The Ōtsutsuki Tribe Becoming The Uzumaki Clan

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Part 1:

Nunoboko was said to have created the world (not ex nihilo but created the world by reshaping it since the world was already in existence before Hagoromo's birth) and the blade was based on Amenonuhoko, the heavenly jewelled spear used by Izanami and Izanagi:



From a Manga in-universe perspective, this could give a possible hint of how the Otsutsuki Tribe became the Uzumaki Clan

Amenunuhoko was used to create the mythical Onogoro Island which became the abode of Izanami and Izanagi:



The island was said to be located in one of the islands near Awajishima, where the Naruto strait and Naruto whirlpools are located (between Awajishima and Shikoku)

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This is most probably Kishimoto's inspiration for Uzu no Kuni or Uzushiogakure

Like I hypothesized before, the Otsutsuki bloodline and the Uzumaki bloodline are one and the same, the surname simply changed over time, but the bloodline remains the same:



Hagoromo, when he refashioned the world, used the sword to create Uzushio and placed the Otsutsuki Kingdom/Tribe there, only then did they assume the name of the Uzumaki Clan inspired from their new abode. This was probably done as a way to isolate them for their safety since they were the keepers of Rikudou's seals:

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Remember the Naruto Bridge in the Zabuza Arc? the one built after Gato's defeat that connects the Land of Waves with the Land of Fire, and was named in honor of Naruto?
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Amenonuhoko - Created Onogoro Island

Nunoboko (inspired from Amenonuhoko) - Created a mythical island (Uzushiogakure)

Onogoro- found somewhere between Naruto City and Awaji

Uzushio - found between Land of Fire and Land of Waves.

So it means that the Uzumakis didn't always live there, only when Hagoromo created the Island with Nunoboko and the Uzumakis settled there did they assume the Uzumaki Surname based on their new home, so prior to settling in Uzushio the Uzumakis have a different surname which is most probably Ohtsutsuki

And that is why the Uzumaki Clan is the only clan who based their surname on their geographical location, because prior to the creation of Uzushio and prior to settling there, they had a different surname: Ōtsutsuki
So, if the Uzumakis only assumed the surname when they relocated in Uzushio, then where was their original abode?

Which leads to the second part of my hypothesis: The Uzumaki's original homeland when they were still using the Ohtsutsuki surname was the Land of Lightning

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If you look at the second picture very closely you can see that Kin and Gin's hair were not really their hair, their "hair" along with their horns are their headdresses modeled from the Japanese "Shaguma" and you can clearly see they're merely artificial headwear since its material resembles the Sage's Banana Fan.

Kin and Gin's ancestors were probably a renegade faction of the Ohzuzukis who refused the Exodus to Uzushio

I wouldn't be surprised if Kishimoto put those headdresses on them, not only to distinguish them from one another, but also to hide their real hair color: red
 

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1.) I skimmed because I can't follow real world connections very long.
2.) I agree, however.
3.) Awesome signature.
4.) Keep up the good work. Nice to see you back after so long.
 

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Seriously, as much as I'd like to believe this, and as much as I supported the idea in the past, I really don't think having this plot twist of the Sage's clan becoming the Uzumaki is really needed tbh

Edit: It's still possible though, not saying it isn't, I just don't really believe it is.
 

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Seriously, as much as I'd like to believe this, and as much as I supported the idea in the past, I really don't think having this plot twist of the Sage's clan becoming the Uzumaki is really needed tbh

Why add all of the connections and have the sage as some random person?
 

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I cba to read, so I have no comment, but that sig is amazing haha. I'll edit this post with my opinion in a bit.
 

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The sig. is already been used by someone else on here, what's going on >.>

OT: maybe
 

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Grasping for straws Obito?

Eh, I dunno- whilst this theory isn't impossible, this twists also seems very unnecessary. Nah.

