obito win as well. Kamui is just too strong in my opinion.
 

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Without kakashi to help naruto, he won't have a tiny chance.
 

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Only version of Obito that is superior is the jinchuriki one.. otherwise Obito is inferior to Naruto.
 

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no just no.

Naruto was almost killed 3+ times by masked man, with just speed,reflexes and kamui

Any obito> Naruto
 

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1 on 1, naruto doesn't stand a chance.

Actually, that's not true.
Naruto, in BM, had great speed feats, he was fast enough to keep up with rinnegan obito. In BSM, his speed is even greater. Not only that, but his sensory skills are improved, he can sense chakra perfectly, and can sense evil and danger. He can sense when obito is comming, and he has the speed and the reaction to counter obito.
Plus, he can use KCM, SM, or even BM clones to back him up. All clones with sensory skills, and naruto in BSM, fighting against obito, could get a hit.
 

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obito already showed them one v one they cant touch him all bsm naruto has is an increase in power in jutsu and greater reflexes he still can hit what he cant touch...its just a bad matchup for naruto, hell its a bad match up for most shinobi...sure bsm naruto has a lot of explosive power but that would all be just for show against obito
 

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Nope. BSM would lose to any form of Obito IMO. He loses high diff though.
 

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obito already showed them one v one they cant touch him all bsm naruto has is an increase in power in jutsu and greater reflexes he still can hit what he cant touch...its just a bad matchup for naruto, hell its a bad match up for most shinobi...sure bsm naruto has a lot of explosive power but that would all be just for show against obito

No.
We all know how SM works:
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This is very important: after entering SM, the atributes of the user get a serious power up(strength, durability, speed, etc)

Now, let's understand what happens in BSM. Naruto is in BM, and then, he enters sage mode. Kurama's chackra can sync perfectly with senjutsu chakra. Naruto enters BSM.
In this situation, it's easy to see that, for BSM, Naruto BM acts as a base form. What does this mean? It means that BSM is an amplified version of the BM, all the atributes were increased, as it is how the SM works.

SM was portrayed as a multiplier, increasing the user's atributes in proportions. In this case:

Naruto BSM/ Naruto BM= Naruto SM/ Naruto base form= X. X is the constant of multiplication of the SM, the multiplying factor of the SM.
So you multiply by X thr atributes of the base form, in this case, naruto BM is a base form to BSM.

As kurama's chakra managed to sync perfectly with the SM, being in BM doesn't prevent the multiplying factor to be applied.

Another thing people say is: "Ah, but kurama comes from juubi, so it's natural energy, so it doesn't increase the power". That's a mistake. The bijuu chakras clearly changed from when they were the juubi, and from when they were natural energy. Bijuu chakra=/= natural energy and =/= senjutsu chakra.
The proof is that naruto needed to enter SM to affect obito, even while in KCM and BM. And even juugo's sage chakra from his sage transformation, that is an incomplete SM, could do it. So, kurama's chakra is very different from senjutsu chakra and from natural energy.

That means that the multiplier is still aplied.

So, BSM is much more faster, stronger, powerfull, with better reflexes and improved sensor skills.
 

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1 on 1, naruto doesn't stand a chance.

Its the other way actually, 1 vs 1 Obito doesn't stand a chance. Only way he stands a chance is if he has his lil edo army with him. Though Naruto can then call on shinobi from his side to help out. So Naruto in the end is superior.

Offense : Naruto > Obito

Defense: Naruot > Obito

Chakra : Naruto > Obito

pure brute power : Naruot > Obito

bigger arsenal : Naruto > Obito.

kind of superior in every single category.
 

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BSM naruto can take MS Obito.

His SM sensing is better than KM and KM Naruto was able to sense Obito who was attempting to warp him. ----->

obito won't warp BSM Naruto or his Bunshin.Obito becomes tangible to grab Naruto then he gets Frog punched in da noggin.

Push comes to shove shunshin blitz with SM sensing.
 

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Actually, that's not true.
Naruto, in BM, had great speed feats, he was fast enough to keep up with rinnegan obito. In BSM, his speed is even greater. Not only that, but his sensory skills are improved, he can sense chakra perfectly, and can sense evil and danger. He can sense when obito is comming, and he has the speed and the reaction to counter obito.
Plus, he can use KCM, SM, or even BM clones to back him up. All clones with sensory skills, and naruto in BSM, fighting against obito, could get a hit.

its obvious u would like everyone to believe naruto could win but that aint happening...and using clones to help u say??? if naruto thought clones would help him beat obito then he would have been used them no amount of clones are going to beat obito...and sm doesnt increase speed it increases perception making your reflexes greater and bm naruto was already the fastest shinobi in history next to minato but yet he still couldnt hit obito on his own and now he has that increased reflexes still wont be able to hit obito...and u saying naruto can sense evil is irrelevant because naruto could already do that in kcm earlier in the war if sensing obito was possible then naruto would have done that along time ago...and kamui is a s/t jutsu he erases his existence completely(which is just more like going to the other dimension but to everyone else he is gone) and not only can he not be sensed but when he has warped back to reality it is instant and no amount of reflexes would help naruto avoid being warped right at his face...this is a bad match up for naruto and for most shinobi and naruto has all this explosive power and obito has none, which is a testament to skill over jutsu
 

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no just no.

Naruto was almost killed 3+ times by masked man, with just speed,reflexes and kamui

Any obito> Naruto

So, your saying Chuunin Obito> BSM Naruto? Obito is cool and all, but now its just getting dumb
 
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