Remember when people used to debate this?

[Multiply]

Unbanned and back at your antics I see XD

 

[Flawž]

Unbanned and back at your antics I see XD

What are you talking about?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I agree, It's kinda obvious that madara will get the last laugh since Obito is in the process of TNJ.

But yea, Let's see what madara is going to do.



hopefully kishi is aware of this. Plot is on madara's side but still.

Do people actually think Madara won't be redeemed? Kishi didn't put those flashbacks of him and Hashi's childhood just for show, it's there to humanize Madara, to show the readers that he's not really the big bad wolf, the misunderstood creature trope applies. Of course he's going to be redeemed, Kishimoto is not one to give a sob backstory to a villain and make him die bad, if Kishi didn't show their childhood I would still be in doubt if he's going to be redeemed or not. But Kishi did, and now Madara's fate is sealed.

 

[htmwall]

i can't see madara winning against obito,never.
without even the need of rinnegan obito wins,madara has no counter for kamui.madara is all about brute force coming from susanoo.he's not really that special.brute force can't work on obito.

 

[Flawž]

Do people actually think Madara won't be redeemed? Kishi didn't put those flashbacks of him and Hashi's childhood just for show, it's there to humanize Madara, to show the readers that he's not really the big bad wolf, the misunderstood creature trope applies. Of course he's going to be redeemed, Kishimoto is not one to give a sob backstory to a villain and make him die bad, if Kishi didn't show their childhood I would still be in doubt if he's going to be redeemed or not. But Kishi did, and now Madara's fate is sealed.

yea ikr. I had like 4 people tell me that Madara will not be redeemed? Lol

Just because it's obito's turn to be TNJ'd doesn't mean madara's turn isn't next.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

yea ikr. I had like 4 people tell me that Madara will not be redeemed? Lol

Just because it's obito's turn to be TNJ'd doesn't mean madara's turn isn't next.

The fruit does not fall far from the tree, the master and apprentice are interchangeable, Obito: Reality is Hell, Madz: There are no real dreams in this world, Obito: The Good Kid who loved his friends, Madara: the good kid who loved his brother, Obito: lost Rin, Madara: lost Izuna, Obito: Mugen Tsukuyomi, Madara: Mugen Tsukuyomi. If they don't think the apprentice's inevitable redemption will elude the master then they're seriously in denial.

 

[Flawž]

The fruit does not fall far from the tree, the master and apprentice are interchangeable, Obito: Reality is Hell, Madz: There are no real dreams in this world, Obito: The Good Kid who loved his friends, Madara: the good kid who loved his brother, Obito: lost Rin, Madara: lost Izuna, Obito: Mugen Tsukuyomi, Madara: Mugen Tsukuyomi. If they don't think the apprentice's inevitable redemption will elude the master then they're seriously in denial.

not to mention this is a shonen manga and Kishi's history with villains.

 

[-Jiraiya-]

you think madara > juubito? lol get real son.

I'm speaking for real "dad".. the fact that Madara doesn't even gave a crap let alone become shocked about obito becoming jubito is an indirect evidence that Madara has powers to solo him...
soon we will find out in manga.

 

[Flawž]

I'm speaking for real "dad".. the fact that Madara doesn't even gave a crap let alone become shocked about obito becoming jubito is an indirect evidence that Madara has powers to solo him...
soon we will find out in manga.

Juubito > Madara. Currently madara is trying to take more power from hashirama to execute his trump card.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Madara and Obito are open books, one can easily see what the literary resolution of their characters will be, if others are looking for a wild card in the playing field then that would be Sasuke, though his intentions are clearly non-malicious in nature, it could be morally questionable none the less, so how will Sasuke try to achieve peace? Will he follow the Elder Son's ideology or did he truly fully accepted the Senju's Will of Fire? We shall see.

 

[Multiply]

What are you talking about?

Were you not just banned...

 

[Shura]

I'm speaking for real "dad".. the fact that Madara doesn't even gave a crap let alone become shocked about obito becoming jubito is an indirect evidence that Madara has powers to solo him...
soon we will find out in manga.

So you came to the conclusion that Madara is stronger than Juubito because Madara isn't even worried about Obito becoming the Juubi Jinchuuriki? Do you realize that Madara tends to overestimate himself? You can't say that Madara is stronger than him just because he implied that his trump card would beat Juubito.

OT: Juubito > Edo Madara > Rinnegan Obito > EMS Madara.

 

[Flawž]

Were you not just banned...

no. Lol haven't been banned.

 

[warlee]

I'm not debating lol. And the only person that will get the last laugh is naruto.

 

[Multiply]

no. Lol haven't been banned.

Interesting... Don't mind me then.

 

[Flawž]

So you came to the conclusion that Madara is stronger than Juubito because Madara isn't even worried about Obito becoming the Juubi Jinchuuriki? Do you realize that Madara tends to overestimate himself? You can't say that Madara is stronger than him just because he implied that his trump card would beat Juubito.

OT: Juubito > Edo Madara > Rinnegan Obito > EMS Madara.

my thoughts exactly.

People severely underestimate the 2nd hermit sage of six paths.

 

[kunde]

my thoughts exactly.

People severely underestimate the 2nd hermit sage of six paths.

Is it even questionable that who is stronger b/w these two?
Power wise juubito is currently stronger than anyone else, it maybe so that madara had knowledge regarding six paths weakness against sage mode but it doesn't change the fact that juubito is stronger than him, Chakra is the key factor here, clearly juubito owns current EDO madara. I believe only MadaraRules said that EDO madara>SO6P which everyone knows not true Lol

 

[naruttebayo]

you are bringing back those days XD

i see some people still think madara > jubito ........ that's laughable.

 

[TrollingSage]

Well people are entitled to their opinions. Personally I don't see Madara beating any form of Tobi. He has no answer to kamui.

 

[Mellanoma]

My favorite was HOW DID HAshirama beat Space time nin Madara