BSM is Underestimated.

[new sage of 6 paths]

That's fine I represent unbiased truth. That means acknowledging unknowns and making intelligent assumptions w/o fanboying. If I lost your respect for that then good riddance.

no,you are biased.
i came up wit this thread to explain some things.
check your first comment.

 

[Turson]

From what I have seen PS> kyuubi
PS>> 50%Kyuubi
PS???BSM 50% Kyuubi

Depends how you look at this. PS and Kyuubi were portrayed as equal forces if you ask me. If Kyuubi was weaker I dont see why Madara would even bother to tame him.

Narutos BM is around 3 times smaller than 100% Kyuubi, and Sasukes PS has comparable size to BM. BSM gives Naruto the adventage IMO.

 

[ANiMUS]

wait,ur saying he is more adept at using rinnegan than nagato?
mehn,i think am wasting my time on you.

Dude, who do you think Madara is??? This is the same dude that mastered In'youton the techniques of creation used by the Sage himself. The creator of black an white Zetsu. The originator of Infinite tsukuyomi. Yes, Madara is DAT dude. He is the one who gave Nagato the eyes in the first place. Do you really think that he handed them over without mastering the techniques. Edo Madara has reworked hashi cell done by Kabuto. In chakra outclass Nagato. Uchiha + Senju=Sage power. That power outclasses the chakra pool of both Uchiha and Senju. Not to mention he is an Edo. Do you really think Nagato could take him.

 

[chaos control]

1.i was just relaying to the fact that Sm alwYs determined the winner between hashi and madara.
2.and BSM can still make it highly difficult for hashi.

Hashi would win because his golems can catch bijuudamas and shinsuusenju would definitely beat Naruto, but Naruto would still be able to put up a good fight. Naruto could probably beat prime Madara. Edo Madara only has a slight edge over Naruto because he could absorb most of Naruto's attacks with rinnegan and he has wood style.

 

[AGoodBoy]

I never thought it was possible for Naruto to underestimated or underrated at this point. A lot of people think he's stronger than Hashirama. It doesn't get much better than that.

Lmao worst part is there were legit fans arguing BM naruto was over EDO madara and SM hashirama. That's before SBM was shown mind you.

nah...never seen any thread or comment facilitating your claim.

lmao naruto fans doing damage control

 

[Noni]

Yeah jump on the bandwagon like everyone else

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Dude, who do you think Madara is??? This is the same dude that mastered In'youton the techniques of creation used by the Sage himself. The creator of black an white Zetsu. The originator of Infinite tsukuyomi. Yes, Madara is DAT dude. He is the one who gave Nagato the eyes in the first place. Do you really think that he handed them over without mastering the techniques. Edo Madara has reworked hashi cell done by Kabuto. In chakra outclass Nagato. Uchiha + Senju=Sage power. That power outclasses the chakra pool of both Uchiha and Senju. Not to mention he is an Edo. Do you really think Nagato could take him.

man,either you dont read the manga,or you are inluv with madara!
Nagato had his whole life to learn the secret of rinnegan,where madara only awakened it when he was a frail old man....hw do u think hes gonna master it?

 

[ANiMUS]

no,you are biased.
i came up wit this thread to explain some things.
check your first comment.

As I stated BM is haxed. The only thing that BSM has granted him from manga facts is sensing ability and the ability to affect Obito. As far as any other ability I treat them as unknowns until proven by manga feats.

By manga panels and feats can you prove othewise???

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Lmao worst part is there were legit fans arguing BM naruto was over EDO madara and SM hashirama. That's before SBM was shown mind you.


lmao naruto fans doing damage control

yea,like when sasuke fans claimed sasuke pawns juubito?

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

As I stated BM is haxed. The only thing that BSM has granted him from manga facts is sensing ability and the ability to affect Obito. As far as any other ability I treat them as unknowns until proven by manga feats.

By manga panels and feats can you prove othewise???

so we should probably believe sasuke doesnt have ps like his fans claim!

