Anybody still think obito was the better final villain?

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Never thought of Obito as a great villain anyways , but Madara isn't that better either , who knows what he'll do next , I'm going with Pain & Tobi .
this^. pain and tobi right before his mask broke where better villains
 

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but that's the point all we've seen is lame fights between opponents who naruto just befriends towards the end this time we're getting a gritty fight where naruto is going to be forced to brutally murder madara instead of deciding to join a book club with him once they cry over the shinobi way

I see your one of those people that just like fights. Every heard the saying theirs more then one way to skin a cat.
 

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Nah, with Madara I don't see any rin flashbacks, no boring talks to the people. Madara getting straight to business
 

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Madara beating up SM Naruto, Sai, weakened Hashi and fodders makes him a better villain?

Let's not forget how Obito wrecked Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, Naruto, Sasuke and all the fodders.

obito wrecked a wood clone hashirama, and got wrecked once everyone figured out he can only be hit with senjutsu

madara freaking ate hashirama grew 3 feet and is now a batshit crazy juggernaut

how is that not badass
 

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Tobi was the all time greatest villain this manga has seen.

Madara is a joke to tobi.
 

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I see your one of those people that just like fights. Every heard the saying theirs more then one way to skin a cat.

Do you really think people read shonen mangas for the dialogue really? and we've had the exact thing every arc its about time there was change
 

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In terms of the war arc, madara is a much better villian. Never really liked obito because of a villain and kishimoto ruined his character. Tobi was awesome though.
 

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Do you really think people read shonen mangas for the dialogue really? and we've had the exact thing every arc its about time there was change

well to each there own. I like how all the arc have ended. its going to be the same with this one two. you know how I know that's naruto MO bro
 

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In terms of the war arc, madara is a much better villian. Never really liked obito because of a villain and kishimoto ruined his character. Tobi was awesome though.

yeah tobi was awesome then kishi decided to make some guy who complains about friendzones so all the neckbears would buy obito merch
 

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well to each there own. I like how all the arc have ended. its going to be the same with this one two. you know how I know that's naruto MO bro

I just reread what I wrote sorry if I came off a bit rude B)

but I don't think kishi gives naruto the kill since naruto symbolizes all that good stuff but I think he'll give it to sasuke since sasukes uchiha and is not all that good
 

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obito wrecked a wood clone hashirama, and got wrecked once everyone figured out he can only be hit with senjutsu


Actually, he fodderized all the edo kages, and once it was figured out he is vulnerable to Senjutsu, it still took a lot of chapters and several attempts by Naruto and everyone else helping him to bring Obito down...
 

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Obito is a joke.
 
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I just reread what I wrote sorry if I came off a bit rude B)

but I don't think kishi gives naruto the kill since naruto symbolizes all that good stuff but I think he'll give it to sasuke since sasukes uchiha and is not all that good

I do have to agree if anyone does kill him its sasuke. but I like how naruto has done things up ill now.
 

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Actually, he fodderized all the edo kages, and once it was figured out he is vulnerable to Senjutsu, it still took a lot of chapters and several attempts by Naruto and everyone else helping him to bring Obito down...

yeah such a big feat considering he has an anti edo jutsu and several chapter is like 30 seconds in anime
 

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I do have to agree if anyone does kill him its sasuke. but I like how naruto has done things up ill now.

I like it just change was needed it was starting to feel like a cheesy childrens cartoon for a moment, madaras fight is basically going to be the fight that everyone remembers years from now in my opinion
 

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There is nearly no villains but anti-villains in NARUTO as an antagonist...

NOW,Keeping in mind that OBITO was TOBI,so yes. Obito shits on Madara as a anti-villain,as he is the only anti-villain who falls in all 3 major type- 1,2,3,of anti-villain's definition. And he is followed by PAIN/NAGATO.

AS FOR VILLAIN,I'LL SAY HIDAN & ORO(As long as his reasons are not revealed,to convert him into anti-villain)TAKE THE CROWN.

So yeah,madara is bad@ass,but no where near tobi or pain/nagato.
 

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He was. He has more of a connection to the main characters and did more shit.

IMO, he was a great villain (better than Madara) until he got TNJ'd, even after his mask broke (though I won't deny that he was much better with the mask on and that the whole Rin thing is lame (but he said it himself, Rin wasn't the only reason he did what he did)).

Basically, Tobi > Obito pre-TNJ > Madara > Obito post-TNJ as a villain.
 
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I prefer Obito to Madara by a lot. But, I'll be impartial.

...the problem is that Obito should have been the Final Villain and Madara pales in comparison. Aside from being one of Sasuke's ancestors, Madara has 0 connections to the main cast. Obito was responsible for so much crap and was Naruto's ultimate evil counterpart. Plus a theme ('the young generation will always surpass the previous one') is being crapped on -if this theme was still existent then Obito would have sucessfully betrayed Madara and outlasted him.
 

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Tobi was a better villain. Not Obito, AKA Nagato 2.0.
 
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