High School Student Rapes And Kills Math Teacher

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Smartass people with no hard shit experience behind them in their life will always say that you can change the other person with just talking to them. No, you can't. You should remember that for the rest of your life.
 

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It's very hard to change people. It's very hard for a human to accept he/she is wrong, to acknowledge his/her mistake. In rare ocasions we can change a person's mind to show he/she was wrong when it's about ethics and morals. And let's not forget that like to be wrong.
That's only shame to not want to accept being wrong and our generation lacks the real feeling of shame because we are still young but he will accept what he did as long as he is put in a place where he can understand his mind instead of being trapped in a cage to be tormented for the next 20 years

Hm. I guess I should've raped and killed someone when my parents divorced in 2007..
No you should have understood their feelings for one another, dude how old are you because this is the kind of selfish shit that will be the end for us, the 90's generation was not meant to find scape goats unlike our predecessors. But that statement makes you sound very weak

Smartass people with no hard shit experience behind them in their life will always say that you can change the other person with just talking to them. No, you can't. You should remember that for the rest of your life.
ohh yeah where you from I from the Northend Detroit, tell what REAL pain have YOU experienced then!Our don't run your mouth
 
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No you should have understood their feelings for one another, dude how old are you because this is the kind of selfish shit that will be the end for us, the 90's generation was not meant to find scape goats unlike our predecessors. But that statement makes you sound very weak
I'm being sarcastic, smart ass.

And, understood his feelings? The moment he abused another being is the moment he doesn't deserve compassion. I'm 20.
 

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I honestly thought years ago that I would never have to witness or hear about another female reportedly being stuffed by a part of a tree.

All that pent-up rage rooting from a problem at home, horrendously displaced and projected to an innocent person. Tsk.

One really harsh world.
 

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That's only shame to not want to accept being wrong and our generation lacks the real feeling of shame because we are still young but he will accept what he did as long as he is put in a place where he can understand his mind instead of being trapped in a cage to be tormented for the next 20 years
He deserves that. It's not about if he can learn or not, but it's about what's best for society. "Oh, poor kid". NO. It's "oh, poor society". And again, it's very hard to change a person's mind, even more when it's about moral and ethics. It's in our nature, so stop being unrealistc. And if prison doesn't manage to fix it, he should stay there forever, as he won't harm society.
 

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People like him need to die or, at least, be imprisoned for life. You are not safe anymore on the streets, even in your own home. For the law to be respected, they need to make some things clear, by making him an example. It's law, it's order or it isn't? If that woman would've been in your family, would you still say "poor kid, he needs help" ?! Just put you in their places and imagine how they are feeling right now. How can you even think he still has the right to live normally?

People who have pity for him never had such incidents in their life. They don't know how it is, the loss of somebody at the hands of an idiot. I tell you it's not cool. You can't have pity for him. Not if he killed your sister, your father, anybody else. It's just horrible, what's happening. World's nowhere near safe anymore U_U
 

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Well, this is a lot more milder than Obito's reaction. All joking aside, this kid is clearly a psychopath without emotion. Jail wouldn't fix anything. I'd say, either death or lobotomy, let him chose.

Death would probably be the humane solution. Just imagine what the victim's family will do to him if he ever got released. Some of the most painful tortures in human history were exacted out of revenge.
 

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That's only shame to not want to accept being wrong and our generation lacks the real feeling of shame because we are still young but he will accept what he did as long as he is put in a place where he can understand his mind instead of being trapped in a cage to be tormented for the next 20 years
And yet he runs a good chance of being brutally killed if he were ever released. Imagine if he got out to society in a few years. The victim's family could probably just find him in a phone book and hire hit men to either kill him or kidnap him. In extreme cases, torture would be slow and painful. I believe I read somewhere that a mother of a rape victim actually droused the rapist in gasoline and burned him to death, and this was years after the rape crime occurred.
 

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I wonder what horrible life can lead a teenager to do something like that. A divorce can be nothing but one step in a life of hell and that outburst could be triggerd by nobody giving a sh*t about him. Too bad the teacher was in his way...

give me all the hate you want, i believe this could have be avoided if people noticed that kid earlier.
 

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Well you never know I mean punish him and he'll maybe learn his lesson. You could tell he's hurting inside. He never done anything wrong before his parents got divorced by this I mean anything extreme like this I could be wrong. I feel like if he could get help he'll be the same as before his parents got divorced
The person who got hurt was the teacher.

As for the guy- he is only 14 and already capable of serious crime without any help, he started it and finished it with all the details he could think of seeing that he even bothered to stage the body after all this. He went after her with clear intent and there were several points before he could stop before adding another bit of criminal behaviour.

He is beyond help already. Personal issues, my foot.


So 1 murder is cool as long as he doesn't do it again?
Seems like it. And here we thought people were annoyed by TNJs and think it worthless. Apparently they think it works on hardened criminals in RL.
 
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I wonder what horrible life can lead a teenager to do something like that. A divorce can be nothing but one step in a life of hell and that outburst could be triggerd by nobody giving a sh*t about him. Too bad the teacher was in his way...

give me all the hate you want, i believe this could have be avoided if people noticed that kid earlier.
Well, the brain works in wonderous ways. However, the fact that he callously went to watch a movie afterwards means he's a complete psychopath. You know how you can step on an ant and think nothing of it and go on with your day? Well this nut job is like that but with people.

It's kinda sad that he won't face true justice. If this were a different era, the family would throw him into a boiling vat of oil.
 

