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Thats a baseless assumption. You're only saying that to try and prove susanoo can't be absorbed.

God knows why kabuto would keep preta path active when he wasn't even using it.

This ^.

Susanoo simply tanks it.

Tbh this is plausible. Sasuke's tanked Juubi's deathgoo with it, I don't see why it won't block an 'ethereal' weapon :).
 

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This ^.



Tbh this is plausible. Sasuke's tanked Juubi's deathgoo with it, I don't see why it won't block an 'ethereal' weapon :).

No it didn't tank it... It erased that portion of susanoo lol

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Thats a baseless assumption. You're only saying that to try and prove susanoo can't be absorbed.

God knows why kabuto would keep preta path active when he wasn't even using it.

Nope everyone should know Preta Path can absorb susanoo. since it is chakra.. I was referring to Totsuka not being absorbed. Since Totsuka is not chakra if you feel totsuka is chakra please just stop

Why not keep it active? After all it saved Nagato twice while he was using 3 different paths at once thus showing it was ALWAYS active.
 
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It is expelled along with the Susano'o because Itachi chose to wield it through his Susano'o. It appears alongside it, it disperses with it too, simple as that.

Possibly, but by the look of it, it seems that the effect takes place almost immediately. The reason Nagato didn't react to the incoming attack seems to have been that he simply [Due to the rubble from the destroyed Chibaku Tensei], and from what we've seen of the blade so far, the effect seems to be immediate. [Note that Nagato's face immediately started crumbling once he was pierced by the blade] Another thing that needs to be noted is that even if Madara, or anyone else uses the Gakido to defend himself against it [Which is, when you think about it, not too likely when you consider the fact that they have no info on the inner workings of the blade whatsoever], the fact still remains that he'd have a giant hole sticking through his chest, which is an injury which will take out almost any ninja.

In any case, I doubt that the Gakido will do much at all in a situation like this. Mainly due to the fact that even while it might possibly be able to prevent the Sealing Jutsu from taking place, the fact still remains that for most people, the Gakido wouldn't be the first choice of a counter attack for most people. Then of course, there's the fact that the effects seem to take place almost immediately. Another thing that should be noted is that even if it may help prevent the sealing, the blade will still leave an injury which will take out almost every Shinobi in the series.​
@ Red: Black Zetsu. Madara has knowledge of the blade + workings and would know to stay away. This is the most understandable method of countering the blade.

OT: The Totsuka Katana is fixated with Itachi's Complete Susano'o and in being so it can remain in the spiritual realm or enter the physical realm which is dependent on the users intentions with the Susano'o as we've seen Sasuke allow White Zetsu to phase through The Susanoo's material [spiritual realm] for interrogation purposes and alternately we've seen it being used as a defence mechanism against Danzo [physical realm]. The Katana itself is liquid regurgitated by the gourd within which objects are sealed. Liquid solidifies and may be used as an extendible weapon which; when pierced through the desired target it seemingly liquefies them joining them with it's composition to be channelled back into the gourd.Though Susano'o is founded upon chakra the composition of the liquid remains unknown and being so makes your theory undoubtedly moot.
 
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@ Red: Black Zetsu. Madara has knowledge of the blade + workings and would know to stay away. This is the most understandable method of countering the Jutsu.

OT: The Totsuka Katana is fixated with Susano'o and in being so it can remain in the spiritual realm or enter the physical realm. The Katana itself is liquid regurgitated by the gourd in which objects are sealed. Liquid solidifies and may be used as an extendible weapon which; when pierced through the desired target it seemingly liquefies them joining them with it's composition to be channelled back into the gourd.Though Susano'o is founded upon chakra the composition of the liquid remains unknown and being so makes your theory undoubtedly moot.

Nope.
it's imbued with a sealing jutsu. These jutsu are CHAKRA. CHAKRA is absorbed.
 

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More likely it just over powered the part of Susano'o. Madara's PS is more powerful, IMO

No it is due to Obito onyoudon that erases ninjutsu.. When Obito introduced the concept of things being above ninjutsu. This pretty much summed up what totsuka and Yata could be truly capable of since they are ethereal weapons
 

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No it is due to Obito onyoudon that erases ninjutsu.. When Obito introduced the concept of things being above ninjutsu. This pretty much summed up what totsuka and Yata could be truly capable of since they are ethereal weapons

Why wasn't susano'o erased completely.

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No.
 

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Nope.
it's imbued with a sealing jutsu. These jutsu are CHAKRA. CHAKRA is absorbed.

Nope...

The sealing/Fuuinjutsu is done within the gourd. Totsuka only provides a medium to get the target within the gourd. By the time the sword absorbs them into the gourd..they are entirely incapacitated as liquid and wouldn't be able to perform any jutsu. Either way if what you were saying was true, you still haven't taken into account the possible effect the said chakra would have on the user as we've seen Shizen Enerugi petrify Gakido who was attempting to absorb Naruto's chakra while in Sennin Modo.
 

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Nope...

The sealing/Fuuinjutsu is done within the gourd. Totsuka only provides a medium to get the target within the gourd. By the time the sword absorbs them into the gourd..they are entirely incapacitated as liquid and wouldn't be able to perform any jutsu. Either way if what you were saying was true, you still haven't taken into account the possible effect the said chakra would have on the user as we've seen Shizen Enerugi petrify Gakido who was attempting to absorb Naruto's chakra while in Sennin Modo.


Nope..
The sealing/Fuuinjutsu is said to be 'On the blade' ( Just reading the Data book ) and so the moment it comes within range, it is absorbed. There is absolutely no reason that the chakra would have any properties like Sennin chakra.
 

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Nope..
The sealing/Fuuinjutsu is said to be 'On the blade' ( Just reading the Data book ) and so the moment it comes within range, it is absorbed. There is absolutely no reason that the chakra would have any properties like Sennin chakra.
If you really want to go databook then Totsuka also says it cuts down any enemy which based on manga feats it has so to answer your question... Madara might not be sealed (based on your theory) but Totsuka would destroy PS and Madara

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If you really want to go databook then Totsuka also says it cuts down any enemy which based on manga feats it has so to answer your question... Madara might not be sealed (based on your theory) but Totsuka would destroy PS and Madara

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Even if this was true ( It isn't as PS wouldn't be destroyed lol ), Madara with Rinnegan = edo = He can be stabbed all you like.
 

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^ Souls sucked out by the sword are sealed inside.
 

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^ Souls sucked out by the sword are sealed inside.

It doesn't matter, the SWORD is sealing them within the gourd. The sword/blade has the sealing jutsu.
 
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