 

[Turson]

As I stated BM is haxed. The only thing that BSM has granted him from manga facts is sensing ability and the ability to affect Obito. As far as any other ability I treat them as unknowns until proven by manga feats.

Well, we can tell for sure that BSM has 50% more chakra in comparison to BM Naruto.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Well, we can tell for sure that BSM has 50% more chakra in comparison to BM Naruto.

yes,........

 

[ANiMUS]

man,either you dont read the manga,or you are inluv with madara!
Nagato had his whole life to learn the secret of rinnegan,where madara only awakened it when he was a frail old man....hw do u think hes gonna master it?

Nagato was in his 20s I assume when he died. At most Madara's life span was about 80 years, Madara died less than 20 years ago. Nagato was in his a preteen when Jiraiya found him. Madara probably transmitted the eyes a year or two before then. Nagato had about 15 years to master Rinnengan. Looking from that point there is no doubt that Madara( a genius) had <20 years to master the Rinnengan before giving it to Nagato.

 

[ANiMUS]

Well, we can tell for sure that BSM has 50% more chakra in comparison to BM Naruto.

I don't doubt that. At the very least BSM has long extended the duration of BM.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Nagato was in his 20s I assume when he died. At most Madara's life span was about 80 years, Madara died less than 20 years ago. Nagato was in his a preteen when Jiraiya found him. Madara probably transmitted the eyes a year or two before then. Nagato had about 15 years to master Rinnengan. Looking from that point there is no doubt that Madara( a genius) had <20 years to master the Rinnengan before giving it to Nagato.[/QUOT
bro,u dont know what your saying.
Nagato is probably minato's agemate.
remember jiraiya taught minato after nagato died.and minato being naruto's dad had him in his twenties..tops 25.
now add naruto's currrent age to minato's.
and madara clearly said he awakened it near the end of his life..
20 yrs aint near,its a long tym.

 

[AGoodBoy]

yea,like when sasuke fans claimed sasuke pawns juubito?

Far more plausible than nardo pwning Hashi or madara. Featwise right now, Juubito sucks like hell. With a little Sage chakra naruto and sasuke could solo the idiot. They've basically been doing it right now lmao

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Far more plausible than nardo pwning Hashi or madara. Featwise right now, Juubito sucks like hell. With a little Sage chakra naruto and sasuke could solo the idiot. They've basically been doing it right now lmao

naruto beats alive ems madara.
sasuke can solo juubito?

 

[ANiMUS]

Nagato was in his 20s I assume when he died. At most Madara's life span was about 80 years, Madara died less than 20 years ago. Nagato was in his a preteen when Jiraiya found him. Madara probably transmitted the eyes a year or two before then. Nagato had about 15 years to master Rinnengan. Looking from that point there is no doubt that Madara( a genius) had <20 years to master the Rinnengan before giving it to Nagato.

bro,u dont know what your saying.
Nagato is probably minato's agemate.
remember jiraiya taught minato after nagato died.and minato being naruto's dad had him in his twenties..tops 25.
now add naruto's currrent age to minato's.

Sorry, yeah you are right my mistake. Still, Madara was around long before the establishment of the leaf village and about as long as Mito. Still, Madara had plenty of time to do nothing but master the Rinnengan techs.(In a hole) and even after transplanting his eyes he continued to work on jutsu. The only technique I remember Obito stating that Madara had not come up with was the the tech. he used to make the paths of pain and branches of his power to each. Edo Madara has more raw power as in chakra than Nagato and inexhaustible reserves. So yeah Madara would still be strong with Rinnengan.

 

[AGoodBoy]

naruto beats alive ems madara.
sasuke can solo juubito?

EMS madara isn't edo madara, now is he? Bringing him up doesn't change the fact that naruto fans are demented.

 

[ANiMUS]

naruto beats alive ems madara.
sasuke can solo juubito?

With what????? PS slash destroys TBB before reaching susanoo. Gunbai creates impenetrable wall. PS tanks TBB Zero damage.
It would be a good fight, but my money is still on Madara