Anybody still think obito was the better final villain?

[AlphaScythian]

Obito was always the villain since the beginning of the manga, even if behind the scenes. So far no1 trumps him, cuz all the joy of we got from bad guys comes from him. Madara is just a mad guy who was lucky some1 brought him back.

 

[Bronze]

First of all, Obito was not villain, he was antagonist.

Second, if he were to be a villain, he wouldn't be perfect final villain for reasons:

-Lacks the bloodlust
-Lacks the actual impact on the story

 

[AlphaScythian]

First of all, Obito was not villain, he was antagonist.

Second, if he were to be a villain, he wouldn't be perfect final villain for reasons:

-Lacks the bloodlust
-Lacks the actual impact on the story

He has the biggest impact on the story.

 

[Flawž]

He has the biggest impact on the story.

dont listen to anything he says.

 

[Bronze]

He has the biggest impact on the story.

Incorrect. Madara set up everything, Obito had just done all of them by the orders of his teacher. Madara is the one who has most impact on the story:

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[AlphaScythian]

Incorrect. Madara set up everything, Obito had just done all of them by the orders of his teacher. Madara is the one who has most impact on the story:

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Incorrect. Obito never planned on bringing back madara. Obito done what any1 smart would do, he used madara's knowledge for his own benefit. From then on he was behind it all not under madara's orders but his own will.

 

[Bronze]

Incorrect. Obito never planned on bringing back madara. Obito done what any1 smart would do, he used madara's knowledge for his own benefit. From then on he was behind it all not under madara's orders but his own will.

This doesn't change the fact Obito was brainwashed and used by Madara and look what he ended up. Not to mention Black Zetsu stated Obito was not following Madara's orders. So Madara had predicted Obito would betray him later.

However we know Madara had set up everything for Obito to use later.

 

[Flawž]

This doesn't change the fact Obito was brainwashed and used by Madara and look what he ended up. Not to mention Black Zetsu stated Obito was not following Madara's orders. So Madara had predicted Obito would betray him later.

However we know Madara had set up everything for Obito to use later.

Madara is a fail villain. If kabuto hadn't brought him back, he would of been dead. Lol

 

[AGoodBoy]

No. obito sucked like ****. I'm so glad he's out. Can't wait till he's completely out of this manga. The last 2 chapters were the best in a long time and they had less and less obito. Coincidence? I think not.

 

[Bronze]

Madara is a fail villain. If kabuto hadn't brought him back, he would of been dead. Lol

Still mad as ever that Obito has not ended up being final villainLol.

 

[AlphaScythian]

This doesn't change the fact Obito was brainwashed and used by Madara and look what he ended up. Not to mention Black Zetsu stated Obito was not following Madara's orders. So Madara had predicted Obito would betray him later.

However we know Madara had set up everything for Obito to use later.

Obito brainwashed? Madara just played on uchiha insane DNA. And how brainwashed was he if didnt follow the orders?
Madara has set up nothing, it was pure luck for him that kabuto brought him back. Madara predicted? Or maybe he knew he didnt do the job well with whole brainwashing? In the end he couldnt overpower half dead obito with his will only when obito was in near vegetable state from biju extraction that it was possible.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Still mad as ever that Obito has not ended up being final villainLol.

Ignore the obito fans. They're just sad they can no longer hear about Rin.

*thanks btw

 

[Bronze]

Obito brainwashed? Madara just played on uchiha insane DNA. And how brainwashed was he if didnt follow the orders?
Madara has set up nothing, it was pure luck for him that kabuto brought him back. Madara predicted? Or maybe he knew he didnt do the job well with whole brainwashing? In the end he couldnt overpower half dead obito with his will only when obito was in near vegetable state from biju extraction that it was possible.

-The Tsukuyomi eye plan
-Gedo Mazo
-Hashirama's living clone
-The Zetsu army
-Obito's seeing Rin's death
-Teaching the youngster of history and making him stronger
-Told him to capture the 9 Bijuu

Are we going to argue with the fact all of this was set up by Madara. Not to mention he at least thought Obito would betray him hence why he created black Zetsu to kill Obito if that were to happen which we can see the telepathic communication between them. It is all Madara's predictions of the future.

What did Obito do for the plan? He put it in motion thanks to the set ups Madara left for him.

The only thing he was lucky at is Kabuto reviving him which was not his expectations. Other than that, your whole post is bias.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Personally (Obito being my 2nd favourite) I think he would've been the perfect final villain.

Of course that's not to say we shouldn't have Madara. I think everything Madara is doing currently should happen, with the shirtlessness, beating Hashirama and hunting Bijuu (Killer Bee & Naruto) that sh*ts great. You need both the emotional, psychological resolution AND the badass fighting show-off resolution. I just think Madara should've had his turn before Obito. I've gone through this all before and why Obito is so much more connected to Naruto and the plot's story since the beginning but it's too late to whinge about that now.

When Obito went into the Kamui dimension with Kakashi, Madara should've pinned and defeated Hashirama there and then, about 10 chapters later it looks like Kakashi will defeat Obito and Madara gets fairly defeated looking like things are going to wrap up when surprisingly Obito arrives at the end plot twist holding Kakashi's corpse- looking remorseful and showing him to Naruto. They defeat him like they did in the actual manga and Sasuke assassinates him, creating the final arc.

 

[AlphaScythian]

-The Tsukuyomi eye plan
-Gedo Mazo
-Hashirama's living clone
-The Zetsu army
-Obito's seeing Rin's death
-Teaching the youngster of history and making him stronger
-Told him to capture the 9 Bijuu

The plan was to gather all bijus into gedo then revive madara with nagato. Obito attacked konoha, formed akatsuki, wiped uchiha(partially) zetsu army was improvisation on obito's part as the war itself. As i said madara gave him the knowledge rest was obito doing.

Are we going to argue with the fact all of this was set up by Madara. Not to mention he at least thought Obito would betray him hence why he created black Zetsu to kill Obito if that were to happen which we can see the telepathic communication between them. It is all Madara's predictions of the future.

Why are ou arguing the fact that madara has set up to die and no1 was going to bring him back and black zetsu coulnt force obito.

What did Obito do for the plan? He put it in motion thanks to the set ups Madara left for him.
The only thing he was lucky at is Kabuto reviving him which was not his expectations. Other than that, your whole post is bias.

Bias on you. Great madaras planning and predictions were left on mercy off kabuto to revive him. Obito took the general plan and adapted it to his own agenda, he was totally shitting on madara, the plan essentially is power any1 wouldnt mind be a god of NV.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Are we going to argue with the fact all of this was set up by Madara. Not to mention he at least thought Obito would betray him hence why he created black Zetsu to kill Obito if that were to happen which we can see the telepathic communication between them. It is all Madara's predictions of the future.

The only thing he was lucky at is Kabuto reviving him which was not his expectations. Other than that, your whole post is bias.

This was only added after Madara became the final villain as justification. The manga could've easily done the same to Obito and the same arguments can be made for Obito as the final villain, I don't get why people still kick up a scene about this, it happened already resolve your differences people!

Personally i'm disappointed I admit but hey, it's not my manga. Obito got his turn and now it's Madara's, just wish they'd gone the other way round. Interested to see where it's taken.