Uzumaki are the senju ancestors -common sense

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The sage was a priest (The era before ninja is clearly the warren state era as evdidence of their clothing.
It was not uncommon at all to see traveling monks and priest defending humans against demons and evil spirits.
With that being said the sage sealed(Funinjustu)the juubi.

He went on to have two sons.

One inherited the psychical energy(Yang) of the sage and his good will.(Peace through love)



The uzumaki are known for their funinjustu and have a strong vitality,it grants them longevity

(That is how powerful their life force is)

Another prospect of their strong bodies is their selection to being jinchuuriki EVERY SINGLE TIME IN THE LEAF.


And every uzumaki has been shown to survive the extraction something which has been pointed out to kill you.You die if your tailed beast is extracted........Uzumaki don't.

Now here we see the senju and uzumaki.The uzumaki are already know to live long lives.Here is a pictre of hashirama senju and the uzumaki clan leader.The uzumaki clan leader is clearly older then hashirama.Way older.By extension every uzumaki is most likely to live longer then any senju.This should be somewhat proof that the uzumaki have been around longer or at that point.

This son or shall i say the uzumaki clan kept in touch with their descendants the senju.
The evidence is clear.The uzumaki have always been the host for kurama.ALWAYS.

Are we going to say that the senju gave birth to a greater clan endowed with MORE psyhcal energy then itself ?No it is the other way around.The uzumaki gave birth to the senju and the senju came to have powerfl psyhical bodies but,did not retain the longevity of the uzumaki.When new clans are born they don't get more traits.Traits get diluted.It is common sense.All you need as evidence is the uchiha ancestor dojustu to the uchiha dojustu.

So here it is the sage had two sons one inherited (UZUMAKI)the body oF the sage.

The other,the uchiha ancestor inherited his spiritual energy and the more or less attributes from the juubi itself (This is why they can control tailed beast they share the same chakra origins)and jealous of his brother used the idea of power to bring peace.This caused a rift and they did not keep in touch and eventually became rivals.

And lastly the rinnegan is made up of the progenitor gene kishi made it clear and even tittled a chapter called "PROGENITOR"

Now a progenitor gene will not rise with diluted blood or dna.It needs the exact dna to make it happen.

Uchiha + senju make a rinnnegan.(Not all the time mind you,obito never awakened one)

But,nagato was ablet to use it.How is that so ?

A progenitor gene is formed when the exact dna they split apart is brought back together.
And even then it might not take form because there is a whole generation gap between the sage and the uchiha and senju.

So either you need uchiha and senju dna or you need dna that is closer to the sage.
a.k.a. the uchiha and senju ancestor dna.
You can't use dna from a descending family.It doesn't work that way.
 
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It is quite suspect that the Feats of Uzumaki's are greater than that of the Senju in regards to their vitality.
 

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I just want to know more about my favorite clan , it's pissing me off that Kishi is not telling us anything .
 

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Remember if the uzumaki were descendants like some idiots believe then the dna would be further diluted and thus he could not use the rinnegan.You need senju and uchiha dna or dna that is even closer to the sages own dna.

OOOOOOW. ouch

anyway...

I think its like this

Uzumaki > Rikudo > uchiha and senju.

Uzumaki > today's uzumaki clan or what's remaining of them
 

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ok, nice info... Let's see if this hit soon to the story. I 70% believe some point of this (not all).
 

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I just want to know more about my favorite clan , it's pissing me off that Kishi is not telling us anything .

He is keeping it vague.

Like the time he has obito state the senju and uzmaki are distant relatives instead of just flat out saying the uzumaki are descendants of the senju.

It would contradict the whole inclusion of the progenitor gene if you didn't actually need senju dna if you could just go get dna from any clan that came after it.
 

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You need more evidences to prove this, why not to wait till manga confirms it??:yeah:
 

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He is keeping it vague.

Like the time he has obito state the senju and uzmaki are distant relatives instead of just flat out saying the uzumaki are descendants of the senju.

It would contradict the whole inclusion of the progenitor gene if you didn't actually need senju dna if you could just go get dna from any clan that came after it.

The Thread Title :I
 
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sorry :( couldn't keep reading after i saw this :

"The uzumaki clan leader is clearly older then hashirama.Way older.By extension every uzumaki is most likely to live longer then any senju.This should be somewhat proof that the uzumaki have been around longer or at that point."

btw Uzumaki's have NOT been always "hosts to Kurama" (i seriously don't wanna be rude but, i DEMAND removing the "common sense" from the thread title).
 

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sorry :( couldn't keep reading after i saw this :

"The uzumaki clan leader is clearly older then hashirama.Way older.By extension every uzumaki is most likely to live longer then any senju.This should be somewhat proof that the uzumaki have been around longer or at that point."

btw Uzumaki's have NOT been always "hosts to Kurama".

Technically the Uzumaki's have always been hosts to Kurama.

All three hosts were Uzumaki. Just putting that out there :p
 

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Technically the Uzumaki's have always been hosts to Kurama.

All three hosts were Uzumaki. Just putting that out there :p

lol name them and tell me what you notice ................... you already know this :p (that started at Hashirama's time, not before it).
 

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No the senjus came first
Nagato could only control the rinnegan because he's related to the senjus
It takes naruto all of kuramas yang chakra to be comparable to hashi
Tsunade said since obito had hashis DNA he might be immortal meaning hashi had longevity as well
 

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lol name them and tell me what you notice ................... you already know this :p (that started at Hashirama's time, not before it).

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There are no confirmed Jin's prior to Hashirama's era. Madara originally found the Kyuubi roaming on its own.
 

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sorry :( couldn't keep reading after i saw this :

"The uzumaki clan leader is clearly older then hashirama.Way older.By extension every uzumaki is most likely to live longer then any senju.This should be somewhat proof that the uzumaki have been around longer or at that point."

btw Uzumaki's have NOT been always "hosts to Kurama" (i seriously don't wanna be rude but, i DEMAND removing the "common sense" from the thread title).

If you can't be bothered to read all of it then yo obviously can't weigh your uninformed opinion huh ?
 

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There are no confirmed Jin's prior to Hashirama's era. Madara originally found the Kyuubi roaming on its own.

true, i think i misunderstood what you meant :sweat:

anyways to the OP : no offence but, when you say something like "what some idiots believe" then i can't take this seriously, and again i DEMAND removing the "common sense" from the thread title U_U.
 

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The Thread Title :I

This is the second time your misunderstood what i said

I said it was not uncommon for priest to gdhDGHGDH blah,blah what ever said.

Not Uncommon means it was a normal sight to see.

And the other post of mine i said "That is why kishi did NOT HAVE obito flat out say the uzumaki are the descendants of the senju"

I am guess English is not your first language /: ?
 

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If you can't be bothered to read all of it then yo obviously can't weigh your uninformed opinion huh ?

"uninformed opinion" huh (what a cool comeback), sure thing dude (didn't know that this was a competition, specially in a fail of a theory) :yeah:

you actually finished with "why Nagato could use the Rinnegan", do you know the difference between using it and awakening it ??
 
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