obito Fans

[Clouds]

So you must hate all the villains?

Nah i liked a few that weren't hypocrites...

 

[Optimistic]

You do realize that Rin is the only person that was always there for Obito. Obito had never had a family. Only Rin he had.

I kinda feel sorry for Obito went through. Not to mention that he had a fcking rock crushing his body and made him ugly. I am starting to think what Obito has done is pretty much fair.

He is doing it for Rin and greater good. Just like Madara.

i was gettin all emotional but the ugly bit made me lool like a retard.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

There really is no difference between Madara and Obito's case, if all they wanted was to personally be with Rin or Izuna then they would've just attached themselves to the Gedo Mazo and live in lalala land by themselves. No, what they are doing is an idealism born from personal tragedy, they are on a crusade to help the world (in their own morally questionable way) by liberating the entirety of humanity from the wheel of suffering.

 

[Flawž]

Nah i liked a few that weren't hypocrites...

aww did a fictional character get under your skin? Look's like kishi made you butthurt with a touch of his pen.

 

[Clouds]

So Madara turned evil because he thought that the Senju were acting like they were superior to the Uchiha and he wanted to take over the leaf because of that, but his fellow Uchihas disagreed? =/


Rin only made him open up his eyes as to what Madara was telling him. It's a stupid reason to hate on Obito because he loves Rin.



Eh, Obito wouldn't have done that if Madara didn't exist. Madara is the one who made him a bat shit crazy person that thinks putting everyone to sleep and killing a ton of people is the right way so basically you should be hating on Madara and not on Obito. ._.

hmm... still Obito isn't stupid he should have seen it coming though :l
But still i don't know madara's past yet or for what reasons he did that.
I guess il just have to wait for that. :l

 

[Bronze]

This is why i believe Madara is good person:

So i would like to state my own reasons why i believe Madara is not really a bad guy like some people think he is, so please try to understand and don't be annoying or troll, just give your own reasons that's all.

SO ENJOY​

What is Madara's Ultimate Goal? we all know. it is to be become the juubi jinchuriki and by using its great power, he can cast a genjutsu on the world where he will control everyone by giving them their dreams and everything they wish. its basically Heaven. If you ask me, and in my own opinion, i think that is a good idea. Not only by this Wars and hatred will be gone forever, but also you have an absolute happiness, good, world of winners as Madara described it:

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It is the life you can ever wish. Yes i know most of you if not all will disagree with me but do you really think people are gonna ever understand each other like Jiraiya foolish ideal or Naruto erasing everyone's hatred and then that is it, wow peace has finally existed. Please don't be foolish, people will never understand each other no matter what. why? because we are stupid. What Madara is doing is to force everyone to understand each other by genjutsu. yes its against their will but that's how you can achieve true peace IMHO.

Moving own...now that we know Madara goal is, we can easily justify his actions. So lets to take it to another step:

Peace is a state of harmony characterized by the lack of violence, conflict behaviors and the freedom from fear of violence

^ this is what Madara really wants, i am pretty sure all people want peace but if you were to achieve peace, you're gonna have to require as much as power as you can as well as sacrifice the most important things. Madara had to do as much as he can so he can achieve peace:

1-His bother gave him his eyes so he can awaken a greater power which is EMS.
2-Face Hashirama Senju to battle of death so he can steal his DNA for greater power.
3-Awakened the Rinnegan to summon Gedo Mazo where everything will start form now.
4-Lived so long, long enough to meet his successor who will lead the world to true peace.

But of course, Madara had to kill a lot of people and sacrifice all for the sake of Peace. Madara all of his strength away just for the sake peace, he lived century + in pain and suffering just for the sake of peace, gave his knowledge and power to Obito so he can achieve peace.

Madara had to do unbelievable number of things for greater good of course. Lets see how Hashirama describes a shinobi:

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Shinobi are the people who have to do anything so they can achieve their dreams and what has Madara been doing all of time? he done everything so he can achieve his dream which is to bring true peace on the world.

1-Hashirama killed uchiha and many many many people so he can achieve his dream which is balance the power between all ninjas to achieve peace.

2-Nagato killed women + babies + old people and destroyed everything so he can achieve peace through the ultimate forbidden jutsu to bring peace.

3-Itachi killed his own family and clan so war happen which will kill people, therefore taking the idea of achieving peace.

^^ all of you are gonna agree that these 3 examples are good people but so is Madara, he is good person who wants to achieve peace but in a different which is the definition of shinobi. Everyone do things in their own way so they can achieve their goals.

