[Theory] Hyuuga Clan:The Direct Descendants Of Juubi[Final Update]

[tysoncs]

So, um... I'm not too impressed with this prediction. (Sorry)

Saying that a human clan is the descendant of a tree... is stupid. There is no possibility that this could happen.
That being said, The Byakuugan is a doujutsu. Which means that it is related to Chakra. Without Chakra, there would be no jutsu, no... Anything (besides Taijutsu, at least to some extent i think). Since all chakra originate from the Juubi, it is obvious that the Byakugan is related to the Juubi.

But, that doesnt mean that the Juubi's fighting style is at all related to the Hyuuga's. I didnt see the corelation between the two, that you were trying to point out. Yes, the juubi punched its enemy, but was there a huge ball of chakra surrounding its hand? I didnt see one. Not the gentle fist, but a punch. Yes, the Juubi was able to tell that Naruto had the Chakra of multiple Tailed Beasts, but did it see Chakra nodes? No. Not the Byakuugan.

Ok, so the 360 move is similar in use for both the Juubi and the Hyuuga, but that doesnt mean much...

The fighting style of the Hyuuga's is based off of their ability to see chakra nodes.
The fighting style of the Juubi is... different.

These are all cases of independent invention. Take for example, in ancient Egypt people wore sandals. The Aztecs also wore sandals. Does that mean that the Egyptians taught the Aztecs how to make sandals? (I forgot who came first, so forgive me if its the other way around). No. They both independently invented sandals because it would be easier to walk with.

So, even though the Byakuugan technically originates from the Juubi, the Hyuuga fighting style is not at all associated with the Juubi's.


The Hyuuga symbols in the pictures do not conclude much of anything. When you saw that symbol in the Uchiha shrine, that is called the inkblot theory. Eventhough the two symbols look similar, you cannot conclude that they are related, or mean the same thing. I mean, since it is in the Uchiha shrine, couldn't it be the Amateretsu Orb that Sasuke's Susano holds? (Im not saying that it is, just that you cannot say that since two things look alike, they are the same.)

This same thing applies to how the Hyuuga clan relates to the Uzumaki clan, just because symbols that resemble their clans are shown in the same picture.

All said and done, the Juubi is related to all people, because all people now have chakra. Chakra originates from the Juubi, so Everyone, not just the Hyuuga, are technically related to the Juubi.

But they are not decendants. The only Juubi decendants are the zetsu and the tailed beasts.

U r wrong there was no chakra dat time surrounding juubi's hands..kurama himself states dat juubi is really fast:

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hyuuga's fighting style is a way similar to juubi..bcz there techniques juubi uses based upon chakra nodes...see my pic in theory point no.7 in abitlies comparison!
I said its similar not exact...
And i said hyuugas are direct descendants of juubi...bcz of their relation to s06p which makes it more convenient!
have u even read my 3rd point?

You... said that they would have Juubi's Gentle Fist style... so you just questioned your own theory. A style of ninjutsu is taught, not inherited! So YOU tell ME, in YOUR theory, where would the Hyuuga have gotten the Gentle Fist style unless their ancestors either saw Juubi and adapted its style, or there was a detailed record that they used to develop the current Gentle Fist.

Symbols play a role, yes; but not every generic symbol is linked. Not every spiral is an Uzumaki symbol, or oni mask a seal.

And I'm not your 'bro'. Also, please for the sake of your credibility, spell all your words out. At least your initial post didn't make me want to gouge my eyes out with a thesaurus.

The fighting style of the Hyuuga's is based off of their ability to see chakra nodes. much similar to juubi..juubi targets its enemies by sensing and seeing his enemies' chakra...
Juubi's main target became naruto when he saw the bijuu's chakra inside him:

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He targeted the whole shinobi alliance by sensing their chakra:see what 8-tails says here:

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Nice effort,nice theory,nice read. Good job

Thankz for appreciation!

I really wanna know how they were created but Kishi won't tell us. He should make a canon or something to explain it?

I would try my best next time..exams are near!

I can't see the majority of your pictures, but I've seen enough to get your point. Maybe the Hyuuga are to the Uchiha what the Uzumaki are to the Senju. I've always thought that. I found their symbol an interest bit too.

thankz for agreeing!

Holy sh*T that was an awesome read..

Would of never figured or thought about Hyuugas being similar to the Juubi.

Hm.. you raised an interesting point.

thankz buddy...

