something alot of peaple seem to forget..

[osba]

..is that the bijuu will not make naruto as strong chakrawise as obito is now.. obito is the juubi's jinchuriki and the juubi uses nature energy... now we do not know the specific numbers as to how powerfull it is but seeing how naruto reacted when he measured it, it sure is ALOT stronger than the 1 to 7 tails combined...

 

[Transcendence]

Naruto with 1-7 and Kurama > Obito with 1-7 and miniscule portions of 8 and 9. Simple as that. Kurama is way too powerful, hinting he comprises far more than the rest of the Bijuu's in relation to the Juubi's coalescence.

 

[Sir Blades]

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[osba]

Naruto with 1-7 and Kurama > Obito with 1-7 and miniscule portions of 8 and 9. Simple as that. Kurama is way too powerful, hinting he comprises far more than the rest of the Bijuu's in relation to the Juubi's coalescence.

yes but the juubi, using nature energy, is WAY stronger than those 7 combined... so much it baffled naruto.. do you really think he would be baffled if it was only double the amount of chakra (energy) he uses? it is immeasurable.

 

[Transcendence]

yes but the juubi, using nature energy, is WAY stronger than those 7 combined... so much it baffled naruto.. do you really think he would be baffled if it was only double the amount of chakra (energy) he uses? it is immeasurable.

Naruto currently can use Sennin Modo as well... Not really a argument.

 

[2nd hokage]

I think you are wrong and right at the same time because nature or natural chakra is the ten tails weakness.

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

Whenever I see titles like these I just want to punch the OP's cheeks and tell him how cute he is by trying to be a big kid.

 

[osba]

Naruto currently can use Sennin Modo as well... Not really a argument.

it is clear that naruto's sage mode is inferior chakra wise.. i'm not sayign he won't be stronger battle-wise than obito.. i'm just putting it out there that the juubi's jin would be stronger chakra-wise.

Whenever I see titles like these I just want to punch the OP's cheeks and tell him how cute he is by trying to be a big kid.

cute

 

[Mr Hiru]

yes but the juubi, using nature energy, is WAY stronger than those 7 combined... so much it baffled naruto.. do you really think he would be baffled if it was only double the amount of chakra (energy) he uses? it is immeasurable.

We have to see this. Even if Juubi was way stronger using Nature Energy, Naruto could counter its most powerful attack with only Kurama's Cloak, and he didn't only protect himself, but the entire alliance. If Naruto would protect only himself, then his power would be far more focused... furthermore, Naruto was only in Bijuu Mode at that time, now Naruto has Bijuu Sage Mode.

I think you might be understimating Kurama's power.

 

[The Big Boss]

you forgot how to spell people


im joking

 

[osba]

you forgot how to spell people


im joking

omg your right xD
i should be ashamed of myself.. but i'm not X)

We have to see this. Even if Juubi was way stronger using Nature Energy, Naruto could counter its most powerful attack with only Kurama's Cloak, and he didn't only protect himself, but the entire alliance. If Naruto would protect only himself, then his power would be far more focused... furthermore, Naruto was only in Bijuu Mode at that time, now Naruto has Bijuu Sage Mode.

I think you might be understimating Kurama's power.

either kurama and naruto just under-estimated their own powers...

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or i guess i'm right ^.^ (obito was fighting not to kill, but to discourage)

 

[Naijakid]

Naruto will be stronger

 

[osba]

Naruto will be stronger

maybe... but not chakra-wise

 

[TheTrueJutsuMaster]

Naruto pawns all with his Main Character No Jutsu everyone! We all seem to forget this!

 

[Kronnic]

Naruto with 1-7 and Kurama > Obito with 1-7 and miniscule portions of 8 and 9. Simple as that. Kurama is way too powerful, hinting he comprises far more than the rest of the Bijuu's in relation to the Juubi's coalescence.

This right there ^^^^^^

 

[Mr Hiru]

omg your right xD
i should be ashamed of myself.. but i'm not X)


either kurama and naruto just under-estimated their own powers...

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or i guess i'm right ^.^ (obito was fighting not to kill, but to discourage)

And as I said before... Naruto awakened Bijuu Sage Mode. The context changed, so the statement you made up there must be updated as well.

Anyways, as you well said, you could be right.

 

[Senju Bean]

Naruto with 1-7 and Kurama > Obito with 1-7 and miniscule portions of 8 and 9. Simple as that. Kurama is way too powerful, hinting he comprises far more than the rest of the Bijuu's in relation to the Juubi's coalescence.

The Bijuu are merely keys to unlocking the true power, the Juubi. This is a case where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

If the overall charka of all nine seperately totals up to 100, then the Juubi alone has 1000. I just made those numbers up but you get the idea.

 

[Mr Hiru]

The Bijuu are merely keys to unlocking the true power, the Juubi. This is a case where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

If the overall charka of all nine seperately totals up to 100, then the Juubi alone has 1000. I just made those numbers up but you get the idea.

The yang half of Kurama was able to deflect the bijuu dama of 5 bijuu... from two to seven tails.

So taking in mind that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, we could safely assume that the Full Kyuubi is more powerful than the sum of one to seven tails.

 

[osba]

The yang half of Kurama was able to deflect the bijuu dama of 5 bijuu... from two to seven tails.

So taking in mind that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, we could safely assume that the Full Kyuubi is more powerful than the sum of one to seven tails.

yes but the juubi is stronger then those combined.. why would kurama say it is immeasurable? secondly, the bijuu sage mode only adds 33% chakrawise.... so CHAKRAWISE the juubi's jin would be stronger.

 

[Mr Hiru]

yes but the juubi is stronger then those combined.. why would kurama say it is immeasurable? secondly, the bijuu sage mode only adds 33% chakrawise.... so CHAKRAWISE the juubi's jin would be stronger.

And then again, Obito's Juubi isn't even complete. The fruit hasn't formed. Naruto doesn't have the full Kurama. We don't even know the proportion of power of each bijuu.

You are assuming way too much things... your statements are not conclusive.

I even could reference the Kurama on its weakest possible situation (sharing chakra with all SA) almost completely blocked Tenpenchii (this technique was executed by 1-7 tails + partial 8-9 tails). The cloak was anything but dense at that point, and still Naruto was able to save the alliance from one of the most powerful skills of the Juubi. Doesn't this tell you that Yang Kurama was understimating itself? Only half of kurama is incredibly strong, I still wonder what would do the Full Kurama.

So, I gave you the proof that only Half of Kurama was enough to fight the first stage of the Juubi, on its "unmeasurable state". And I told you about Naruto combining this power with Sage Mode.

How can you be so certain about him being weaker than Obito? Is there any explicit proof that concludes in absolute terms, that Bijuu Mode Naruto can't fight against Imperfect Jinchuuriki Obito?