Uzumaki are the senju ancestors -common sense

[Shinobi2012]

"Uzumaki and Senju are distant blood relatives." as Kushina told Naruto.

If Uzumaki were as close as you say from Senju , Kushina won't say "distant".

It was zetsu who said it to obito not kushina saying it to naruto.

And kishi is being vague as to not spoil the connection.

Besides if you read the thread you should know that being a descendant of the senju would not allow nagato to use the rinnegan because the progenitor gene needs to be there and a progenitor gene is not found in descendants.

A progenitor gene is formed when the exact dna they split apart is brought back together.
And even then it might not take form because there is a whole generation gap between the sage and the uchiha and senju.

So either you need uchiha and senju dna or you need dna that is closer to the sage.
a.k.a. the uchiha and senju ancestor dna.
You can't use dna from a descending family.It doesn't work that way.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Uzumakis are the senjus cousins.​

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I'm just going to post an image of what this guy said Lol

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[JIRAIYA perv]

"no need to get on the defensive, it's all good, i'll let you go back to that "common sense" of your's (showing of Manga info ............ really ??? specially when you got it wrong lol)."

So now that we have that out of the way.(I guess yo momentarily got amnesia ?)

Anyway i already or should i say kishi already explicitly stated you need the progenitor gene to have the rinnegan.
I will not waste my time repeating what makes up a progenitor gene (You didn't read the thread so that is your loss)
And we know obito sought nagato.Because he was related to the senju,because you need the right dna.

If you do not have the correct genes you cannot/sustain or awaken the rinnegan.

Let me cut you off here because i know your going to say something about the sharingan and once again it is not progenitor gene there is no specific make up to awaken the sharingan other then being a uchiha.

It is a self sustained dojustu of the uchiha.

The rinnegan was the sages whose dna was split and therefore the rinengan needs that specific dna.


Are we destined to dance this eternal dance ?

Me correcting your movements every step of the way ?

If we keep going like this then by evening our waltz will be the most beautiful thing to grace the dance floor don't you agree ?

ok i think it's about time to drop the attitude and i asked for scans (to help you prove your points), you don't need to help me, i know this stuff well thank you (i'll bite means taking this seriously, read the thread).

scans please about Obito seeking Nagato for the right gene's (for what ??, Madara already planted the Rinnegan on Nagato, it was up to Obito to just find the Rinnegan's host).

to awaken the Rinnegan you need Senju DNA + Uchiha/sharingan (the only one who unlocked it was Madara), but nothing was ever said about the requirements to be able use/sustain it, if there is again show me the scans.

even Nagato's hair turned white as a side affect from the power of the Rinnegan unlike Obito/Madara which means that he lacked the requirements to unlock it yet was able to use a portion of it's power at a price.

aside from what the rest said and the Manga confirming that the SAGE wasn't an Uzumaki/that ridiculous theory (yet stated that the Uzumaki are distant relatives to the Senju clan, came after the Sage/Senju/Uchiha), am trying here ........................... i want the scans that states the requirements to sustain the Rinnegan and use it's power.

having an attitude/being childish is something but, having an attitude and insisting on BS is too much U_U.

 

[davidou]

"Seems like u got some point. But we know there were no any shinobi(who can use chakra/have special powers) clans before SO6P was born"

They just couldn't use chakra.People could still use and manipulate spirtual energy and perform super human like feats through their psychical energy.

And no the uchiha and senju are not direct descendants of the sage.

The direct descendants of the sage are the ancestors of both the uchiha and the senju.

And kishi only said the senju and uzumaki are distant relatives.
He never states that they are direct descendants of the senju or even descendants period.

Shinobis can exist even if they don't use chakra.Nothing tells us that nobody was able to use natural energy.

Chakra=spiritual+physical , if they could mùanipulate spiritual energy they could mix chakra...

Have you read the manga?

 

[VongolaX]

Ya but funny enough hashirama's dad the real leader of the senju is older than all the uzamaki a combined.

Uzamaki is not a direct descendant of the sage, obito repeated that 5 times already.