At this :"The bagua (Chinese: 八卦; literally "eight symbols") are eight trigrams used in Taoist cosmology to represent the fundamental principles of reality, seen as a range of eight interrelated concepts. Each consists of three lines, each line either "broken" or "unbroken," representing yin or yang, respectively. Due to their tripartite structure, they are often referred to as "trigrams" in English.
The trigrams are related to taiji philosophy, taijiquan and the wu xing, or "five elements". The relationships between the trigrams are represented in two arrangements, the Primordial (先天八卦), "Earlier Heaven" or "Fuxi" bagua (伏羲八卦), and the Manifested (後天八卦), "Later Heaven,"[2] or "King Wen" bagua. The trigrams have correspondences in astronomy, astrology, geography, geomancy, anatomy, the family, and elsewhere.

ok..thankz for extended info..i will add this to my theory..reps to u!

 

[biswa112]

i love 1st,2nd and 4th point...i have a confusion over 3rd point...i need to reread the manga for that..overall good theory!:hooray:

 

[paratise]

I liked the theory, i have seen several theories about byakugan before but you brought up certain additional points like Neji-Sage and How they resemble each other. Good job.

Oh and there is this thing about Moon's eye:
The Moon will resemble to Juubi's eye; a mixture of sharingan-rinnegan but the Moon's surface is white like byakugan; doujutsus might have such connection as well.

 

[tysoncs]

I liked the theory, i have seen several theories about byakugan before but you brought up certain additional points like Neji-Sage and How they resemble each other. Good job.

Oh and there is this thing about Moon's eye:
The Moon will resemble to Juubi's eye; a mixture of sharingan-rinnegan but the Moon's surface is white like byakugan; doujutsus might have such connection as well.

thankz for the appreciation buddy...

 

[Joshutsu]

Good theory, lots of effort put in I see. It wouldn't be that farfetched I guess. It would be nice if they had some form of link it would give something for Hinata to stand out in for a time. Which is always good to have development among different characters.

 

[Scarecrow.]

Interesting theory....

 

[tysoncs]

Good theory, lots of effort put in I see. It wouldn't be that farfetched I guess. It would be nice if they had some form of link it would give something for Hinata to stand out in for a time. Which is always good to have development among different characters.

yeah..i want hinata to surpass all female characters in narutoverse!

Interesting theory....

thankz buddy for reading!

 

[The Sach]

Kakashi cant be wrong...lol

Why??O_O
Well there are many more things I would like to debate on here->
Let's start with point no. 1, If Hyuuga clan gave arise to Uchiha, why can't they cast genjutsu??O_O

 

[ROSH2]

I disagree dude

 

[tysoncs]

I disagree dude

umm..thankz for reading atleast!
but plz state ur reasons..

 

[biswa112]

Why??O_O
Well there are many more things I would like to debate on here->
Let's start with point no. 1, If Hyuuga clan gave arise to Uchiha, why can't they cast genjutsu??O_O

wel..its simple..sharingan was formed when the juubi's chakra got mixed with elder ancestor's dojutsu chakra..which evolved it..we all know juubi's possess genjutsu...somewhat like infinite genjutsu..as sharingan arises from elder ancestor along with juubi's chakra,it possess ability to perform genjutsu too!
Juubi is the only beast to possess byakugan techs,Ms techs,sharingan techs,rinne techs..dats y!

 

[House]

By scanning through your theory, you have little to no proof that Hyuuga is related to 10 Tails. It's like you're trying to give meanings to certain symbols/moves that goes in your favor. The abilities of the Juubi are far fetched from Hyuugas. Gentle Fist is about perception and agility without using any power behind their strikes, nothing like Strong Fist. I can't see any similarities between the Juubis techs and the hyuuga's techs. Merely comparing Hyuuga's rotation to the Juubi creating a hurricane is vague and you're generalizing everything. By all means, then any shinobi who's able to create a hurricane related to hyuugas?

However, Juubi and the Hyuugas are related in their place of origin. The usage of chakra did come from the God Tree.

However, Hyuugas are related to Uchihas as how Kakashi pointed out by their ocular powers.

 

[tysoncs]

By scanning through your theory, you have little to no proof that Hyuuga is related to 10 Tails. It's like you're trying to give meanings to certain symbols/moves that goes in your favor. The abilities of the Juubi are far fetched from Hyuugas. Gentle Fist is about perception and agility without using any power behind their strikes, nothing like Strong Fist. I can't see any similarities between the Juubis techs and the hyuuga's techs. Merely comparing Hyuuga's rotation to the Juubi creating a hurricane is vague and you're generalizing everything. By all means, then any shinobi who's able to create a hurricane related to hyuugas?


However, Juubi and the Hyuugas are related in their place of origin. The usage of chakra did come from the God Tree.

