BSM is Underestimated.

[new sage of 6 paths]

Sorry, yeah you are right my mistake. Still, Madara was around long before the establishment of the leaf village and about as long as Mito. Still, Madara had plenty of time to do nothing but master the Rinnengan techs.(In a hole) and even after transplanting his eyes he continued to work on jutsu. The only technique I remember Obito stating that Madara had not come up with was the the tech. he used to make the paths of pain and branches of his power to each. Edo Madara has more raw power as in chakra than Nagato and inexhaustible reserves. So yeah Madara would still be strong with Rinnengan.

nope,madara was so old when he awakened it,he became so weak then that it was only the gedous chakra that kept him alive,he even said it! how do you want him to master an ability that sucked a lot of life force from someone whose clan has enough of it?
bro,am not a diehard fanboy that eill argue abt naruto being as strong as madara.but all i am saying is naruto gives edo madara a hard tyme!

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

With what????? PS slash destroys TBB before reaching susanoo. Gunbai creates impenetrable wall. PS tanks TBB Zero damage.
It would be a good fight, but my money is still on Madara

i wont even bother with your comment.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

EMS madara isn't edo madara, now is he? Bringing him up doesn't change the fact that naruto fans are demented.

and u arent?

 

[iNotorious]

With what????? PS slash destroys TBB before reaching susanoo. Gunbai creates impenetrable wall. PS tanks TBB Zero damage.
It would be a good fight, but my money is still on Madara

a TBB or TBB with senjutsu 100%?

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

a TBB or TBB with senjutsu 100%?

pls dont bother replying.

 

[ANiMUS]

nope,madara was so old when he awakened it,he became so weak then that it was only the gedous chakra that kept him alive,he even said it! how do you want him to master an ability that sucked a lot of life force from someone whose clan has enough of it?
bro,am not a diehard fanboy that eill argue abt naruto being as strong as madara.but all i am saying is naruto gives edo madara a hard tyme!

Doesn't take chakra to perceive the capacity of jutsu. Madara has a jutsu in which he can simulate reality. Not only that with that same decrepit body he was able to create numerous zetsu. Mazo life support dude. Sorry, but I am tired PEACE!!!!!:bye::bye::bye:

 

[ANiMUS]

a TBB or TBB with senjutsu 100%?

Sorry, but I am really tired with this topic. I love Asuna from SAO and Chocolat is adorable. Still, a big enough TBB might do damage to PS but damage from Senjutsu TBB hasn't been measured still its countered by a slash unless done as point blank range and I am not replying any further.:bye:

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Doesn't take chakra to perceive the capacity of jutsu. Madara has a jutsu in which he can simulate reality. Not only that with that same decrepit body he was able to create numerous zetsu. Mazo life support dude. Sorry, but I am tired PEACE!!!!!:bye::bye::bye:

its gengutsu bro,only powerful,cus he was hooked up to mazou.

 

[iNotorious]

pls dont bother replying.

mhm..

Sorry, but I am really tired with this topic. I love Asuna from SAO and Chocolat is adorable. Still, a big enough TBB might do damage to PS but damage from Senjutsu TBB hasn't been measured still its countered by a slash unless done as point blank range and I am not replying any further.:bye:

Same as me, i love asuna and her personality.

PS might tank TBB but we haven't seen a full TBB filled with senjutsu chakra against PS.

 

[Flakez]

The only people who underestimate it are Sausage wankers, but you can't really take seriously those people.

 

[AGoodBoy]

and u arent?

Nope. Nice try though, Ain't the one claim Sasuke > Juubito, B(S)M Naruto > Edo madara/Hashirama, BSM naruto > EMS madara. That's all you. I'm just going by what Kishi produced in his manga, not what I think he produced.

 

[Champ]

He overrated

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

He overrated

and you dont overreate sasuke.

 

[Xāvî1]

I agree......................

 

[xxSAGExx]

learning SM made chuunin level naruto a KAGE level shinobi,in a sense that he could compete with pein.
Now lets explore BM Naruto's recent abilities;-
1.he owned 5 bijuus.
(2.held his own against madara and even protected kakashi and gai once a while.
3.tanked a juubi laser tbb with minimal difficulty.
4.held his own against juubi,even though he was clearly outmatched.
and others i might ave forgotten.BM placed naruto as 4th strongest.
Now since SM exponatially increases your abilities,how do you think BSM is gonna be if it was showcased in battle.
i just want to clearify the OPness of BSM.
since people claim it does nothing but make naruto's attack effective against juubito,which is wrong.

I agree overall but you're mistake in what you first said. Naruto base was jounin level upon learning SM. Kakashi stated that Naruto was on even standings with him or even surpassed him when Naruto learned rasenshuriken, he said it after Naruto beat Kakuza while they were in the Ramen place. Naruto's base has gotten even stronger after learning SM and even handle Bee's 2 friends with ease when they went to Konoha for info on Sasuke, Naruto only got pushed back because be was protecting Sakura.

Pain's fight was handicapped, Pain used Almighty push which weakened him and Naruto was training before fighting Pain and used 2 clones which makes his power 1/3rd on the field.

Naruto has the fire power but still new to them so after mastering his powers and training for a few years then he will be 1st no doubt. Great thing about Naruto's training is that he can use shadow clones to increase is training time over 100x. He used 200 clones while learning wind elements which was 200 days of training in 1 day, he trained for a few weeks to a month in total. He was being cautious of his clones losing control and going cloak mode but since he has Kurama, ne can use even more clones to better his training even more but since we know of 200 clones I'll use that. So if Naruto trains for 3 years with 200 clones, that's 200 days worth of training per day so that's like 219k days of training in 3 years.

He has to potential to be stronger than anyone really.