Misconception: "raikage would have won"

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They are spikes, not shields. They would have pierced through his leg, but the rest of his leg would just continue accelerating downwards to crush Sasuke.
 

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I've noticed something. All the manga pages you're showing as "feats" are all a lot further down the story than when he fought Raikage. Sasuke has EMS in those pages you showed so its likely that his ability to use Enton just improved and that he is able to condense the flames now.

Sasuke at that point however couldn't condense the Enton flames and the Raikage would have won that fight. U_U
 

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I still can't believe the raikage was as reckless as to loose an arm, like wtf? He is a ninja with so much battle experience, so powerful and fast yet in that one single chapter all that went to shit. The consistency in his character is just another example of how Kishi sometimes gets lazy, and weakens characters like the Raikage.

the raikage wasnt weakened by kishi he went up against an uchiha with ms and a particular tech that could have killed most the raikage was bold and prideful, and durable enough to stop the spread of amaterasu and sever his won arm most shinobi would have died thats another testament to how tough the raikage are..i dnt think that horizontal chop would have killed sasuke but both would have been injured like gaara said...the raikage would have lost a leg and sasuke would have been severely injured...
 

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Of course he would have been hit by the spikes, but that doesn't mean they would have stopped him. You're making it seem like this 300 pound man is going to stop just because of a few spikes that barely hold any substance. He likely would have lost his leg, but the sheer weight and power behind him would have demolished Sasuke. Take note that as he's preforming this, even Karin is scared for Sasuke because the dude's chakra is on par with that of a bijuu. Imagine the Gyuki's chakra(As she recently fought Killer Bee and knows his chakra) in a dense form the size of Raikage about to drop on Sasuke in a centralized point. Yeah...


Now I'm going to Lol at you even more. Notice when Gaara puts his sand in that centimeter gap, the enton can't even pierce that sand... These niggas thinking they found breakthroughs :| Dude's enton was flattened by sand...
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Sasuke already got scraped by Bee, now you want to see Sasuke get scraped by Ay too...?

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im not with the op or anything but i felt like u tried to hate on sasuke by saying...(enton cant even pierce that sand) when u knw full well gaara has the ultimate defence...and u cant say that the raikage would have killed sasuke because u dnt knw that since it never happened one cant assume or force their opinions at someone because u think that person is wrong...as far as im concerned they both would have injured themselves further like gaara said...and had cee not been right their the raikage would have bleed out to death so, and the raikage caught sasuke off guard with that anyway because just before that sasuke had that eye closed holding it in pain...and whose to say sasuke wouldnt go ahead and use his complete susano like he did afterwards if that exchange wasnt something enton could handle??? sasuke had a goal so why risk doing something that wouldnt work and costing him his life thus failing to achieve that goal of his???
 

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if the flames aren't solid, how did they pierce the juubi clone? can flame pierce?

i have evidence to suggest enton is solid. where is yours?

whats the point of making the spikes if they are no different? and do you have feats of air behaving like a solid? i have feats of enton behaving like a solid

wouldn't the juubi clone have been set ablaze like kidomaru's web? clearly sasuke can make it solid. and making solid point has no purpose if it is the exact same as a regular flame. its really just a waste of energy

You're really jumping the gun with all this talk of evidence and proof. This is an assumption based upon your own interpretation of the manga.

As for flames piercing and cutting, well yes they can. I direct your attention to the gas axe:
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watch your step when you get up kids because I'm about to drop some knowledge ... come at me
 

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im not with the op or anything but i felt like u tried to hate on sasuke by saying...(enton cant even pierce that sand) when u knw full well gaara has the ultimate defence...and u cant say that the raikage would have killed sasuke because u dnt knw that since it never happened one cant assume or force their opinions at someone because u think that person is wrong...as far as im concerned they both would have injured themselves further like gaara said...and had cee not been right their the raikage would have bleed out to death so, and the raikage caught sasuke off guard with that anyway because just before that sasuke had that eye closed holding it in pain...and whose to say sasuke wouldnt go ahead and use his complete susano like he did afterwards if that exchange wasnt something enton could handle??? sasuke had a goal so why risk doing something that wouldnt work and costing him his life thus failing to achieve that goal of his???

