Obama the "Black" President?

[2justin9]

i live in africa until you know what my people went through you shouldn't care if the president is pink

 

[Kenotthib]

And whats the point of being black or white? I don't care, as long as its a good president, he should stay as one. Anyway, its funny, you look at their races, and their skin color, not at what they do.

I look at his race when people put a lot of emphasis on it.

 

[FemmeFatale]

There was a black president before Obama, before Goerge Washington the first man who lead was african american but they dont want you to know that

 

[Kenotthib]

i live in africa until you know what my people went through you shouldn't care if the president is pink

I was born in nigeria and even if I never heard of africa I could care as much as I want.

P.S I should care because I'm African-American and have ancestors who fought for there rights.

 

[2justin9]

why is it important that the president should be black

 

[BlacLord™]

You're just being pedantic.

Besides, there's no such thing as a uni-colour, everyone has a tint of another colour no matter how small so technically everyone is bi-racial.

Bottom line: He's black, the extent of which is of little importance.

Would you rather have had unscrupulous Romney?

 

[cptenn94]

Why is it relevant whether he is "full black: or "partially black". I just want a good president and i don't care what race he/she is.

^this.

I do dislike though how if you criticize the(black) president, you are labeled as a racist(its not as bad as it was during his first term). But if you are being racist towards say a white president, it is labeled as critique.

I dont care if the president is white black yellow gray green or blue(there were actually a family of blue people though). I just would like to have a good one.

I judge a person by their character, actions, and perhaps personalities. Not by a physical feature.

 

[Kenotthib]

why is it important that the president should be black

Where did I say he should be black? I'm simply stating our current president isn't black. I care because of all the credit he has gotten simply because people think he's black. It's funny how you brought up how you live in africa because my family in africa rejoiced when they heard that america who once kidnapped africans and has probably one of or the worst history of racism towards black people had elected their first black president. What part of africa are you from friend?

 

[Οdin]

why is it important that the president should be black

Looking at your avatar is like taking a trip back through time... so nostalgic. :T_T:

 

[Kenotthib]

You're just being pedantic.

Besides, there's no such thing as a uni-colour, everyone has a tint of another colour no matter how small so technically everyone is bi-racial.

Bottom line: He's black, the extent of which is of little importance.



Would you rather have had unscrupulous Romney?

You fail to realize it doesn't matter who sits in the oval office they all have one agenda.

 

[BlacLord™]

Looking at your avatar is like taking a trip back through time... so nostalgic. :T_T:

It didn't happen that long ago, haha!

 

[Οdin]

It didn't happen that long ago, haha!

It reminds me of the fun times... it was the first avatar I used here. ( ._.)

Alright... I'll stop the off-topic posts. Sorry. u_u

 

[BlacLord™]

You fail to realize it doesn't matter who sits in the oval office they all have one agenda.

There you go again, putting everyone in neat, tidy little boxes to categorize them; but guess what? Life doesn't work like that.

No president has ever had parallel thought and desire patterns, just because some share similarities, doesn't make them all the same.

Just look at Roosevelt and Bush.

 

[Pirate King]

All these people saying Obama was a good president/better than bush

CLEARLY no nothing about real US politics

 

[EnDash]

I hate the fact that the reason he was elected was mostly due to his race and he isn't even black. I feel like the one drop rule is idiotic and invalid in this day and age . So Obama was the first Bi-racial president of the united states. I'm not saying he has to be midnight dark. All I'm saying is that mixing blue and yellow doesn't give you blue. But whatever just how I feel about it. Still waiting for the first black president......

this is the best answer i can give you:

it doesn't matter if the president is really black or not, hell it doesn't matter even if he is liyng on purpuse to get votes. what matters is what the public thinks and the public thinks they have a black president. it's already written in history that obama is the first black president and he was elected twice (kinda rare i believe). that is what history will remember and what the public knows. and i think it inspires people.

black kids growing up look up to him as a role model and example that they can succedd too, and other ethnic groups see him as the beginning of a future of mexican or cuban presidents.

if it's really a lie, it's a lie i will gladly backup and support. if it turns out he just wears makeup people will really lose hope.

 

[Caliburn]

I hate the fact that the reason he was elected was mostly due to his race and he isn't even black. I feel like the one drop rule is idiotic and invalid in this day and age . So Obama was the first Bi-racial president of the united states. I'm not saying he has to be midnight dark. All I'm saying is that mixing blue and yellow doesn't give you blue. But whatever just how I feel about it. Still waiting for the first black president......

1) That's not a fact, if anything it's more of a lie you just made up. Yes during the election of his first term the fact that he was 'black' definitely had some kind of influence on his election. But if you think that that alone would be enough to become the president of the mightiest country on earth, then you are naive. Do you now seriously believe that there would be so many people voting on Obama just because of his skin color and that that group would be so large he became president due to it? Then your understanding of politics is very simplistic as there are countless of other factors involved. No doubt there have been people who voted like that for him, but likewise then you need to take into consideration that there have been people who voted against him for that exact same reason.