Madara is indeed a good hearted person who wants to erase hatred and sadness and build a world of true happiness:

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i have edited this thread to strengthen my argument and my belief why Madara is indeed not evil because of today's chapter.

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as you can see, Madara did became like this because of how the shinobi system has been cursed because of the fruit that grants great power which leads to others get berserk and fight against each other. very same reason to Obito.

i kinda of agree with Madara because this shinobi system has twisted many people like:

1-Sasuke
2-Nagato because of the shinobi wars
3-Obito(

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4-Kisame thought the world was a lie

so many people have became twisted by the shinobi system. Madara's actions are justified due to the fact this system will keep on going and many deaths will happen and lead to wars yet again. Madara wants to prevent that. Madara doesn't want this to happen. how can he be a bad guy? Madara is going all of this is because he wants peace.


Conclusion = Madara is good person who wants peace and he wants to achieve it but in different way.

Thank You...Madara Rules

Obito is doing the same as Madara.

 

[Flawž]

There really is no difference between Madara and Obito's case, if all they wanted was to personally be with Rin or Izuna then they would've just attached themselves to the Gedo Mazo and live in lalala land. No, what they are doing is an idealism born from personal tragedy, they are on a crusade to help the world (in their own morally questionable way) by liberating the entirety of humanity from the wheel of suffering.

This right here just ended the thread.

Further arugments are invalid at this point. /Thread

 

[-immortal-]

:leaf:

You still with that ? It's as SageModeV2 said

this Chapter was Current.
its the newest of the Newest

 

[Clouds]

aww did a fictional character get under your skin? Look's like kishi made you butthurt with a touch of his pen.

I love how you have nothing else to state. So you resort to insulting me. Lol
Ah well could have expected it from someone like you. :c

 

[Flawž]

I love how you have nothing else to state. So you resort to insulting me. Lol
Ah well could have expected it from someone like you. :c

Classic "you got nothing to say so you resort to insulting me".

Laughable.

 

[Clouds]

There really is no difference between Madara and Obito's case, if all they wanted was to personally be with Rin or Izuna then they would've just attached themselves to the Gedo Mazo and live in lalala land by themselves. No, what they are doing is an idealism born from personal tragedy, they are on a crusade to help the world (in their own morally questionable way) by liberating the entirety of humanity from the wheel of suffering.

Thats why Madara is still out of the question. We know to little about him. He might be planning something else.

 

[Flawž]

Thats why Madara is still out of the question. We know to little about him. He might be planning something else.

Why are you changing the subject to madara? aren't you insulting obito here?

 

[Clouds]

Why are you changing the subject to madara? aren't you insulting obito here?

Bro im not talking to you. Because you're not too bright. So just let it go already >_>

 

[Flawž]

Bro im not talking to you. Because you're not too bright. So just let it go already >_>

Bringing manga facts into a debate is considered "Not being bright". Oh the irony.

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[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Thats why Madara is still out of the question. We know to little about him. He might be planning something else.

Umm not really

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Obito: Reality is Hell, solution: MT

Madara: There are no real dreams in this world, solution: MT

 

[xcoyote]

So you must hate all the villains?

He is a Madara wanker cause of his pretty hair.

 

[Draphsin]

Meh. Obito haters are rather pathetic. They have no real reason for hating on him other than that shitty Rin argument.

You speak the truth, the whole truth, & nothing but the truth u_u

Bashing Obito because of Rin? Try something new man Zzz

I don't even bother arguing this anymore. It's pretty obvious there's more to it unless you're reading from a child's POV. Either you're ignorant towards the manga, you don't like Obito or you just felt like drawing some flame

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I feel the same way man

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There really is no difference between Madara and Obito's case, if all they wanted was to personally be with Rin or Izuna then they would've just attached themselves to the Gedo Mazo and live in lalala land by themselves. No, what they are doing is an idealism born from personal tragedy, they are on a crusade to help the world (in their own morally questionable way) by liberating the entirety of humanity from the wheel of suffering.

People need to take notes. u_u

 

[Flawž]

He is a Madara wanker cause of his pretty hair.

Yea.

"i hate obito because he killed thousands of people"

"I love madara becuase of his Hair"

We're talking to a kid here. Lol

 

[Edo Odin]

Guys, stop wasting your time, it's clearly pointless.​

 

[Clouds]

Umm not really

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Obito: Reality is Hell, solution: MT

Madara: There are no real dreams in this world, solution: MT

whoa ._.
I totally forgot about that. nice.
But it still remains an ideal. So i can't say their belief is wrong nor that its correct. :l