Itachi can't kill any one in Tsukuyomi

[Shadow Phantasm]

the effects of tsukuyomi on a person is determined by ability of user and skill/ chakra of the victim. obviously a simple man would be mad even by a normal genjutsu but kakashi, naruto, sasuke etc are high caliber ninjas are they cant die by pitty jutsus

Keep telling yourself that when Tsukiyomi's lethality has already been demonstrated in the manga.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

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read the thread properly before calling other peoples dumb. I agree that people suffer from mental and emotional trauma but that doesnt mean the person dies.

Its like having a nightmare in which sm1 kill your father mother and cut you into pieces but still after you wake up , its just a dream.

Nope,Tsukiyomi makes the person believe the pain is real which can have negative effects on the body including death if the caster makes the illusion even more powerful.

 

[FireBird Marco]

Amount of EyE damage is directly proportional to The amount of trauma inflicted on Kakashi. only irony is that Kakashi can recover from trauma in hospital while Itachi will have to loose his eyes forever.

This here is gold!

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

Kakashi almost drowned if it was'nt for Gai picking him up.

that's what i was saying , there were kakashi's friends around so itachi have to defeat them before killing kakashi.
+ Itachi cant throw amatersu while he is casting tsukuyomi because he closes one eye to perform one M.S tech except for susanoo

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

This here is gold!

It sure is.

 

[Vegeto30294]

1. first of all , genjutsu is trapping somebody mind in the casters illusion. so what ever happens inside victims mind is just pure feelings . so no harm done to body.

Enough intense feelings and that person can have a mental breakdown. AKA Kakashi and Sasuke in Part I

2.Genjutsu needs constant eye contact + huge concentration hence Itachi is always seen standing still , not moving an inch. During all Itachi's genjutsu moves , itachi is always standing still and not moving to perfect his control upon his victim.

In a 1 vs 1 fight, that usually is a non factor because the opponent won't be moving anyway, unless you have an active summon or something.

3.If the caster closes his eyes or his opponent chakra level changes or if the victim is interfered by another person , then the genjutsu breaks. hence In most of Itachi's fight we see that the victim and caster is standing still without any response. so its basically all about torturing peoples and extracting intels rather than an offensive move.

The caster has to close his eyes before he falls into the Genjutsu in the first place.

You need a disruption in the chakra level, using Shadow Clones won't break out, even though it drains a lot of chakra.

Again, mental breakdown. Standing still if all you need.

4.A genjutsu of high caliber like tsukuyomi needs even more concentration so it can be casted for only few seconds.

Those few seconds sent both Sasuke and Kakashi to the hospital.

Druing this time there might be a lot of interference that might disrupt the smooth chakra flow like, blood dripping off eyes, general movement of body that can disrupt chakra flow or 3rd person interference.

Unless you're Kakuzu or something, movement of body won't disrupt chakra flow.

3rd person interference - Again, 1 vs 1, and an extremely small window before the opponent is already defeated due to Tsukiyomi.

5.During Tsukuyomi , a caster have a limited range of vision and his senses are highly concentrated into casting genjutsu so he is in risk of attack fr0m behind. A counter attack at this stage can be very dangerous to the caster. for eg a person can use shadow clone as a bait while the real person can attack from behind.

Again, 1 vs 1. Only the Shadow Clone part applies.

6.There is huge risk of loosing an eye due to blindness
7.A lot of energy is drained after tsukuyomi making the person's vision blurry and weak . so the caster is at very risk

Itachi had the Mangekyo Sharingan since the age of like 13 and became blind just before his death? I think he can go a while before becoming blind.

Basically, you're saying that the only way you can beat Itachi's Genjutsu is to have multiple people attack, when it was meant to be a 1 vs 1. :|

 

[The Necromancer]

There was nothing stopping Itachi from cutting off orochimaru's head, stabbing kakashi in the heart, or snapping deidara's neck while incapacitated within the genjutsu.