P.s You really gotta sort out that avatar :')
 

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Part 1:

Nunoboko was said to have created the world (not ex nihilo but created the world by reshaping it since the world was already in existence before Hagoromo's birth) and the blade was based on Amenonuhoko, the heavenly jewelled spear used by Izanami and Izanagi:



From a Manga in-universe perspective, this could give a possible hint of how the Otsutsuki Tribe became the Uzumaki Clan

Amenunuhoko was used to create the mythical Onogoro Island which became the abode of Izanami and Izanagi:



The island was said to be located in one of the islands near Awajishima, where the Naruto strait and Naruto whirlpools are located (between Awajishima and Shikoku)

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This is most probably Kishimoto's inspiration for Uzu no Kuni or Uzushiogakure

Like I hypothesized before, the Otsutsuki bloodline and the Uzumaki bloodline are one and the same, the surname simply changed over time, but the bloodline remains the same:



Hagoromo, when he refashioned the world, used the sword to create Uzushio and placed the Otsutsuki Kingdom/Tribe there, only then did they assume the name of the Uzumaki Clan inspired from their new abode. This was probably done as a way to isolate them for their safety since they were the keepers of Rikudou's seals:

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Part 2:

Remember the Naruto Bridge in the Zabuza Arc? the one built after Gato's defeat that connects the Land of Waves with the Land of Fire, and was named in honor of Naruto?
Well:

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Amenonuhoko - Created Onogoro Island

Nunoboko (inspired from Amenonuhoko) - Created a mythical island (Uzushiogakure)

Onogoro- found somewhere between Naruto City and Awaji

Uzushio - found between Land of Fire and Land of Waves.

So it means that the Uzumakis didn't always live there, only when Hagoromo created the Island with Nunoboko and the Uzumakis settled there did they assume the Uzumaki Surname based on their new home, so prior to settling in Uzushio the Uzumakis have a different surname which is most probably Ohtsutsuki

And that is why the Uzumaki Clan is the only clan who based their surname on their geographical location, because prior to the creation of Uzushio and prior to settling there, they had a different surname: Ōtsutsuki
So, if the Uzumakis only assumed the surname when they relocated in Uzushio, then where was their original abode?

Which leads to the second part of my hypothesis: The Uzumaki's original homeland when they were still using the Ohtsutsuki surname was the Land of Lightning

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If you look at the second picture very closely you can see that Kin and Gin's hair were not really their hair, their "hair" along with their horns are their headdresses modeled from the Japanese "Shaguma" and you can clearly see they're merely artificial headwear since its material resembles the Sage's Banana Fan.

Kin and Gin's ancestors were probably a renegade faction of the Ohzuzukis who refused the Exodus to Uzushio

I wouldn't be surprised if Kishimoto put those headdresses on them, not only to distinguish them from one another, but also to hide their real hair color: red

Well when you put it that way...
 

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You already created that thread Derp. No, they didn't become the Uzumaki clan. Why? Because the Uzumaki are from the Senju lineage why having nothing to do with the Uchiha. The Manga reached its climax and is near the end. Rikudo Sennin was portrayed to be the originator of Uchiha and Senju. Why didn't Kishimoto reveal that the Rikudo Sennin or the Otsutsuki were Uzumaki or their ancestors? Because it simply isn't true. Because Kishimoto wouldn't hide such a significant information.
 

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Grasping for straws Obito?

Eh, I dunno- whilst this theory isn't impossible, this twists also seems very unnecessary. Nah.

P.s You really gotta sort out that avatar :')

The Kin and Gin brothers were said to be distantly related to RS, and that they display Uzumaki traits like Naruto, and yet they live in the Land of Lightning.
 

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Wouldn't it be more reasonable that the Sage chose to leave his jutsu to the descendant that he chose to succeed him. The Uzamaki have the sage's life force the Senju have his physical power, together they make up what was given to the Younger Son. These symbols were probably created by the Sage and have connection to his teachings of Ninjutsu. Uzamaki's were probably the clan that chose to oversee the Kyuubi and look after the bijuu kyuubi as the Sage's descendants.

I like the Gin and Kin parts very creative.
 
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You already created that thread Derp. No, they didn't become the Uzumaki clan. Why? Because the Uzumaki are from the Senju lineage why having nothing to do with the Uchiha. The Manga reached its climax and is near the end. Rikudo Sennin was portrayed to be the originator of Uchiha and Senju. Why didn't Kishimoto reveal that the Rikudo Sennin or the Otsutsuki were Uzumaki or their ancestors? Because it simply isn't true. Because Kishimoto wouldn't hide such a significant information.

Are you serious? Not 10 chapters ago we learned that the juubi was originally a tree that was revered as a god until it uprooted and attacked humanity for stealing its fruit...? Not a big enough twist for you? Seems significant enough.
 

