Is Naruto's speed still an issue for Sasuke?

[Honord Sage]

Naruto avoided the 4th Raikage punch something Sasuke could not and the Raikage said only Minato was ever able to do that. Sasuke is fast but He can't copy speed base on Kurama power sines He dose not have tail beast chakra in Him.

 

[BlacLord™]

KCM > Sasuke in speed. Which is obvious...
BM Fodderizes Sasuke in speed.

It's just as he said before. His sharingan can keep up with a very fast opponent. However, his body can't react fast enough. Like when he fought Ay. He went to stab him in the heart, but couldn't react to the liger bomb in time. Which is why he activated his susanoo.

Sasuke could keep up with Naruto with his pre-cognition, but his reactions are not up to par. Seen when he got bamboozled by Killer Bee 3 times.

@Bolded By activating Susano'o, he was reacting. :|
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Sasuke had trouble with matching Killer Bee's unconventional kenjutsu, the only other time Bee landed a hit was when Sasuke had let his guard down and had his back turned.

Anyway, those are MS feats and speed is just too damn inconsistent in this series.

Even the likes of FTG will be nerfed purely to make a fight more interesting.

The rule of the thumb is a character's speed feats will max out two or three times before becoming irrelevant, Minato, Naruto and Sasuke are all proof of that.

 

[paratise]

Naruto does not know How to use speed in combat (striking) at the tier his movement speed is like other people such as Gai, Lee, Neji, A (i am not saying these people are faster, but they have better knowledge and combat orientation in usage of speed due to taijutsu and CQC affinity), so due to Naruto's lack of experience and knowledge at field, his speed is not fearsome as people make out to be, it get countered/overcame (or "trolled" as some prefer to say) at least as much as it get succesful.

Also, it is not like they Will be entering close combat anyway, their battle style is way passed and different than that.

 

[Smd]

@Bolded By activating Susano'o, he was reacting. :|
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Sasuke had trouble with matching Killer Bee's unconventional kenjutsu, the only other time Bee landed a hit was when Sasuke had let his guard down and had his back turned.

Anyway, those are MS feats and speed is just too damn inconsistent in this series.

Even the likes of FTG will be nerfed purely to make a fight more interesting.

that child is a huge hyprocrit.

As well as a bunch of other things i cant say.


Sasuke has been already proven to be capable of keeping up with KCM naruto

As KCM is way more inconsistant

 

[shelke]

Rofl. So Deidara is faster than Minato now is he? No, we saw from the brief fights between Minato and E that Minato is fast enough without FTG to predict and react to him. Sasuke even with the Sharingan couldn't. And on the Databooks Sasuke's speed is at 4.5 where as Minato's is a solid 5. Your argument is invalid. Please die peacefully.

Databook is all that you have going for yourself? What a loafer. Deidara uses different Chakra based Clay accordingly with the opponents speed. Even his C2 was effortlessly evaded by Sasuke.

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Sasuke's Foot-Speed - Check out the perspective to roughly measure the distances covered in the blink of an eye :

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- Deidara is just as big as Sasuke's head.
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- He couldn't even tell when Sasuke made the move.
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- Uses Senbon to pin mobile Clay bombs - can knock back Kunais as well -

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- Is standing right below Deidara -

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- Deidara has no idea when Sasuke got behind him. That is double the traveled distance as Sasuke went behind his back after he pinned the bombs.

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- Sasuke and Co appear to be as big as less than half that guy's arm.
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- Suigetsu and Karin are a little smaller than Sasuke's head. That's more than double the distance covered in a flash. Not only that, Sasuke has made a clean swipe as well.

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- Deidara ups his Chakra to C2 as he thinks 'Sasuke's movements are definitely too fast'.
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- Check out Deidara's size an the dragon's. Now look at the size of explosion -

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. Deidara comments on Sasuke's speed, again.

Might as well just through this one in as well on how Sasuke uses two different techniques at high speed -

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- Shuriken- Jutsu at such a long range -

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- Uses Chidori spear -

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- cuts off the wing here -

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- He was manipulating the Wind-Mill or Fuma-Shuriken the whole time. But he cannot knock back those measly Kunais.


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- Sasuke appears to half the size of Naruto's head.

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. It is the same for Sasuke as well -

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- He travels that distance in a flash, literally. Sakura doesn't have any idea when he even came down, nor do the rest of them, given Yamato's comment -

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Those are far more impressive than these from Minato -

Minato's best so-called foot-speed instances -

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- Look at the distance that is less than half - less than 5 % on a few instances - the ones Sasuke covered. Not only that, any object that is thrown up, slows down under the influence of gravity and then comes down. Hardly impressive.

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In fact, it was simply used to force Minato to use FTG -

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- The best on-foot display from Minato, which pales in comparison to this feat from Sasuke. In fact, it looks laughable - Sasuke is right under the dragon -

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- Note its size compared to Deidara sitting on its head. He's literally a black dot-

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- He exists through right. That is nearly triple the distance Minato covered, going by the size measurement.

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- Couldn't fend Obito off and had to resort to FTG.
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- Lands Straight into the chains, in lieu of evading.

Apparently you don't know what the **** you are reading, processing, or even belching out. Nice whinging though.

 

[Multiply]

@Bolded By activating Susano'o, he was reacting. :|
@Bolded2

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Sasuke had trouble with matching Killer Bee's unconventional kenjutsu, the only other time Bee landed a hit was when Sasuke had let his guard down and had his back turned.