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

Nope,Tsukiyomi makes the person believe the pain is real which can have negative effects on the body including death if the caster makes the illusion even more powerful.

so you mean to say Dream feel fake suffering while dreaming is as real as it can be in real life. you get equally hurt and suffer pain while dreaming just like in real life.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

that's what i was saying , there were kakashi's friends around so itachi have to defeat them before killing kakashi.
+ Itachi cant throw amatersu while he is casting tsukuyomi because he closes one eye to perform one M.S tech except for susanoo

No,you said Kakashi was was ready to fight after being released from Tsukiyomi when he could'nt even keep himself conscious.

 

[Megatolium]

Tsukuyomi is feared for a reason you know, especially from Itachi who mastered it.

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

There was nothing stopping Itachi from cutting off orochimaru's head, stabbing kakashi in the heart, or snapping deidara's neck while incapacitated within the genjutsu.

ya itachi has a chance in those cases . but i dont give itachi credit for those victories because those were an opportunistic moves. but still you just cant kill orochimaru by cutting his head. kabuto tried but failed.

 

[Silent Phantom]

Kaskashi doesn't know every thing. There were kakashi's friends so if itachi wanted to kill kakashi then he would had to start fighting with kakashi's friends which means stopping tsukuyomi to start concentrating for fighting.

They all had their eyes closed also Itachi had Kisame with him.

 

[The Necromancer]

ya itachi has a chance in those cases . but i dont give itachi credit for those victories because those were an opportunistic moves. but still you just cant kill orochimaru by cutting his head. kabuto tried but failed.

You're retarded. Opportunistic moves. He defeated them and spared their lives on a whim. You've lost.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

so you mean to say Dream feel fake suffering while dreaming is as real as it can be in real life. you get equally hurt and suffer pain while dreaming just like in real life.

Except the illusion is real,anything that happens in the illusion effects the victim in real life as well.For example Sasuke immediately fell to his news after breaking out of Tsukiyomi that a non serious Itachi put him in.If Itachi wanted to kill Sasuke then the illusion would be more potent.

 

[Vegeto30294]

+ kakashi was already battle ready when he got out of tsukuyomi.

Yes let's watch a battle ready Kakashi when Tsukiyomi ended.

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[Harry Balzac]

the effects of tsukuyomi on a person is determined by ability of user and skill/ chakra of the victim. obviously a simple man would be mad even by a normal genjutsu but kakashi, naruto, sasuke etc are high caliber ninjas are they cant die by pitty jutsus

Ignore is bliss. Lol

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

No,you said Kakashi was was ready to fight after being released from Tsukiyomi when he could'nt even keep himself conscious.

ok I am too lazy to show the scans but you can find it youself.
also dont forget to watch the scan when sasuke broke itachi's tsukuyomi , it was itachi who was suffering from trauma or side effect.
the same goes to fight between Bee and sasuke where sasuke was more tired after Bee broke tsukuyomi

so I just want to say both victim and caster suffer nearly equal trauma. Itachi is just used to the suffering . I thinks so

 

[RoguePatriot]

Didn't Itachi cast Tsukuyomi on Naruto just by pointing at him?

 

[RikudouMadara]

@2:00 "The body cannot live without the mind" :yayy:
[video=youtube;XmXsYfXqJNM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmXsYfXqJNM&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

ok I am too lazy to show the scans but you can find it youself.
also dont forget to watch the scan when sasuke broke itachi's tsukuyomi , it was itachi who was suffering from trauma or side effect.
the same goes to fight between Bee and sasuke where sasuke was more tired after Bee broke tsukuyomi

so I just want to say both victim and caster suffer nearly equal trauma. Itachi is just used to the suffering . I thinks so

Uhh,Sasuke fell to his knees after breaking out of Tsukiyomi so that's false.Not to mention this is no evidence that he used Tsukiyomi against Bee since it's fan speculation at this point.