the hyuugas can not stop amaterasu or susanoo

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part 1(amaterasu)

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ameterasu:The flames are capable of burning through mostly anything in their path, even smothering regular fire techniques with ease. Amaterasu is said to never stop burning; even when whatever is caught by the Amaterasu is completely reduced to ash or destroyed, it can still continue burning for seven days and seven nights. It cannot be extinguished with water or any other normal methods.

Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi is a technique which applies Shape Transformation to the black flames of Amaterasu, allowing the user to manipulate them at will. In Sasuke's case, while Amaterasu is cast from the his left eye, he uses his right eye to manipulate the flames

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kaiten: A secret taijutsu that is orally handed down only within the main house of the Hyūga, this technique utilises the chakra control gained through Gentle Fist training to release a huge amount of chakra from all the chakra points on the user's body.

all of those nejitards think that by doing this :
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or this
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he can escape or reflect amaterasu.
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1.Nagato was only able to push amaterasu away because of shinra tensei (he controlled the mass of the flames) and if it was a shock wave it would not have worked.
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2.Amaterasu can burn everything and even chakra
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3.So by releasing chakra from his body neji can stop amaterasu?don't make me laugh

part 2 (susanoo)

where those this neji wankers takes the idea that the hyuugas can stop susanoo ?
i will explain why this is a complete bullshit.

this neji wankers think that by doing this
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or this
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he can stop susanoo

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has susanoo been confirmed to be chakra in the manga?
the answer is no and BIG no . all we have about the susanoo is the naruto database book 3
which says that :chakra takes a physical form of formidable warrior.
Just because chakra takes a physical shape does not mean that susanoo is chakra, because if thats the case than when chakra takes the form of fire it would mean that fire is chakra. (when you use a katon the chakra takes the form of fire)
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this is the prove that susanoo is not chakra but actually it has chakra
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onoki says that the chakra of the monster has been stabilized

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and even if susanoo was chakra it still have a physical form which make the juuken useless and i will explain why. juuken can stop chakra flow and that is all
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but why did it not destroyed kidomaru golden metal (is based on chakra also)
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or help in this case
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i going to say why : just because you can stop water with water does not mean you can stop ice with water and that is pure logic .
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juuken can stop those thread because they have chakra flowing into them and susanoo does not have chakra flowing in it and i will say it one more time susanoo have a physical form or in other words susanoo is a physical object . (just because you can stop water with water does not mean that you can stop ice with water)
 

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Hyugas solo.dattebayo!
 
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Yes they can...

If they poke your eye :c
 

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Obvious shit...

Only the most stupid Hyuuga fans think that they can actually compete with a MS user.

I'm a Neji fan and i'll gladly admit that MS users are on a different level than him.
 

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Pretty obvious.

Amaterasu will land before a Hyuuga can even start Kaiten fully.
 

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Hakke Kusho calls amaterasu
 

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think hyugas can stop :|
 

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1.Nagato was only able to push amaterasu away because of shinra tensei (he controlled the mass of the flames) and if it was a shock wave it would not have worked.

i didnt understand this.

i think the reason why kaiten (or what was the name) wont help against amaterasu is because, it was stated that amaterasu burns for 7 days and nights, so a hyuuga can only survive if he keeps spinning for 7 days and nights.
 

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nice thread, but your wrong about sum thangz.

Susanno is charka, but idk if its solely charka based.

meaning idk if it can be absorbed, or stopped.


But the overall point is correct, although I do think someone like neji could have devolped ways to counter it.
 

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Really? This is obvious. Only the most blind of Hyuuga fans would believe they can counter Amaterasu if hit by it.

Although...wouldn't Air Palm be able to push Amaterasu back?
 

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nice thread, but your wrong about sum thangz.

Susanno is charka, but idk if its solely charka based.

meaning idk if it can be absorbed, or stopped.


But the overall point is correct, although I do think someone like neji could have devolped ways to counter it.

Oh what do we have here... So you're unbanned
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OT: Me it's pretty obvious, however you went full retard explaining why they can't.
 

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Congratulations. You remade your thread from before and added a more immature, disrespectful, degrading, and biased statement as you failed to analyze all of the Hyuga techs to the level of Amaterasu.


1. Jyuuken can destroy chakra. It's quite simple. Neji was able to grapple the thread and channel his chakra where Kidomaru's was. Thus, it destroys chakra.

2. Air palm and air wall palm are blasts of chakra. They also have destructive ability. If Amaterasu makes contact it burns the chakra not the Hyuga.