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Well, the brain works in wonderous ways. However, the fact that he callously went to watch a movie afterwards means he's a complete psychopath. You know how you can step on an ant and think nothing of it and go on with your day? Well this nut job is like that but with people.

It's kinda sad that he won't face true justice. If this were a different era, the family would throw him into a boiling vat of oil.
Unless he was born with some sort of brain damage, he wasn't always like that. he might only be a psycopath because nobody did anything to help him. Like that ant you were talking about. I think this kid was the ant everyone stepped on until he had enough and abruptly took all the anger out on the first victim in sight. He felt no remorse for the teacher because no one was feeling any remorse for him even before that murder. and now no one will ever feel remorse for him ever again. It's tragic beyond measure.

also, in the middle ages they used to accuse innocent women of being witches and burn them in public executions. no one was ever punished for doing that.
 

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Unless he was born with some sort of brain damage, he wasn't always like that. he might only be a psycopath because nobody did anything to help him. Like that ant you were talking about. I think this kid was the ant everyone stepped on until he had enough and abruptly took all the anger out on the first victim in sight. He felt no remorse for the teacher because no one was feeling any remorse for him even before that murder. and now no one will ever feel remorse for him ever again. It's tragic beyond measure.

also, in the middle ages they used to accuse innocent women of being witches and burn them in public executions. no one was ever punished for doing that.
Bold- So what's your plan? Go back in time to punish them? It's the past. It can be used as a lesson: we look at our mistakes in the past in order not to do it again. So, nowadays, we won't acuse anybody of being a witch and burn them.

And about the kid, his problems little matters. Everybody has problems, everybody has anger. This doesn't gie you the right to do anything you want. If he couldn't hold back his feelings, his anger, and did something harmful to society, then he doesn't fit society, Society> any individual alone. Society> him. "Oh, but he had problems" And now, he is the problem. So he goes to jail in order to protect us.
If jail can't fix him, he stays there forever. If he causes problem in there, then he gets killed. "Oh, killing him won't solve the problem" Yes, it will. It's one risk that is no more.
Stop pitying criminals, stop pitying scum.

It's not about him we should worry, it's about the citizens and their safety. It's not about his feelings. He might havve anger or any problems, but if he causes problem, then he becomes the problem to society, and then we need to take him out, he can't be with society anymore.
Then, after society is safe, we try to heal him, to fix him. Only after society is safe fromthe problem he became.

And yet he runs a good chance of being brutally killed if he were ever released. Imagine if he got out to society in a few years. The victim's family could probably just find him in a phone book and hire hit men to either kill him or kidnap him. In extreme cases, torture would be slow and painful. I believe I read somewhere that a mother of a rape victim actually droused the rapist in gasoline and burned him to death, and this was years after the rape crime occurred.
That's not the bigger problem. The problem is what he can do after he gets out. If he isn't fixed, then he might hurt again, kill again. He is harmful to society. It's not about him we should worry, it's about the citizens and their safety.
 
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Bold- So what's your plan? Go back in time to punish them? It's the past. It can be used as a lesson: we look at our mistakes in the past in order not to do it again. So, nowadays, we won't acuse anybody of being a witch and burn them.
I don't have a plan, and the bold part has no real wolrd value. I'm just pissed everytime people argue that the entire problems of the world and his sister are because of today's generation and today's society. Letting people go unpunished is not something new and was happening for centuries. here is what i was answering to:
It's kinda sad that he won't face true justice. If this were a different era, the family would throw him into a boiling vat of oil.
What i said was just because he thought there was a time where everyone was reasonable and just and moral and protected the innocent while executing (rightfuly) every murderer and rapist and unforgivable criminal. there was never such time, if this kid was born 1000 years ago to a rich and noble family he would have got much less punishment then lifetime sentence.

And about the kid, his problems little matters. Everybody has problems, everybody has anger. This doesn't gie you the right to do anything you want. If he couldn't hold back his feelings, his anger, and did something harmful to society, then he doesn't fit society, Society> any individual alone. Society> him. "Oh, but he had problems" And now, he is the problem. So he goes to jail in order to protect us.
If jail can't fix him, he stays there forever. If he causes problem in there, then he gets killed. "Oh, killing him won't solve the problem" Yes, it will. It's one risk that is no more.
Stop pitying criminals, stop pitying scum.

It's not about him we should worry, it's about the citizens and their safety. It's not about his feelings. He might havve anger or any problems, but if he causes problem, then he becomes the problem to society, and then we need to take him out, he can't be with society anymore.
Then, after society is safe, we try to heal him, to fix him. Only after society is safe fromthe problem he became.
I'm afraid you are correct. after what this kid did there is no more pity or understanding. either a lifetime in jail or death sentece is what should and needs to happen. not just to protect the innocent but to make other people who might do it more afraid to do it (which in itself a good enough reason to give him a death sentence). it's tragic, but any other way would not be right.

what i said was, that if people noticed and did something earlier he might not have gone and raped and murdered that woman. it could have been avoided if someone had the brains to realise something is wrong with this kid. even if he is beyond help and would kill someone regardless they could have lock him up somewhere instead of letting him go to a school full of kids everyday.

this case is already lost, the kid did that horrible thing to the women and ruined his life. i don't want to see that happen with other kids. but guess what? it happens, and it happens a lot. countries and schools should make more effort to filter those kids out and if they can't help them, at least lock them away from innocent people. the wrong thing that is happening is they only do it AFTER murders and rapes. before everyone just put a blind eye.
 
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