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There is a great misconception in Zetsu's statement in chapter 606 saying that Nagato is a descendant of the Senjus because he is of Senju Lineage:

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It is not Zetsu's statement that is erroneous but the interpretation of others, if we take the translation of lineage based on the context of Zetsu's statement in conjunction with Kushina's statement in a previous chapter, the most accurate meaning of lineage, based on context, is the anthropological definition of the word: Kinship/Consanguinity:

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Kushina said the Uzumakis and Senjus were distant relatives, the true intended meaning of the word "lineage" based on the context of Zetsu's statement was : Consanguine of being related by blood, not Nagato descending from the Senjus : Nagato is a blood relative (lineage) of the Senju.

If the Senjus and Uzumakis descended from the same ancestor (Younger Son) then they will be close/immediate relatives, not distant relatives like Kushina said, which would contradict her statement and Manga canon, so it's logical to assume that the present day Uzumakis are "cousins" to both Senju and Uchiha since they did not descend from Rikudou himself but from Rikudou's relatives.

Also the original Japanese text of Zetsu in 606 is this:

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The original Japanese word that Zetsu used was "血縁" or Ketsuen which translates as "Blood Relative" NOT 子孫 or Shison which means descendant.

Anyone who can read Japanese will tell you that Zetsu's statement only meant blood relations but not pertaining to descent:

Sorry Sasuke2, but you're wrong. Try to read original Japanese manga Naruto especially if your theory is based on one word. Here:
Here we have chapter you mentioned (Chapter 606):
Now carefully look at Zetsu's words. Ser Derp Obito is right about this chapter. Zetsu used word 血縁 written in hiragana like this けつえん. And this word has only two meanings:
1) blood relative or relationship
2) consanguinity
 
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Are you serious? Not 10 chapters ago we learned that the juubi was originally a tree that was revered as a god until it uprooted and attacked humanity for stealing its fruit...? Not a big enough twist for you? Seems significant enough.

In all seriousness, that just follows many different religions and mythologies. It's not that much of a twist when you realize how much Kishi relates his manga to mythology.
 
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In all seriousness, that just follows many different religions. It's not that much of a twist when you realize how much Kishi relates his manga to mythology.

Well, prepare to be even more surprised:



Unbeknownst to many, the Shinigami of the Reaper Death Seal is a woman:

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The Reaper is a Hannya Demon who are all females and solely females.

The Shinigami is also a priestess holding a prayer beads and reciting a prayer before commencing the sealing ritual:

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The Reaper's initial stance with it arms spread is a clerical/priestly stance:

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Like Rikūdou/Hagoromo's stance:

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It was established and well known by now that the Shiki Fūjin required Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Tablet as the catalyst for the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Reaper:

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It is because the Shiki Fūjin is Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Jutsu

and the Reaper is Kaguya Ōtsutsuki, Rikūdo/Hagoromo's mother:

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As to why Kaguya became the Shinigami of the Shiki Fūjin, Kishimoto has not yet explained or revealed why, either as an end effect of eating the Shinju's fruit or as a mother's sacrifice to aid her son in fighting the Jūbi.

 

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Well, prepare to be even more surprised:



Unbeknownst to many, the Shinigami of the Reaper Death Seal is a woman:

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The Reaper is a Hannya Demon who are all females and solely females.

The Shinigami is also a priestess holding a prayer beads and reciting a prayer before commencing the sealing ritual:

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The Reaper's initial stance with it arms spread is a clerical/priestly stance:

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Like Rikūdou/Hagoromo's stance:

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It was established and well known by now that the Shiki Fūjin required Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Tablet as the catalyst for the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Reaper:

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It is because the Shiki Fūjin is Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Jutsu

and the Reaper is Kaguya Ōtsutsuki, Rikūdo/Hagoromo's mother:

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As to why Kaguya became the Shinigami of the Shiki Fūjin, Kishimoto has not yet explained or revealed why, either as an end effect of eating the Shinju's fruit or as a mother's sacrifice to aid her son in fighting the Jūbi.


That all makes sense, except for it being the Sage's mother. As of right now, is that any more than a guess? Not to be rude, but I don't see anything relating her to being a priest rather than a queen. I'm not ignorant though, I'm open to anything else you have to say.
 
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For the record I do believe the Shinigami is the Sages Mum. That's a very smart connection I haven't seen before.
 
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