3. The Byakugan sees the movement and build up of chakra. The Byakugan is the msny insightful Dojutsu. Nagato could read Amaterasu far before it's use. A Hyuga could do the same but better. Thus, they have ample time to prepare air palm or Kaiten.

Since Amaterasu burns the chakra and not the person, since YOU YOURSELF claim it burns chakra, they block Amaterasu. Amaterasu is also noted to burn anything it touches not so much as burns through everything instantly. It's noted to burn slowly. Or else Karin would be dead.




4. Susanoo is a entity made from chakra. Jyuuken can destroy anything made from chakra as said in the manga.

5. Susanoo requires constant chakra to maintain. Thus, chakra has to be placed into the structure constantly else it would not exist. Why do you think Itachi died: ran out of chakra plus Ninja aids.

6. It can be destroyed by physical force: Tsunade and Horudora had no problem rag dolling it. Jinton destroyed it. Hiashi's Air Wall palm is the single most devastating Taijutsu move to be used so far. It blocked and pushed back the Juubi tail. Even more notable as Air palm is an equivalent of extended Jyuuken... Which oh yeah destroys things made from chakra.

7. Jyuuken could destroy the Water Prison which had no obvious source of chakra flowing through it.


Susanoo can be destroyed by Jyuuken.



Also, get a better analogy.


Highly pressurized water, extremely hot/boiling water, or high pressurized boiling water can break through ice.


But guess what: it all depends on factors.

1. Heat of water.

2. Composition of ice: dry ice vs regular ice vs synthesized ice

3. Temperature of water: cold, hot

4. Amount of pressure: high, low?

5. Thickness of the ice: Sliver of ice vs a Damn glacier.



By explaining your analogy far better, it's actually more obvious it does have the ability to deflect Amaterasu or defeat Susanoo. It is a combination of the following.

1. The Hyuga in action.

2. The Uchiha in action.

3. The scale in which air palm and rotation are used.

4. The scale in which Susanoo is used


It's all about factors. From what we've seen: Hiashi Hyuga has the scale to break any Susanoo without legs. Most likely one with legs like Hashirama's Mokuton clones. Perfect Susanoo is unlikely. If anything he can move it around/trip it so to speak.


It can.

1. Byakugan's ability to register chakra movement exceeds its other Dojutsu partners.

2. It's insight is better: meaning it can detect the pressure Nagato could.

3 Kaiten can have its scale increased and decreased.

A) Part I Neji had it slightly larger than himself.

B) Part II Neji could make it large enough to where it was sizeable on the Juubi's palm which is notably larger than Susanoo.

4. Amaterasu burns what it touches: here it would be chakra.

5. A Hyuga can cut that chakra link by canceling the chakra dispersion.


Conclusions:

1. Amaterasu burns the chakra, not the Hyuga using it.

2. Amaterasu is not just some entity that burns nothing and suddenly falls on people, it will burn the chakra it hit until it is gone. Thus, it will quickly burn outs it burns the faint remains of chakra.

3. Kaiten has the opposite effect in terms of drawing fire. While it would create a flaming storm around it, the release of chakra would repel air nearby Neji creating s vacuum. Fire cannot burn without air, and thus during the vacuum state, Amaterasu can't GET to a Hyuga.



Kaiten can block Amaterasu if it is established
 
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Congratulations. You remade your thread from before and added a more immature, disrespectful, degrading, and biased statement as you failed to analyze all of the Hyuga techs to the level of Amaterasu.


1. Jyuuken can destroy chakra. It's quite simple. Neji was able to grapple the thread and channel his chakra where Kidomaru's was. Thus, it destroys chakra.

2. Air palm and air wall palm are blasts of chakra. They also have destructive ability. If Amaterasu makes contact it burns the chakra not the Hyuga.

3. The Byakugan sees the movement and build up of chakra. The Byakugan is the msny insightful Dojutsu. Nagato could read Amaterasu far before it's use. A Hyuga could do the same but better. Thus, they have ample time to prepare air palm or Kaiten.

Since Amaterasu burns the chakra and not the person, since YOU YOURSELF claim it burns chakra, they block Amaterasu. Amaterasu is also noted to burn anything it touches not so much as burns through everything instantly. It's noted to burn slowly. Or else Karin would be dead.




4. Susanoo is a entity made from chakra. Jyuuken can destroy anything made from chakra as said in the manga.

5. Susanoo requires constant chakra to maintain. Thus, chakra has to be placed into the structure constantly else it would not exist. Why do you think Itachi died: ran out of chakra plus Ninja aids.