For his 2nd term that argument doesn't even hold any weight anymore as he was already president for 4 years. If people didn't like his 1st term, they are not going to vote for him just because of his skin color.

So your hating is misplaced as you are hating on a 'fact' you yourself created. It's not like that there weren't such motivations involved, however you are completely pulling them out of proportion.

2) Are you now seriously nitpicking on such trivialities based on your subjective opinion on what 'black' is supposed to be just so that you can say that you are still waiting on the 'first black president'?

I'm not an American, but I assume that what most people mean with 'black' is simply that he clearly isn't caucasian and that he is from African descent one way or another. Not too long ago America was, to put it blunt, quite racist. That someone that is clearly not caucasian succeeded in becoming president and that he has African roots, which gets associated with the American history of slavery, is above all a symbolic statement. Even if Obama isn't the descendant of a slave, even if he doesn't have much in common with the large majority of people of African descent, that all doesn't matter. The point is that the figure of Obama stands symbol for a changing America. All of that is just simplified to a single term: 'black'.

I look at his race when people put a lot of emphasis on it.

You are the one who is placing a lot of emphasis on it by taking that entire 'black' thing literally. Following your logic Obama would be 'black' for you if his skin color would have been two shades darker or that he can provide a family tree that proves he has not been 'mixed' for that many generations. That's just laughable, would you have rather then that he was called the first Toblerone-colored president? The Belgian Chocolate-colored president? The Nougat-colored president? Seriously I can't even believe you went there on what is nothing more than a triviality. If anything you would think him not being 'truly black' would be a statement of the multi-cultural convergence of American society.

Where did I say he should be black? I'm simply stating our current president isn't black. I care because of all the credit he has gotten simply because people think he's black. It's funny how you brought up how you live in africa because my family in africa rejoiced when they heard that america who once kidnapped africans and has probably one of or the worst history of racism towards black people had elected their first black president. What part of africa are you from friend?

Oh the irony. A few decades ago you could, figuratively speaking, kill a black man for the heck of it and get away with it and now you will gain credits if people just 'think' you are black. I'm not really an expert on American politics, but if you are going to reduce the complex mechanics behind it to simply your skin color as your decisive factor, then you have no sense of reality. If American politics are truly that simple, America is doomed. That's something almost out of a cartoon or political caricature.

Btw small tip, I suggest you brush up on your history, America didn't kidnap Africans, at least not Africans that didn't already got kidnapped from Africa. For the entire duration of the Atlantic Slave Trade, which lasted around 300 years or so, the European slave traders never left the African coast. They never went land inwards more than a few miles. They left Europe with ships loaded with European export products. In Africa they went to a harbor, unloaded all their cargo and went linea recta to the closest slave market where they traded all their cargo for slaves. They filled their ships to the brim with those slaves and left for the New World. Do you know who were the driving force behind these slave markets? Native Africans themselves. Europeans didn't have do much, they were practically giving to them the moment they arrived as long as they provided goods to trade them for. Back then the interior of Africa consisted out of thousands of tribes that were regularly fighting with each other. When a tribe got beaten, the winners sold them as slaves. There are even records of powerful tribal rulers that intentionally collected many slaves so that they could sell them to Europeans.

That's right, one of the key players in the slave trade were Africans themselves. Not that the role of Europeans was any better though. It's only during the 19th century, when the slave trade was already abolished and slavery was also strongly criticized in Europe, that Europeans left the coastal regions and ventured into the continental regions of Africa.

To make things even more funnier, some of the most powerful slave traders were Arabians/Muslims. The Atlantic system that linked 3 continents with each other and where slave trade had a primary role in, is considered to be one of the most successful, if not the most successful, economical business in human history...and it was in the end a joint venture avant la lettre between Europeans, native Africans and Arabians. Ironic, isn't it?

"America who once kidnapped Africans", oh please. No doubt the Europeans kidnapped by force people, however overall that was more exception than routine as it takes too much time and effort. These were not ships with hundreds of soldiers on them. The more place you have on your ship, the more slaves you can transport. The more slaves that you have, the higher the profit.

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

ok this os how i feel ... the reason he was selected , then elected is because he is bi-racial and they were a lot of black folk who elected him cuz he was bi-racial , now for being a good president that he is not...the last great president and leader amongst men was JFK , he wanted to put an end to what we all have a problem with ... the federal reserve and centralized banking, this isnt just a US issue its a world wide issue ... obama is just a puppet and he knows it ... he is part of the grand scheme which is to keep men enslaved by the dollar bill.

 

[Jin Hayami]

He is just a good president. ​

Uh yeah about that...He isn't.

 

[Sasuke Uchiha Susanoo]

why is it important that the president should be black

This just destroyed your thread U_U.
Close it now

 

[Sterling Malory Archer]

You should come to South Africa...it's pretty retarded down here.