[Theory] Madara's Real Intentions and Revival Arc of Shinju![Must read]

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I don't see how Madara is going to become the Juubi's jinchuuriki if he doesnt have any chakra from the nine or eight tails. Remember Obito had a piece of 8 tails and 9 tails chakra but they were taken back in the chakra tug of war and I don't see him pulling hachibi or kyuubi out of bee/naruto.
 

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I don't see how Madara is going to become the Juubi's jinchuuriki if he doesnt have any chakra from the nine or eight tails. Remember Obito had a piece of 8 tails and 9 tails chakra but they were taken back in the chakra tug of war and I don't see him pulling hachibi or kyuubi out of bee/naruto.

Have u read it bro?I already told that he absorb all those bijuus into the shinju..While doing that its certain that nine-tails and eight-tails will attack.So it can have their chakra too from there!
U know madara is clever!
Gedo can absorb more than 5 beast at a time we have seen that already.So the chance exists!
 

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Well seeing as how Hashirama has Madara's bvlack rods stabbed in his back, Madara will control Hashirama and use him to help control the biju
 

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Guyz as madara is reborn.I want to state wats gonna happen next!

Gedo mazou is linked obito's body as said by Kyuubi:
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Now the gedo mazou is in link of Madara as he switched with Obito:
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And wat does gedo mazou do?It seals the bijuus through gedo mazou chains:
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Wel Madara wants to complete Tsukyomi.And to do dat Shinju needs to be revived.To revive shinju u need all the Nine-beasts chakra. So basically what madara will try is to seal all those bijuus out there within the gedo mazo.Now how can i say that?
The answer lies here: Madara has already stated that he wants to be juubi jin and thats why he needs a living body:
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But in order to become juubi's jin u need to revive it!
I think after capturing all the bijuus chakra he will link that to shinju much the same way bijuus donated their chakra to naruto:
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He also stated he needs Hashirama's sage mode :
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This basically makes sense because before sealing a bijuu u need to weaken him and hashirama's sage mode can do that!Much like kushina did to Kyuubi!
Apart from that He can control hashirama too as He has inserted black rods within him:
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So.Wat do u guyz think?

Wel..a important question arises can madara really absorb all those bijuus?
Ans.Its basically possible because gedo mazou can absorb more than 5 tailed beasts as shown in Manga.
So y cant it do 7?
Talking about 9 tails and 8 tails chakra.They will obviously attack madara when madara will try to absorb all those beasts.So madara can take their chakra from their attacks.
Note:Gedo mazou can absorb chakra as its shell is mokuton!












He wanting to become the Juubi Jinchuuriki makes sense. But I think there is something that is not very well interpreted in your theory...

"Switch". What really Madara mean with the whole thing about Rinne Tensei was a life transfering, done though the control of the Black Zetsu. Rinne Tensei only transfer life energy to a certain target, nothing more than that, the whole thing about 'the link of the Bijuu/Mazou' is related to the Jinchuuriki's Body.

So, I think you may be kind of mislead when you state that the Mazou was transferred to Madara. What we know for sure was transferred to Madara this is Obito/Mazou's Lifeforce, you're kind of farfetching the extent of the Rinne Tensei Jutsu.

Now, let's talk about Proof.

a) I'm full aware of Mangapanda translation.

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And so you're probably interpreting Madara's current powers based on this one.

Now, let's look this one of ***********...

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Transfer is way different from Switch. Being a technique of the Rinnegan, the Gedo Rinne Tensei no Jutsu is the power related to those who can walk in the path of Life and Death, "the Seventh path of Pain" as it was referred once. As the Mazou is a live entity, Madara's powers can only control Obito, but not the Mazou in this point of the manga, so telling that the link was transferred doesn't make sense, since it is linked to Obito's Body, not to Obito's Life Energy/Lifeforce.

Now, going further, we could even tell that we should not trust in translations, so we should at least wait for the raw to get more accurate conclusions.
 

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He wanting to become the Juubi Jinchuuriki makes sense. But I think there is something that is not very well interpreted in your theory...

"Switch". What really Madara mean with the whole thing about Rinne Tensei was a life transfering, done though the control of the Black Zetsu. Rinne Tensei only transfer life energy to a certain target, nothing more than that, the whole thing about 'the link of the Bijuu/Mazou' is related to the Jinchuuriki's Body.