6. It can be destroyed by physical force: Tsunade and Horudora had no problem rag dolling it. Jinton destroyed it. Hiashi's Air Wall palm is the single most devastating Taijutsu move to be used so far. It blocked and pushed back the Juubi tail. Even more notable as Air palm is an equivalent of extended Jyuuken... Which oh yeah destroys things made from chakra.

7. Jyuuken could destroy the Water Prison which had no obvious source of chakra flowing through it.


Susanoo can be destroyed by Jyuuken.



Also, get a better analogy.


Highly pressurized water, extremely hot/boiling water, or high pressurized boiling water can break through ice.


But guess what: it all depends on factors.

1. Heat of water.

2. Composition of ice: dry ice vs regular ice vs synthesized ice

3. Temperature of water: cold, hot

4. Amount of pressure: high, low?

5. Thickness of the ice: Sliver of ice vs a Damn glacier.



By explaining your analogy far better, it's actually more obvious it does have the ability to deflect Amaterasu or defeat Susanoo. It is a combination of the following.

1. The Hyuga in action.

2. The Uchiha in action.

3. The scale in which air palm and rotation are used.

4. The scale in which Susanoo is used


It's all about factors. From what we've seen: Hiashi Hyuga has the scale to break any Susanoo without legs. Most likely one with legs like Hashirama's Mokuton clones. Perfect Susanoo is unlikely. If anything he can move it around/trip it so to speak.


It can.

1. Byakugan's ability to register chakra movement exceeds its other Dojutsu partners.

2. It's insight is better: meaning it can detect the pressure Nagato could.

3 Kaiten can have its scale increased and decreased.

A) Part I Neji had it slightly larger than himself.

B) Part II Neji could make it large enough to where it was sizeable on the Juubi's palm which is notably larger than Susanoo.

4. Amaterasu burns what it touches: here it would be chakra.

5. A Hyuga can cut that chakra link by canceling the chakra dispersion.


Conclusions:

1. Amaterasu burns the chakra, not the Hyuga using it.

2. Amaterasu is not just some entity that burns nothing and suddenly falls on people, it will burn the chakra it hit until it is gone. Thus, it will quickly burn outs it burns the faint remains of chakra.

3. Kaiten has the opposite effect in terms of drawing fire. While it would create a flaming storm around it, the release of chakra would repel air nearby Neji creating s vacuum. Fire cannot burn without air, and thus during the vacuum state, Amaterasu can't GET to a Hyuga.



Kaiten can block Amaterasu if it is established
hahahahahahahaha bulshit of hardcore wanker
susanoo
1. susanoo is made of chakra ? where is the proof?
what we know is that he have chakra
2. jyuuken is chakra release and chojuro's sword is chakra release and did not work on the susanoo (juken does not work on the susanoo).
3 . even if susanoo have chakra flowing in it you cant get to it because of it's surface ,which is donton nature or even harder.
amaterasu
air palm wall against amaterasu?
.hahahahahahahahahahahaha that would mean the end of any hyuuga if you hadn't realized yet air make fire stronger (amaterasu is fire)
amaterasu burn the chakra and proceed to the hyuuga and game over.
 
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i didnt understand this.

i think the reason why kaiten (or what was the name) wont help against amaterasu is because, it was stated that amaterasu burns for 7 days and nights, so a hyuuga can only survive if he keeps spinning for 7 days and nights.

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1.amaterasu can burn chakra
2. Hakke Kusho would make amaterasu stronger and bigger (GG neji).
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Uchihareborn207 made some good points. However, here is what could happen in a Sasuke vs. Neji situation.

Sasuke: (shoots an enton arrow or enton yasaka magatama).
Neji: Deflects it with rotation.
Sasuke: Hits Neji with the instant amaterasu that just ignites the opponent on sight at the exact moment that neji gets done spinning from the first attack.

Battle over
 

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Uchihareborn207 made some good points. However, here is what could happen in a Sasuke vs. Neji situation.

Sasuke: (shoots an enton arrow or enton yasaka magatama).
Neji: Deflects it with rotation.
Sasuke: Hits Neji with the instant amaterasu that just ignites the opponent on sight at the exact moment that neji gets done spinning from the first attack.

Battle over

enton arrow gg neji and his puny kaiten
 

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Sorry I typed the wrong name. I actually agree with Uchihareborn207. I meant to say KGB Kakazu.

it's funny because when am about to start a debate against that hardcore wanker called KGB Kakazu he runs away.
 
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