Madara counters Totsuka.

[KGB Kakuzu]

and you dont get mad, children get mad.


Why didnt nagato use Preth path on tosuka?

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Kabuto took direct control over Nagato. Thus he was acting on Kabuto's orders. For example, Kabuto planned to kill Naruto and Bee using the Naraka path and use them to black mail Obito. As such, Nagato couldn't act without orders.
More proof of this?!



1. The Totsuka blade cuts physical objects as seen against Orochimaru's Hydra. Many heads were decapitated, but not sealed. Thus, when used, it is optional to seal or slice as well as confirms it strikes as a physical object.

2. The Rinnegan can see chakra: thus it can see through a simple smoke cloud.

3. Nagato possesses Shinra Tensei which is a physical barrier, but not a tangible object. Unable to be pierced, it cannot be sealed and thus it blocks the Totsuka blade.

A Nagato able to act on defense would block the Totsuka blade.



OT: even if it isn't a pure chakra entity, it's still countered.

1. It cannot exist without Susanoo.

2. Susanoo is a chakra entity

3. Using the preta path on Susanoo forces the Totsuka to be incapable of functioning.

4. As I explained, Shinra Tensei can be used to deflect the Totsuka. Worst case Madara just has to keep pushing Itachi away until Itachi's chakra gives.

 

[Smd]

Kabuto took direct control over Nagato. Thus he was acting on Kabuto's orders. For example, Kabuto planned to kill Naruto and Bee using the Naraka path and use them to black mail Obito. As such, Nagato couldn't act without orders.
More proof of this?!



1. The Totsuka blade cuts physical objects as seen against Orochimaru's Hydra. Many heads were decapitated, but not sealed. Thus, when used, it is optional to seal or slice as well as confirms it strikes as a physical object.

2. The Rinnegan can see chakra: thus it can see through a simple smoke cloud.

3. Nagato possesses Shinra Tensei which is a physical barrier, but not a tangible object. Unable to be pierced, it cannot be sealed and thus it blocks the Totsuka blade.

A Nagato able to act on defense would block the Totsuka blade.



OT: even if it isn't a pure chakra entity, it's still countered.

1. It cannot exist without Susanoo.

2. Susanoo is a chakra entity

3. Using the preta path on Susanoo forces the Totsuka to be incapable of functioning.

4. As I explained, Shinra Tensei can be used to deflect the Totsuka. Worst case Madara just has to keep pushing Itachi away until Itachi's chakra gives.

I can't argue with someone who reads manga unlike op.

But the op made it seem like tosuka could be absorbed

 

[Mitarashi]

Kabuto took direct control over Nagato. Thus he was acting on Kabuto's orders. For example, Kabuto planned to kill Naruto and Bee using the Naraka path and use them to black mail Obito. As such, Nagato couldn't act without orders.
More proof of this?!



1. The Totsuka blade cuts physical objects as seen against Orochimaru's Hydra. Many heads were decapitated, but not sealed. Thus, when used, it is optional to seal or slice as well as confirms it strikes as a physical object.

2. The Rinnegan can see chakra: thus it can see through a simple smoke cloud.

3. Nagato possesses Shinra Tensei which is a physical barrier, but not a tangible object. Unable to be pierced, it cannot be sealed and thus it blocks the Totsuka blade.

A Nagato able to act on defense would block the Totsuka blade.



OT: even if it isn't a pure chakra entity, it's still countered.

1. It cannot exist without Susanoo.

2. Susanoo is a chakra entity

3. Using the preta path on Susanoo forces the Totsuka to be incapable of functioning.

4. As I explained, Shinra Tensei can be used to deflect the Totsuka. Worst case Madara just has to keep pushing Itachi away until Itachi's chakra gives.

I can't argue with someone who reads manga unlike op.

But the op made it seem like tosuka could be absorbed

I said that was plausible, but other than that I said just what he did L.

Madara has a counter to every jutsu.

Lel.