So, I think you may be kind of mislead when you state that the Mazou was transferred to Madara. What we know for sure was transferred to Madara this is Obito/Mazou's Lifeforce, you're kind of farfetching the extent of the Rinne Tensei Jutsu.

Now, let's talk about Proof.

a) I'm full aware of Mangapanda translation.

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And so you're probably interpreting Madara's current powers based on this one.

Now, let's look this one of ***********...

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Transfer is way different from Switch. Being a technique of the Rinnegan, the Gedo Rinne Tensei no Jutsu is the power related to those who can walk in the path of Life and Death, "the Seventh path of Pain" as it was referred once. As the Mazou is a live entity, Madara's powers can only control Obito, but not the Mazou in this point of the manga, so telling that the link was transferred doesn't make sense, since it is linked to Obito's Body, not to Obito's Life Energy/Lifeforce.

Now, going further, we could even tell that we should not trust in translations, so we should at least wait for the raw to get more accurate conclusions.
How can u say it is not linked to obito's lifeforce.
Kyuubi said it "Obito wont die due to lifeforce of gedo mazou"
That does imply that the lifeforce of gedo mazou is connected to obito's body.Check the first pic of my theory!

And it was madara who summoned gedo mazo at first place.With gedo's shell he created zetsus.If he can control zetsus how can u say he cant control gedo mazou?
Zetsus are nothing but just mokuton piles..
 
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How can u say it is not linked to obito's lifeforce.
Kyuubi said it "Obito wont die due to lifeforce of gedo mazou"
That does imply that the lifeforce of gedo mazou is connected to obito's body.Check the first pic of my theory!

And it was madara who summoned gedo mazo at first place.With gedo's shell he created zetsus.If he can control zetsus how can u say he cant control gedo mazou?
Zetsus are nothing but just mokuton piles..

That's why I ask to hold on for a while. You're making too much assumptions.

The relationships you're stating have a valid reasoning, but they are based on something that is not demonstrated:

Do Rinne Tensei no Jutsu transfer the Caster Properties to the Target?

If you can't demonstrate that, I could hardly give weight to the arguments after that assumption.

Furthermore, I could give you a proof that Lifeforce and Body have a common vertex, but they are independant one of each other...

Both are related to the Yang power, but they are not the same.

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Clearly it is stated that Physical Energy and Vitality are the basis of the Yang power, and the Younger Son of the Sage got his 'body' AND 'lifeforce' + 'physical energy'. That only means lifeforce and body are two separate things with common properties.
 
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Rine tensei does not transfer the user to the one it is being used on, considering Nagato did not become everyone he killed, which would make no sense. Moreover, one can clearly see Madara breaking the Tori Gates by unknown means. Since the whole thread revolves around Madara having switched bodies, this thread is inaccurate.
 

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That's why I ask to hold on for a while. You're making too much assumptions.

The relationships you're stating have a valid reasoning, but they are based on something that is not demonstrated:

Do Rinne Tensei no Jutsu transfer the Caster Properties to the Target?

If you can't demonstrate that, I could hardly give weight to the arguments after that assumption.

Furthermore, I could give you a proof that Lifeforce and Body have a common vertex, but they are independant one of each other...

Both are related to the Yang power, but they are not the same.

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Clearly it is stated that Physical Energy and Vitality are the basis of the Yang power, and the Younger Son of the Sage got his 'body' AND 'lifeforce' + 'physical energy'. That only means lifeforce and body are two separate things with common properties.
U may be right..But a bit assumption was necessary so i cant help it..
Rine tensei does not transfer the user to the one it is being used on, considering Nagato did not become everyone he killed, which would make no sense. Moreover, one can clearly see Madara breaking the Tori Gates by unknown means. Since the whole thread revolves around Madara having switched bodies, this thread is inaccurate.

When did i say rinne tensei is used to take over a person's body?
I just said he switched with obito.Thats all..Dont take it too far..May be there is wrong in Mangapanda translation!
 

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Rine tensei does not transfer the user to the one it is being used on, considering Nagato did not become everyone he killed, which would make no sense. Moreover, one can clearly see Madara breaking the Tori Gates by unknown means. Since the whole thread revolves around Madara having switched bodies, this thread is inaccurate.

Would be hilarious if Madara uses kamui. OP would be on point.
 
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