I don't even... You basically scolded me for using assumptions, then used an entire wall of text of assumptions. "Since it never happened one cant assume or force their opinions at someone because u think that person is wrong..." Then proceed to say, "had cee not been right their the raikage would have bleed out to death so..." then, "whose to say sasuke wouldnt go ahead and use his complete susano like he did afterwards if that exchange wasnt something enton could handle???" even more, "sasuke had a goal so why risk doing something that wouldnt work and costing him his life thus failing to achieve that goal of his???". Lol...
 

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Raikage was the deserving winner but Sasuke was meant to be alive after the Kage summit so.... PNJ
 

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I don't even... You basically scolded me for using assumptions, then used an entire wall of text of assumptions. "Since it never happened one cant assume or force their opinions at someone because u think that person is wrong..." Then proceed to say, "had cee not been right their the raikage would have bleed out to death so..." then, "whose to say sasuke wouldnt go ahead and use his complete susano like he did afterwards if that exchange wasnt something enton could handle???" even more, "sasuke had a goal so why risk doing something that wouldnt work and costing him his life thus failing to achieve that goal of his???". Lol...

i did that so u would understand what u was doing
 

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I don't even... You basically scolded me for using assumptions, then used an entire wall of text of assumptions. "Since it never happened one cant assume or force their opinions at someone because u think that person is wrong..." Then proceed to say, "had cee not been right their the raikage would have bleed out to death so..." then, "whose to say sasuke wouldnt go ahead and use his complete susano like he did afterwards if that exchange wasnt something enton could handle???" even more, "sasuke had a goal so why risk doing something that wouldnt work and costing him his life thus failing to achieve that goal of his???". Lol...

i did that so u would understand what u was doing
 

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Sasukes enton never becomes "solid" it just covers his susanoo sword which is made from chakra.
The raikage would have indeed won that match albeit at the cost of his life as a shinobi indefinitely if he were to manage to stave off the flames that would engulf this legs after stomping sasuke.
 

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With or without flames, Raikage would not have killed Sasuke. He would have moderately damaged him at best. Ay's strongest technique accomplished nothing but a cracked ribcage and an unhurt Sasuke. Ay's *****slap to the face cost Ay his arm while Sasuke didn't even so much as lose a tooth or get his face pounded in. The spikes would have impaled and killed Ay while burning him from the inside. Even Gaara's sand stopped his drop kick.
 

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i debunked your 'evidence', enton cut through the juubi cause of the heat , sasuke countered kidomaro web with enton cause kidomaro webs cant be cut by swords, that itself is proof that enton swords arent comparable to solid susanoo swords

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enton isnt solid

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If enton wasnt solid then it couldnt be projected by a Bow string :| also
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Raikage would've died. Sasuke would've tanked his leg drop like he did with his arm chop
 

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That Enton would have pierced right throught the Raikage and killed him while Sasuke's Susano'o would have tanked his attack. Gaara saved his ass. Mangekyō Sharingan state Sasuke beats Ē.​
 

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Who cares about it now? We already know Sasuke stomps Raikage anytime he wants currently. Sasuke fans grasping at straws like always
 

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I see this thread has already been soloed. They were susano arrows covered by enton like or not. Aside from those called "evidence" of yours which are all instances where Sasuke covered his susano with enton, enton has never displayed solidity.
 

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I see this thread has already been soloed. They were susano arrows covered by enton like or not. Aside from those called "evidence" of yours which are all instances where Sasuke covered his susano with enton, enton has never displayed solidity.

really? looks like flames to me

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you're proof? wouldn't the arrow be the color of susanoo where the flames don't cover? clearly there is nothing there because its pure flame
 
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