 

[Erebus]

Not this crap again. Your whole priest theory is BS, only SO6P had chakra at that time, so no other person, priest or bandit could do fuinjutsu. Nagato's denning an was implanted like Kakashi's Sharingan, now if he truly had uchiha and senju DNAs I'm pretty sure Naruto won't be alive to fight Obito, honestly I highly doubt Uzumaki was one of the sages 2 sons, but whatever float ur boat. I could give u more fact but sadly I don't have the time

 

[VongolaX]

Uzamaki's served just as a tools used by the senju and especially the uchiha's.

Hashirama has his wife seal the beast

Uchiha madara uses Nagato for rinn tensei

Obito extracts the nine tails for uchiha control and allows the beast to kill its host

Obito manipulates Nagato

Sasuke had naruto **** ride him all through the series

 

[Paintry4]

They just couldn't use chakra.People could still use and manipulate spirtual energy and perform super human like feats through their psychical energy.

And no the uchiha and senju are not direct descendants of the sage.

The direct descendants of the sage are the ancestors of both the uchiha and the senju.

And kishi only said the senju and uzumaki are distant relatives.
He never states that they are direct descendants of the senju or even descendants period.

Ahh...where did you found the people before the era of SO6P cud use spiritual power and cud perform super human like feats? Go with the story of Genuine Naruto Manga not ur own imagination. Its been already declared in story SO6P was not an Uzumaki nor his son. Got it?? Or go write ur thread on spoilers or predictions.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Ahh...where did you found the people before the era of SO6P cud use spiritual power and cud perform super human like feats? Go with the story of Genuine Naruto Manga not ur own imagination. Its been already declared in story SO6P was not an Uzumaki nor his son. Got it?? Or go write ur thread on spoilers or predictions.

nothing new, it's a theory based on another theory to patch it up ...................... i don't know why they keep clinging to these fanmade stuff :'( even when proven wrong from the writer himself.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

nothing new, it's a theory based on another theory to patch it up ...................... i don't know why they keep clinging to these fanmade stuff :'( even when proven wrong from the writer himself.

If you think Kishimoto kept the Uzumaki Clan hidden for so long only to reveal them later (as many of you already assumed) as an off-shoot of the Younger Son and the Senjus then you are sorely mistaken because from a writer's standpoint that would be very anti-climactic Lol

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

If you think Kishimoto kept the Uzumaki Clan hidden for so long only to reveal them later (as many of you already assumed) as an off-shoot of the Younger Son and the Senjus then you are sorely mistaken because from a writer's standpoint that would be very anti-climactic Lol

-Derp- strop it, it's over bro U_U no need to fuss.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

-Derp- strop it, it's over bro U_U no need to fuss.

You shall see

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

You shall see

can't believe you're still on about this lol well ....... am too broke to bet (wish i could) ....................... but you know what's gonna happen (don't fuss again when it does).

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Juubi >>> thread :I nuff said

 

[Paintry4]

Shinobis can exist even if they don't use chakra.Nothing tells us that nobody was able to use natural energy.

Chakra=spiritual+physical , if they could mùanipulate spiritual energy they could mix chakra...

Have you read the manga?

i know about shinobi. Shinobis are like mutants having special feats and powers. It is not necessary for a shinobi that they sud use chakra. They can have their powers. But Naruto manga is not like that. Whole Naruto anime is based on Hand seals ,doujutsu n taijutsu that consumes chakra/stamina. But those whole chakaras were 1st of bijuu(progenitor). Before the era of SO6P neither it is stated nor it'll that there were people who cud use chakra in manga. The concept of chakra was 1st discovered by so6P. How cud someone fly a plane if nobody knows its concept??

 

[rollin]

I have no clue in what that even means in regard to this thread.

What makes him senju like is the fact that their related.

uzumaki are known for having strong psychical bodies like the senju.

But,the uzumaki also have a strong vitality that lets them live unusually long.

Which the senju do not have.

naruto an uzumaki needs more yang chakra to be like a senju
in other words the uzumaki are weaker than the senju because their more distantly related to the sage than the senju

 

[Kishi Uzumaki]

What if second son had a daughter other than first senju or first senju had a daughter and she married a uzumaki .