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Recently updated in response to the recent Manga Chapter!
After the last manga alot of people have been asking question as to how Madara is able to absorb Chakra without having his eyes or any known Absorption techs.[
That has already been considered and there are 2 other occasions where the Rinnegans absorption is used and we see no "bubble" effect. I dont know how this idea has taken off like this but it isnt correct, the bubble effect isnt used everytime the Rinnegan is used to absorb. Lastly and in all fairness Madara absorbing the Chakra is never depicted in the manga, all we see is Madara covered in Amaterasu, then Hashirama saying he absorbed the chakra, then Madara without Amaterasu on him.
One of which being when Madara absorbed Naruto's Rasenshuriken, the other being when Nagato absorbed Killer Bee's Tailed Beast Cloak.
Secondly even if your assumption is correct you must then explain how Madara can use Susan'o without eyes? Or does Susan'o not require eyes now??? Oh what a wicked web we weave...
On top of which I want to say something:
Hashirama knows that madara has Senju DNA and Mokuton... So then why is he surprised at the fact that he can absorb Chakra. Which is something you people claim is an ability Madara inherited from Hashirama when he stole Mokuton from him?
Answer: Hashirama cannot absorb Chakra.
You keep me sane man, I dont understand how everyone is having such a huge problem with this idea.
Ive I were to judge I would say that the absorbing animations are strikingly similar. The only difference being that Madara is using specific area's to absorb as oppose to his entire body and thus we see the frivling at the end as the absorbing animation disolves, lets compare.
Madara Absorbing
Pain Absorbing
So now Susan'o is not an MS technique? This is the kind of things people are willing to openly accept, as oppose to believing that Madara could use his Rinnegan via Proxy which is an idea SUPPORTED by the Manga itself?
Update #1
Not to boast but the recent manga has more or less boosted the point in my thread where I explain how Madara can access his Sharingan/Rinnegan abilities through proxy.
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After the last manga alot of people have been asking question as to how Madara is able to absorb Chakra without having his eyes or any known Absorption techs.[
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On 3 Instances we see Madara absorbing Chakra:
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Principle To Live By
The principle I live by when reading Manga and watching anything that revolves around mysteries and subtle clues is the notion that no one does anything without a reason. Fairly simple but lets explain it.
Your watching a muder movie and at every crime scene you see an ice cream truck in the background. There has to be a reason for it being there... Not only why is it there but why is the author choosing to put it there?
Lets see what we have in the Manga:
Did anyone catch it? There was something very subtle stated in that scan, something that wouldnt have been said if it wasnt a clue to something... Read it again before you find the answer in the spoiler tag below.
Below I will Elaborate
Your watching a muder movie and at every crime scene you see an ice cream truck in the background. There has to be a reason for it being there... Not only why is it there but why is the author choosing to put it there?
Lets see what we have in the Manga:
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Did anyone catch it? There was something very subtle stated in that scan, something that wouldnt have been said if it wasnt a clue to something... Read it again before you find the answer in the spoiler tag below.
"Why did he close his eyes?"
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How He Did It
I believe that closing ones eyes allows you access to your eyes. Let me explain with a scan:
In the above we see that Obito, who also had one of his eyes removed and placed into someone else, began to receive visual images from his real eye when he closed his eyelids.
It is my claim that Madara did the same thing, he closed his eyes intentionally in order to access his Rinnegan and the tech it contains, one of which being Chakra Absorption.
But where is his Rinnegan? Its very interesting you may ask:
But one has to consider that even with a Psuedo-Rinnegan connection to the Rinnegan it is going to be hard for Madara to fight without being able to see anything. But again this is explained by my Principle, nothing is done without a reason. So the only thing we must do now is find an action lacking a good explanation:
He molded chakra, then high tailed it over to Hashirama in order to absorb his Chakra... But why?
In order to fight without eye sight he needed to immense sensing capabilities of Sage Mode.
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In the above we see that Obito, who also had one of his eyes removed and placed into someone else, began to receive visual images from his real eye when he closed his eyelids.
It is my claim that Madara did the same thing, he closed his eyes intentionally in order to access his Rinnegan and the tech it contains, one of which being Chakra Absorption.
But where is his Rinnegan? Its very interesting you may ask:
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But one has to consider that even with a Psuedo-Rinnegan connection to the Rinnegan it is going to be hard for Madara to fight without being able to see anything. But again this is explained by my Principle, nothing is done without a reason. So the only thing we must do now is find an action lacking a good explanation:
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He molded chakra, then high tailed it over to Hashirama in order to absorb his Chakra... But why?
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A Qoute from the Wiki
"Sages, who utilise natural energy, can also detect presence of people through their chakra, essentially making them sensors: in fact, the word senjutsu (仙術) uses the same hiragana: せんじゅつ, as the art of scrying (占術), an allusion to the abilities of Sages to sense persons while in Sage Mode." [
"Sages, who utilise natural energy, can also detect presence of people through their chakra, essentially making them sensors: in fact, the word senjutsu (仙術) uses the same hiragana: せんじゅつ, as the art of scrying (占術), an allusion to the abilities of Sages to sense persons while in Sage Mode." [
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Update #2
This is one of the Best observations i heard in regard to this topic
This is actually an extremely good observation. When you think about it Hashirama has Mokuton, which is capable of absorbing Chakra. So perhaps this is a type of Mokuton ability placed on Hashirama's body itself.
Very good point!
This is actually an extremely good observation. When you think about it Hashirama has Mokuton, which is capable of absorbing Chakra. So perhaps this is a type of Mokuton ability placed on Hashirama's body itself.
Very good point!
Update #3
That has already been considered and there are 2 other occasions where the Rinnegans absorption is used and we see no "bubble" effect. I dont know how this idea has taken off like this but it isnt correct, the bubble effect isnt used everytime the Rinnegan is used to absorb. Lastly and in all fairness Madara absorbing the Chakra is never depicted in the manga, all we see is Madara covered in Amaterasu, then Hashirama saying he absorbed the chakra, then Madara without Amaterasu on him.
One of which being when Madara absorbed Naruto's Rasenshuriken, the other being when Nagato absorbed Killer Bee's Tailed Beast Cloak.
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Secondly even if your assumption is correct you must then explain how Madara can use Susan'o without eyes? Or does Susan'o not require eyes now??? Oh what a wicked web we weave...
On top of which I want to say something:
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Hashirama knows that madara has Senju DNA and Mokuton... So then why is he surprised at the fact that he can absorb Chakra. Which is something you people claim is an ability Madara inherited from Hashirama when he stole Mokuton from him?
Answer: Hashirama cannot absorb Chakra.
Update #4
You keep me sane man, I dont understand how everyone is having such a huge problem with this idea.
Ive I were to judge I would say that the absorbing animations are strikingly similar. The only difference being that Madara is using specific area's to absorb as oppose to his entire body and thus we see the frivling at the end as the absorbing animation disolves, lets compare.
Madara Absorbing
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Pain Absorbing
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So now Susan'o is not an MS technique? This is the kind of things people are willing to openly accept, as oppose to believing that Madara could use his Rinnegan via Proxy which is an idea SUPPORTED by the Manga itself?
As Usual, Enjoy the Read
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