Does no ninjutsu means, no kai release as well? If it's the case, Minato can still win this.
The finger genjutsu still require handseals before usage [
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There is another way to break genjutsu other than kai release, which is pain [
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While shunshin is restricted, Minato still has superior reactive speed, so he should have the speed advantage to deliver a decisive blow with his kunai slash [
Does no ninjutsu means, no kai release as well? If it's the case, Minato can still win this.
The finger genjutsu still require handseals before usage [
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There is another way to break genjutsu other than kai release, which is pain [
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] [
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] So Minato could break it if he were caught it one by using this method.
While shunshin is restricted, Minato still has superior reactive speed, so he should have the speed advantage to deliver a decisive blow with his kunai slash [
@bold... Acknowledges Shunshin and ninjutsu is restricted then proceeds to show a manga clip of Minato using FTG..
Also Itachi hand seal speed is so fast the sharingan can't even track it so how is minato going to? [
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OT: The clear winner is Itachi
Itachi Fundamentals are >= to Kakashi in ALL Aspects and better in certain aspects (Shuriken Skills, Genjutsu, Hand seal speed, higher intelligence)
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Higer intelligence... As shown through Genjutsu and Fuinjutsu(Sealing KA inside of Naruto without any seals or markings) feats which require very high intelligence and chakra control.
Clearly the winner is Itachi.. Those who disagree bring manga evidence and not speculation
While Itachi has fast handseals, it's not as fast as you think it is. I hear this a lot "his handseals are so fast that Sharingan couldn't follow", but this is a wrong way of thinking.
The real thing is that Itachi is great in using misdirections in order for his opponents not to notice his handseals, something noticed by Kakashi in part1 on the same picture you posted(
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His handseals on their own(without using misdirections) while impressive, aren't as fast as you imagine. If they were, Sasuke would have never been able not only to summon a large shuriken, but grab and launch it in Itachi's direction even before he finished forming one of them
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Anyway it has nothing to do with this thread where ninjutsu even got restricted
On the other side, Minato's hand speed itself is so fast that it allowed him to throw a kunai against someone close to lightning speed when it was milimeters before him without him even noticing
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Raikage used his maximal Shunshin speed to try to blitz and defeat Minato, but look. The guy closed the distance to the point he was already at this position:
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But look at this gif:
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Like you can see, in that brief moment, Minato had time to throw a kunai above him, teleport to a three and come back on the kunai he threw an instant ago before A even went thru the kunai completely
We talk about someone who is probably as fast as lightning itself who was already near Minato's face, but Minato had time to throw a kunai above him, teleport to a tree and come back on the kunai he just threw before the guy even had time to traverse de kunai completely. Do you realise how insane that feat was?
For example, it's as if someone tries to shoot a bullet at you, but when it's already reaching your face, you have time to throw a pencil above the bullet, teleport somewhere else and come back to the pencil you just threw before the bullet even traversed the pencil, wow
Minato having superior reactiv speed gives him the edge in the close range battle to give the decisive blow with his kunai slash, sole purpose of my Hiraishin picture against Obito. I wasn't mentioning hiraishin
While Itachi has fast handseals, it's not as fast as you think it is. I hear this a lot "his handseals are so fast that Sharingan couldn't follow", but this is a wrong way of thinking.
The real thing is that Itachi is great in using misdirections in order for his opponents not to notice his handseals, something noticed by Kakashi in part1 on the same picture you posted(
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), same thing he most likely did during the shurikens battle against Sasuke.
His handseals on their own(without using misdirections) while impressive, aren't as fast as you imagine. If they were, Sasuke would have never been able not only to summon a large shuriken, but grab and launch it in Itachi's direction even before he finished forming one of them
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On the other side, Minato's handseal speed is so fast that it allowed him to throw a kunai against someone close to lightning speed when it was milimeters before him
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Raikage used his maximal Shunshin speed to try to blitz and defeat Minato, but look. The guy closed the distance to the point he was already at this position:
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But look at this gif:
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Like you can see, in that brief moment, Minato had time to throw a kunai above him, teleport to a three and come back on the kunai he threw an instant ago before A even went thru the kunai completely
We talk about someone who is probably as fast as lightning itself who was already near Minato's face, but Minato had time to throw a kunai above him, teleport to a tree and come back on the kunai he just threw before the guy even had time to traverse de kunai completely. Do you realise how insane that feat was?
For example, it's as if someone tries to shoot a bullet at you, but when it's already reaching your face, you have time to throw a pencil above the bullet, teleport somewhere else and come back to the pencil you just threw before the bullet even traversed the pencil, wow
Minato having superior reactiv speed gives him the edge in the close range battle to give the decisive blow with his kunai slash, sole purpose of my Hiraishin picture against Obito. I wasn't mentioning hiraishin
Itachi obviously wins. He has genjutsu and better taijutsu and weapon skills. His natural speed and reactions are close to Minato's if not on par with them, and sharingan bridges any gap. Itachi isn't restricted at all. He can win entire battles without using any ninjutsu.
i dont know............. i think itachi's got this, also at t bogard... itachis hanseal speed is far greater than minatos...also misdirection....he can weave the handseals while making the distraction. that feat itself is impressive, the purpose of it so to make the opponent think a he is about to sue the weapon not attempt ninjutsu, not to distract from his handseals.
but i said no ninjutsu so handseal speed is not really an indication of how fast he would say punch and irrelevent imo
i dont know............. i think itachi's got this, also at t bogard... itachis hanseal speed is far greater than minatos...also misdirection....he can weave the handseals while making the distraction. that feat itself is impressive, the purpose of it so to make the opponent think a he is about to sue the weapon not attempt ninjutsu, not to distract from his handseals.
but i said no ninjutsu so handseal speed is not really an indication of how fast he would say punch and irrelevent imo
Minato rarely use handseals in his fighting style so i can't tell. However in terms of hand speed, Minato impressed me more in the category simply because he fought faster opponents than Itachi and still managed to surprise them. At least he surprises the opponent within the battle with his hand movements and don't use misdirections like Itachi. In the hand speed, the reaction speed also has a great impact, so Minato having greater reaction speed than Itachi, he would obviously move his hands(or body) faster
Minato rarely use handseals in his fighting style so i can't tell. However in terms of hand speed, Minato impressed me more in the category simply because he fought faster opponents than Itachi and still managed to surprise them. At least he surprises the opponent within the battle with his hand movements and don't use misdirections like Itachi. In the hand speed, the reaction speed also has a great impact, so Minato having greater reaction speed than Itachi, he would obviously move his hands(or body) faster
Reaction speed you forget itachi has sharingan naturally he can predict and react faster than minato, itachi countered every single one of sasukes shuriken.
Also using misdirection is in itachis fighting style of causing illusions of somesort. Plus its not like he did it all the time it could have been simply to toy with kakashi and party
