Kakashi's level ranked throughout his age

[Takos]

13-year old, no Sharingan - keeping up with Iwa jonin who were well-known and respected in their village, so they were more than likely at least mid jonin. That puts Kakashi at around this level.

13-year old, Sharingan - roflstomping one of said jonin in one move, then keeping up with 40 jonin and ANBU for a while. High jonin, no less.

Part I Kakashi - people often assume he wasn't as strong as he was, because Kakashi was struggling against Zabuza and they think Zabuza was weak. He wasn't. Zabuza was strong enough to perform an assassination (although failed) on Mizukage, who was in fact Obito back then, and get out alive.
The testimony to Kakashi's skill back then was the fact that he was equal to base Itachi, who needed to resort to MS to defeat him.
Low kage level right here.

Beginning of Part II Kakashi - his speed increased, his stamina increased A LOT (fighting for a whole night without fatigue as opposed to fighting for half an hour and a week-time KO), and he can now use Kamui, though he still can't control it properly. Low kage to mid kage.

Current Kakashi - speed comparable to 6-th-gated Guy, genjutsu on the level of an Uchiha capable of controlling tailed beasts and perfect jinchuurikis for years, stamina/chakra control (probably a mix of these two) enough to be capable of using a Mangekyo technique 10 times (much more than Itachi) on a single chakra reserve along with many other jutsu, being able to fight evenly against 4 immortal V2 jinchuuriki with doujutsu... Even without MS, such feats shout for a high kage level. Now, with Kamui so fast and precise as it is now, currently Kakashi truly is in a league of his own. U_U


Embrace the truth!

 

[Chīkara]

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Still a mere jounin with no credibility.
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[Takos]

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Still a mere jounin with no credibility.
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A jonin, yes.
But then again, Sasuke is a genin.

 

[Biscoe Uzumaki]

pop pop......shots fired

 

[itachi4real]

All i see is wank wank wankity wank wank wank

 

[Takos]

All i see is wank wank wankity wank wank wank

Indeed. Wank and all wank, but a based one!

 

[EliteKakashi]

Current Kakashi - speed comparable to 6-th-gated Guy

...No.

He's got enough feats and hype that you don't have to start making things up for him as well. The only reason he and Gai stayed side by side while attacking the edo bijuu was because Gai slowed down to work alongside him.

 

[itachi4real]

Indeed. Wank and all wank, but a based one!

XD...this is what u call a very descriptive wank here

 

[Takos]

...No.

He's got enough feats and hype that you don't have to start making things up for him as well. The only reason he and Gai stayed side by side while attacking the edo bijuu was because Gai slowed down to work alongside him.

Indeed. That's one interpretation. That's why I used the word "comparable" and not "equal".

XD...this is what u call a very descriptive wank here

That's not the same, a based wank is a sub-type of a descriptive wank. xd

 

[EliteKakashi]

Indeed. That's one interpretation. That's why I used the word "comparable" and not "equal".

It's not really even comparable. Gai was able to move from the bottom of the lake that Kisame's body double created to right in front of his face so quickly that Kisame couldn't believe it, and was able to kick him so quickly that Kisame couldn't even finish a 2 word sentence. There is no comparison here.

 

[Oblivionx]

actually a resonable thread it was....!

 

[Takos]

It's not really even comparable. Gai was able to move from the bottom of the lake that Kisame's body double created to right in front of his face so quickly that Kisame couldn't believe it, and was able to kick him so quickly that Kisame couldn't even finish a 2 word sentence. There is no comparison here.

Note, however, that body speed is different from attack speed.
Guy's attack speed is clearly unmatchable, seeing as his fists catch fire due to the air resistance. However, he has never shown overall body speed of such level.

The bottom of the lake argument, however, is a valid one.

By the way, there is one more argument other than that that you can use here to prove your point. Can you find it?

 

[GrayParadise]

...No.

He's got enough feats and hype that you don't have to start making things up for him as well. The only reason he and Gai stayed side by side while attacking the edo bijuu was because Gai slowed down to work alongside him.

Incorrect, and a past thread I made proves this wrong.

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[Bronze]

Kakashi is indeed a prodigy and powerful. But Madara solos

 

[Optimistic]

Always knew there was another Kakashi fan.

1.Borgard
2.Minator
3.You

I will remember your name for the rest of my NB life.Nice thread.

 

[Takos]

Incorrect, and a past thread I made proves this wrong.

You must be registered for see links

You argument incorporates PNJ and I don't like arguments like this...
because if we start explaining things with PNJ instead of finding in-universe reasons for them, then anyone will be able to say that Konohamaru>Madara and would lose only because of PNJ if the fight occured, or a similar type of nonsense.

Thus, the explanation behind Kakashi not blitzing everything in the war is still a leftover hole in your argument.

Always knew there was another Kakashi fan.

1.Borgard
2.Minator
3.You

I will remember your name for the rest of my NB life.Nice thread.

The pleasure's all mine!

 

[Naijakid]

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Still a mere jounin with no credibility.
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This emo biatch

 

[paratise]

By the way, there is one more argument other than that that you can use here to prove your point. Can you find it?

Is that might be:

Spoiler

the fact that Gai crossed turtle island in seconds by 2 jumps

 

[TheEvilOne]

13-year old, no Sharingan - keeping up with Iwa jonin who were well-known and respected in their village, so they were more than likely at least mid jonin. That puts Kakashi at around this level.

13-year old, Sharingan - roflstomping one of said jonin in one move, then keeping up with 40 jonin and ANBU for a while. High jonin, no less.

Part I Kakashi - people often assume he wasn't as strong as he was, because Kakashi was struggling against Zabuza and they think Zabuza was weak. He wasn't. Zabuza was strong enough to perform an assassination (although failed) on Mizukage, who was in fact Obito back then, and get out alive.
The testimony to Kakashi's skill back then was the fact that he was equal to base Itachi, who needed to resort to MS to defeat him.
Low kage level right here.

Beginning of Part II Kakashi - his speed increased, his stamina increased A LOT (fighting for a whole night without fatigue as opposed to fighting for half an hour and a week-time KO), and he can now use Kamui, though he still can't control it properly. Low kage to mid kage.

Current Kakashi - speed comparable to 6-th-gated Guy, genjutsu on the level of an Uchiha capable of controlling tailed beasts and perfect jinchuurikis for years, stamina/chakra control (probably a mix of these two) enough to be capable of using a Mangekyo technique 10 times (much more than Itachi) on a single chakra reserve along with many other jutsu, being able to fight evenly against 4 immortal V2 jinchuuriki with doujutsu... Even without MS, such feats shout for a high kage level. Now, with Kamui so fast and precise as it is now, currently Kakashi truly is in a league of his own. U_U


Embrace the truth!

@Red

DAFUQ?!?!?!

 

[Takos]

Is that might be:

Spoiler

the fact that Gai crossed turtle island in seconds by 2 jumps

Ah, that's a good one, even better than the one I was thinking about. =D

Spoiler

That one was about base Guy being said to be much faster than Part 1 Kakashi and even with Kakashi's undoubted speed increase since then, it's highly unlikely he would match not only base Guy but gated Guy in speed.

@Red

DAFUQ?!?!?!

Care to elaborate?