Anyway, those are MS feats and speed is just too damn inconsistent in this series.

Even the likes of FTG will be nerfed purely to make a fight more interesting.

The rule of the thumb is a character's speed feats will max out two or three times before becoming irrelevant, Minato, Naruto and Sasuke are all proof of that.

1. Sasuke was caught off guard when he got picked up, trying to go through the Raikage, just as I said. Yes he reacted to the liger bomb, but he couldn't see through what he was trying to do. The susanoo was merely a defensive mechanism.

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2. Beed was flying straight at Sasuke. Sasuke's pre-cog was able to see through his attack, this he adjusted his trajectory and bounced off Bee's neck

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I wouldn't even consider that a feat, as they were both mid-air. The only thing that saved Sasuke was his pre-cog. That just happened to be a time where Bee couldn't do anything but go right past him. If they were on the ground, he would have followed up the attack with another, just as he did the first two times he beat Sasuke up.

3. Unconventional or not, that's like claiming a street fighter isn't fighting fair when you're using Karate. It's a fight, use what you can to win. Sasuke didn't have what it took to beat him in a pure kenjutsu fight. Bee's speed was too fast. Had it been a normal man with those swords, Sasuke would have been able to shit on him, no difficulty. However, Bee was extremely fast, and the interval between each attack was so small, the sharingan was not able to read the movements.

4. I agree, speed is inconsistent, however Sasuke has just recently received his pre-cog upgrade, while he has had the EMS for quite some time now.

5. Sasuke's speed max out isn't even comparable to Naruto's... XD

@SMD; You're yelling out KCM's speed is inconsistent, and yet, I have a feeling you have no idea what the concept behind that even means. Even if the speed is inconsistent, KCM's fastest still trumps Sasuke's fastest...

 

[saw2097]

It will probably come up during the fight, Kishi will make sure the fight is still a rough one despite that. I'm guessing that Sasuke will get a way to counter it or the fight is done in a way that makes speed useless.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Sasuke was able to track flying obito, why would naruto still be a problem? The problem with high speed really only happens at close range.

 

[warlee]

Even if it's, kishi won't make it an issue. And naruto track obito just fine he didn't struggle to. Sasuke will be able to keep up while naruto will able to dodge most of sasuke's attack. But to say the truth kishi has been nerfin naruto's speed.

 

[Ahmed1993]

KCM > Sasuke in speed. Which is obvious...
BM Fodderizes Sasuke in speed.

It's just as he said before. His sharingan can keep up with a very fast opponent. However, his body can't react fast enough. Like when he fought Ay. He went to stab him in the heart, but couldn't react to the liger bomb in time. Which is why he activated his susanoo.

Sasuke could keep up with Naruto with his pre-cognition, but his reactions are not up to par. Seen when he got bamboozled by Killer Bee 3 times.

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[Bogard]

Sasuke was able to track flying obito, why would naruto still be a problem? The problem with high speed really only happens at close range.

He was tracking Obito's movements speed, not shunshin which is something different. For example, in latest chapter he couldn't track Minato's shunshin speed despite EMS activated [

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[Ahmed1993]

He was tracking Obito's movements speed, not shunshin which is something different. For example, in latest chapter he couldn't track Minato's shunshin speed despite EMS activated [

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Who told you he couldn't track him ?

 

[Bogard]

Who told you he couldn't track him ?

Don't you see the big exclamation mark on his head? [

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[shelke]

Because Sasuke was tracking Minato from the start. Then there is the issue of the FTG Seal from Tobirama as well.

 

[Ahmed1993]

Don't you see the big exclamation mark on his head? [

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And what that have to do with the couldn't track him nonsense ?
Sasuke could be confused as to why Minato is stopping Kakashi from Killing Obito.
And besides he was behind him , so how can he see him in the first place ?

 

[Prince Charles]

Don't you see the big exclamation mark on his head? [

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I actually wanted your opinion on something, it is indeed possible to track shunshin correct? This isnt in regards to minato but in general?

 

[Vicen]

No, speed isn't a issue.

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Sasuke curbstomps Naruto with zero difficulty. U_U

Perfect Susano'o GG

Amaterasu GG

Genjutsu GG

#SasukeSolos

 

[Bogard]

I actually wanted your opinion on something, it is indeed possible to track shunshin correct? This isnt in regards to minato but in general?

Of course it's possible to track shunshin, reason why there are level of shunshins to begin with. Minato's shunshin being faster than Tobirama's for example, or Gai's shunshin stated to be above that of Kakashi in part1 by Sasuke. Certain ninjas(Naruto, Minato or A) are faster with their shunshin than others

 

[Ahmed1993]

Of course it's possible to track shunshin, reason why there are level of shunshins to begin with. Minato's shunshin being faster than Tobirama's for example, or Gai's shunshin stated to be above that of Kakashi in part1 by Sasuke. Certain ninjas(Naruto, Minato or A) are faster with their shunshin than others

This and also the reason why its nearly impossible to track the FTG , is because you don't know where the user will appears.

 

[AlphaScythian]

He was tracking Obito's movements speed, not shunshin which is something different. For example, in latest chapter he couldn't track Minato's shunshin speed despite EMS activated [

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Minato appeared from behind, how could he track anything. I think its FTG anyway.
Exclamation mark may mean that sasuke wonders why minato protects obito and has nothing to do with speed.

Speed is speed. Shunshin is the same movement but augmented by chakra outburst.