However, Hyuugas are related to Uchihas as how Kakashi pointed out by their ocular powers.

thankz for agreeing with symbols part..juubi's fist style is similar to hyuuga! although juubi possess a powerful one!and i said about gentle fist not strong fist
those 2 are different!
and more importantly how is a hurricane created??its through rotation of chakra!
the only difference is juubi rotates chakra around its surroundings and hyuugas rotate chakra around their body..
but they seem to be similar..

Note:i said they are similar not exact!

 

[Darth Vader]

Although I don't know if this is true, you've certainly made me think that it is very possible, and the facts you have us are mind blowing. Great job!

 

[iiPyromaniac]

Great thread and all, but unfortunately, until there is some actual proof from Kishi, I have to disagree that the Hyuga are direct descandants of the Juubi. First of all, the Juubi's descendants are the Bijuu, since they were created from the splitting of its chakra. The Sage of 6 Paths is not a desendant of the Juubi. Kaguya ate the forbidden fruit and when she bore a child, that child had Chakra due to his mother eating the forbidden fruit, thus he is a descendant of Kaguya. The Sages sons are, obviously, descendants of the Sage. Which means that only the Uchiha and the Senju are directly related to the Sage. There is currently a lack of information regarding the Hyuga clan's origins for any analytically correct assumption to be made. The Hyuga clan symbol being present is mere coincidence. As for the techniques, the Juubi's attacks are nothing like the Hyuga's Gentle Fist style. The Juubi uses physical force, whereas the Gentle Fist style is named so because of the lack of physical force used and the reliance upon agility. Still a great thread though! If there wasn't a lack of information, I'd probably agree with you.

 

[House]

thankz for agreeing with symbols part..juubi's fist style is similar to hyuuga! although juubi possess a powerful one!and i said about gentle fist not strong fist
those 2 are different!
and more importantly how is a hurricane created??its through rotation of chakra!
the only difference is juubi rotates chakra around its surroundings and hyuugas rotate chakra around their body..
but they seem to be similar..

Note:i said they are similar not exact!

You don't seem to understand what's different about Gentle Fist and Strong Fist. The Gentle Fist isn't a strong powerful strike. It's agile and exploiting the opponent's weaknesses by attacking their tendons and ligaments. The Juubi is using Strong Fist where here merely makes a powerful strike. Also, that isn't a chakra rotation. If that would be a chakra rotation, it'll be similar to Neji's but it creates hurricanes around himself so it's a wind jutsu, using his chakra to manipulate the wind. Using purely chakra and using your chakra to manipulate the wind is different. Again, you're over generalizing things. Saying a wind jutsu similar to Neji's rotation is like saying all the elements are interconnected and everyone is similar. You're not making any connections between Juubi and Neji but only the similarity of both are able to use taijutsu and chakra which includes any shinobi.

 

[House]

Great thread and all, but unfortunately, until there is some actual proof from Kishi, I have to disagree that the Hyuga are direct descandants of the Juubi. First of all, the Juubi's descendants are the Bijuu, since they were created from the splitting of its chakra. The Sage of 6 Paths is not a desendant of the Juubi. Kaguya ate the forbidden fruit and when she bore a child, that child had Chakra due to his mother eating the forbidden fruit, thus he is a descendant of Kaguya. The Sages sons are, obviously, descendants of the Sage. Which means that only the Uchiha and the Senju are directly related to the Sage. There is currently a lack of information regarding the Hyuga clan's origins for any analytically correct assumption to be made. The Hyuga clan symbol being present is mere coincidence. Still a great thread though! If there wasn't a lack of information, I'd probably agree with you.

I was looking for this. The symbols are all coincidence.

 

[Made in Heaven]

well, considering you used some of my work, how can i disagree?

 

[Eternal Solitude]

Aren't all da shinobi related 2 SO6P? nd he had da Juubi inside of of him...so yeah! da Hyuga r related 2 SO6P
I mean Kushina had Kyuubi inside her when she gave birth 2 Naruto nd he got those 3 linez or whiskerz on hiz face...so yup I agree...but not only Hyuga

My personal thoughts

 

[The Sach]

wel..its simple..
sharingan was formed when the juubi's chakra got mixed with elder ancestor's dojutsu chakra..which evolved it..we all know juubi's possess genjutsu...somewhat like infinite genjutsu..
as sharingan arises from elder ancestor along with juubi's chakra,it possess ability to perform genjutsu too!
Juubi is the only beast to possess byakugan techs,Ms techs,sharingan techs,rinne techs..dats y!

One sec Mr. simple, you didn't answer my question at all, my question isn't why Sharingan can cast genjutsu, my question is why Byakugan can't, if Byakugan gave arise to sharingan, SO6P must be Hyuuga, which is again wrong, he was Hagoromo, how he got Byakugan rather, do you have any explanation for all this points??