 

[TheLastHokage216]

I JUST THINK ITACHI FANS JUST BUTTHURT, yall in denial its ok........Its edo Madara of course he'll make itachi look fodderish

 

[Mitarashi]

I JUST THINK ITACHI FANS JUST BUTTHURT, yall in denial its ok........Its edo Madara of course he'll make itachi look fodderish

This is the truth.

I know Itachi is a superb shinobi, one of the greatest, but Madara is probably THE greatest shinobi outside of the sage right now, He's got everything pre-Jin Sage did.

 

[BlackFlame44]

How exactly do you absorb a sealing jutsu?

 

[Mitarashi]

How exactly do you absorb a sealing jutsu?

Sealing jutsu along with all jutsu are just a manipulation of chakra used in a specific way shape or form. Any shape or form of chakra will be absorbed by preta.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Sealing jutsu along with all jutsu are just a manipulation of chakra used in a specific way shape or form. Any shape or form of chakra will be absorbed by preta.

Mainly because it's only seen absorbing attacks that shoot energy at someone...

Plus nagato couldn't really do it so not sure how madara can

 

[Mitarashi]

Mainly because it's only seen absorbing attacks that shoot energy at someone...

Plus nagato couldn't really do it so not sure how madara can

Nope, if this were the case how did it absorb the Oil ect all around Preta path?
And Nagato COULD do it, it's just he either didn't want to, as he wanted to be sealed, or Kabuto was un-aware of this, or just plot.

 

[Tobi123]

So Rinnegan wielder >Itachi.

 

[Mitarashi]

So Rinnegan wielder >Itachi.

Assuming they all get the path techs ( And I think they do.. ) then yes.

 

[Exaar]

Nope everyone should know Preta Path can absorb susanoo. since it is chakra.. I was referring to Totsuka not being absorbed. Since Totsuka is not chakra if you feel totsuka is chakra please just stop

Why not keep it active? After all it saved Nagato twice while he was using 3 different paths at once thus showing it was ALWAYS active.

Your not making Sense, If Preta path is always active then, Then susanoo would of been absorbed in Itachi's attack, Since now your saying it can be absorbed.

But it wasn't absorbed, Do you know why? becuase Preta path wasn't always active, Thus why it didn't absorbed totsuka.

You basically just owned your own argument, nice one.

 

[Mitarashi]

Your not making Sense, If Preta path is always active then, Then susanoo would of been absorbed in Itachi's attack, Since now your saying it can be absorbed.

But it wasn't absorbed, Do you know why? becuase Preta path wasn't always active, Thus why it didn't absorbed totsuka.

You basically just owned your own argument, nice one.

This ^.
Also, if it was always active, he wouldn't have had to ST the black flames from him.

 

[Xāvî1]

Ok, let's get this straight.
The Totsuka blade is an ethereal blade that has no physical form. It is not made of anything but the chakra used to maintain Susano'o. don't deny this, Susano'o is pure chakra and the Totsuka blade is EXTREMELY similar in appearance and it is summoned with Susano'o, thus it is chakra in it's 'Purest' form.

BELOW IS FROM THE DATABOOK.

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The Totsuka Sword

It is a type of Kusanagi Sword, equipped with the power to throw the person it stabs into a genjutsu world of drunken dreams, sealing them for all eternity. The sword itself carries a fūinjutsu.

This shows that it's not the sword itself that seals, but the Fuinjutsu embedded into the sword. All jutsu, even sealing jutsu are chakra manipulated by the user ( In this case whomever placed the seal on the sword ).

Now, what jutsu counters any and all chakra based attacks?

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I believe that the use of the preta path would negate the sealing jutsu in the blade, if not simply dispelling the blade itself.


Now, some of you may be asking 'Then why didn't Nagato use it when he was stabbed?'
The same reason he didn't fly away using preta, the same reason he didn't summon something to take the hit and the same reason he didn't use rockets to move himself out of the way. PLOT.

Itachi's 'Invincible weapon' isn't so great.

If totsuka peirce's madara no.

 

[Mitarashi]

If totsuka peirce's madara no.

Totsuka's sealing jutsu is stripped as it hits Preta. then it's just a normal stab wound that edo's laugh at.