I can't understand something that happened in naruto

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Awhile back, we saw madara attempting to control obito in order to be revived with rinne tensei.(I'm reffering to that time when obito became the juubi's jinchuriki.) But obito resisted madara's power and was able to use the seal to become the juubi's jinchuriki, however, until minato cut obito's arm, we could see madara becoming actually alive, even hashirama was saying obito was using rinne tensei.

Here we see hashirama saying that rinne tensei is being used on madara:

And here we see madara's body become alive once more:

My question is, how come madara was "coming back to life" when obito never started to use rinne tensei and using a different seal(stated by naruto here: ). Is this a plot-hole or does this have a logical explanation?
 

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It was never explained.

I don't understand it either, it could be a mistranslation or a plot hole. One of the two.
 

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Because initially Obito was using the Rinne Tensei seal but switched it up.
This right here. If you go back and look at Obito's hands during throughout the end of 636 and throughout 637, you'll see that Obito is performing different handseals
 

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Impossible. we can see he is using the seal to become a jinchuriki in this page(and in the final pics of the page or some pages forward, we can see madara was recovering):

Now about what kami94 said, that is actually true, but i'm not sure if that was yet another mistake kishi made. I guess it's pretty confusing
 
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I believe Madara was trying to control Obito (as stated) but Obito effectively blocked it, before Minato cut his arms. So the process of the reanimation started but Obito was able to interrupt it before doing all the seals. Either this or Kishi just wanted to highlighten that Madara wanted to be ressurected (which is a huge fail of Madara imho but w/e)
 

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I believe Madara was trying to control Obito (as stated) but Obito effectively blocked it, before Minato cut his arms. So the process of the reanimation started but Obito was able to interrupt it before doing all the seals. Either this or Kishi just wanted to highlighten that Madara wanted to be ressurected (which is a huge fail of Madara imho but w/e)
However, Rinne Tensei has just one seal, we saw that when nagato used it (assuming you saw it), and it doesn't make sense that obito is using a different seal when madara was also being reanimated
 

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Ain't no mistake. Madara used Black Zetsu to make Obito use Rinne Tensei seal. Obviously Obito took control out of sheer willpower and switched up the handsigns to become Juubi Jinchuuriki instead.

If you can't understand such a simple matter, go read an even more simple manga.
 

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Ain't no mistake. Madara used Black Zetsu to make Obito use Rinne Tensei seal. Obviously Obito took control out of sheer willpower and switched up the handsigns to become Juubi Jinchuuriki instead.

If you can't understand such a simple matter, go read an even more simple manga.
You just can't understand what i'm saying, what you are saying is probably right, but what i'm saying is that even though obito is using a different seal, madara keeps being revived until minato cuts obito's arm. (I can't be any clearer than this)
 

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You just can't understand what i'm saying, what you are saying is probably right, but what i'm saying is that even though obito is using a different seal, madara keeps being revived until minato cuts obito's arm. (I can't be any clearer than this)
I understand what you're saying. It's not a plot-hole. One can conclude that the affect from the previous Rinne Tensei was still active because Madara was shown to be coming back. Although, in the current chapter, you can see that when the jutsu actually does go in affect, there was a minor explosion after Madara announced Rinne Tensei no Jutsu.
 

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I understand what you're saying. It's not a plot-hole. One can conclude that the affect from the previous Rinne Tensei was still active because Madara was shown to be coming back. Although, in the current chapter, you can see that when the jutsu actually does go in affect, there was a minor explosion after Madara announced Rinne Tensei no Jutsu.
Okay, now, I understood what you said, but i didn't quite understand how the argument you used proves my idea was wrong, and that explosion you metioned was that tiger sai used to seal madara before it was too late (obviously it wasn't successful). And when nagato used rinne tensei there wasn't any explosion either
 
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