The Ending No One is Talking About: Why Madara, Sasuke and Obito got it right

[ANiMUS]

Hey thanks for reading and commenting.

To the bold and other parts of your comment. If I'm understanding your point correctly, it seems like you are confusing Sasuke's reasons for people not having chakra, with the actual reason people shouldn't have chakra. I'm not saying chakra should be taken away from people because they use it to hurt each other, I am saying chakra should be taken away from people because it was stolen in the first place. "Naruto wants them to understand and love each other." Yes, but what I am saying is that its not just about the people anymore, they are things to think about, like the Bijuu, the God Tree (who isn't evil I may add). So, he has to find a way to make everyone happy. Namely, returning chakra to its rightful owner.

Returning the chakra serves no purpose. If you really want to do something positive make friends with the bijuu. Teach them the ways you intend to keep peace. Teach special select future jinchuurikis your path to peace and make only those worthy of the inheritance become jinchuuriki. The jinchuuriki serve as the support beams of the alliance. Past jinchuuriki teach future jinchuuriki, have Bijuu only ally with those who align with the teachings of peace. (Won't give power to those filled with hatred.) Even if people die bijuu are immortal and they can carry the teachings of peace. Even if the world reverts to darkness, the bijuu can give power to those who truly seek peace, and those will again lead the world on the right path.

 

[2nd hokage]

You left out the end of my post in your comment you did respond to my chakra counter. But could you respond to the main difference in the sons naruto wants people to get along and accept each others differences growing to love everyone and everything a vary buddist ideal.
While sasuke wants people to get along or else wanting to take away there power and becoming the only one to have it a dictator. The show is called naruto so I'm thinking narutos way is the way it ends not sasukes way

 

[bigfatloser]

I've always felt that madara and obito were on the right track, as compared to the shinobi alliance. it's frustrated me endlessly to have naruto continually miss their points and ignore important questions.

If you are wrong about this, you should have been the one writing naruto, not kishi

 

[KingHashirama]

Madara got it wrong:

The cause was Madara's hatred, and the end is Hashirama's Dream.
Sadly, people do not realize that the era before the villages was even worst. The Village system actually decreased the violence.


Obito:

Naive man, who thinks he knows it. He blames the village system , for problems he himself is also responsible for. For problems his teacher was responsible for also. All I ever hear from Obito is you did this and he did that and she did this.. even though he did the worst things of all.


Sasuke:

The main character is against his believes. He wants to burn down the bijuus, meaning end the starting point. However, he failed to realize that he himself was responsible for the current events. Another failure who cannot look at his own mistakes, but blames others.



Do you believe Hashirama created the village and believed everything was going to work out??

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

Returning the chakra serves no purpose. If you really want to do something positive make friends with the bijuu. Teach them the ways you intend to keep peace. Teach special select future jinchuurikis your path to peace and make only those worthy of the inheritance become jinchuuriki. The jinchuuriki serve as the support beams of the alliance. Past jinchuuriki teach future jinchuuriki, have Bijuu only ally with those who align with the teachings of peace. (Won't give power to those filled with hatred.) Even if people die bijuu are immortal and they can carry the teachings of peace. Even if the world reverts to darkness, the bijuu can give power to those who truly seek peace, and those will again lead the world on the right path.

This is the same answer I came up with. The bijuu are a part of the prophecy the sage made, so they must play a part in finding true peace with Naruto.

 

[saw2097]

It was an interesting read, however I disagree with certain points, the chakra being removed from everyone is unlikely to happen because people have become so bound by it that they would die without it. It would contradict a lot of points in the manga if everybody lost their chakra.

I do agree that the Ninja world will be reshuffled in the end, but I doubt it will be one single leader that would be a dictatorship and a world government because that just opens the door to all sorts of new problems.

I think there will be Kage and Ninja when its over but their purpose for existing will be changed dramatically.

 

[Erebus]

No one thinks about it because everyone just wants to see Naruto on the hokage seat having some hyuuga wife, but I think ur post made a whole lot of sense, although I doubt the village system will be destroyed.

 

[Vicen]

Sasuke never specified what his ideals were so you saying he is right in his ideals is just plain absurd.

And until recentlly sasuke was completely consumed by his hatred making him the furthest from a real solution proposed to the ninja world.

All he stated is that he is going to change things and since he is willing to kill the tailed beast and tell everyone he cares less of what they think of him means he is fine by obtaining "peace" through power another dead give away that he has no clue what the real solution is.


You can't obtain peace through power and you can't become hokage without being acknowledged.

Sasuke is failing on both fronts and will be set on the right path when naruto does it right.


And your whole sasuke takes an interest in onmyoudon falls completely flat sasuke didn't even say anything nor was there any action characters to express reactions from anyone standing there while tobirama explained what is was.

theories need to come from hints,facts and stuff we can observe not out of thin air.

You say Sasuke never specified his ideals, yet you criticize him for wanting to kill Bijuu?

 

[LitAquarius]

Interesting, I agree with this.

 

[-ahhimane-]

What Madara and Obito are trying currently after realizing how the Shinobi system is just escaping/rejecting the current situation of the world. They both are trying to run away from the problem by putting everyone in the IT. In short they won't succeed in the IT plan.

I don't know if anyone asked this or not but I want to ask.

On the other hand Sasuke, there is a possibility that he read everything from the Uchiha tablet and understands what Madara said about the Shinobi system. If this is true and Sasuke wants to change the shinobi system by burning down the God Tree and blames everything on the Kages and the villages, THEN why he wants to become Hokage? As you said, in the end, there won't be any borders, no villages. Only remain will be a complete piece of land with the people united. If this is all Sasuke, Obito and Madara needs then Sasuke mentioning that he will become Hokage and change the system is showing signs of another situation where new generation will speak of changing the system in their own accord.
In short, Madara, Obito and Sasuke are only running from the situations they are pitted into. They do not have a clear solution on the current problem.

On the other hand, Naruto and alliance are trying their best which is possible currently. And as the cooperation goes further, they will come to a point as the solution. Because there are shinobis who are facing the situation and will live further with a story for the future generations. Their experience in the current war will lead to peace even if it is for a short while.
Like you said, as long as Naruto lives, similarly things won't remain the same and only one side( good or bad, love or hate ) cannot remain for long.

In Sasuke's reign, there will be people like Danzo who will be against the ninja system created by Sasuke. Sasuke will only become the next Hashirama who will create the same situation which is faced by everyone currently.

 

[Natsu5]

I love your post. It goes along with what I have been saying (in my head of course and not with so many amazing pics to bak it up) all along. One of the main issues with the shinobi system is how it's based off money. I guess my question would be, "what would be the income in a shinobi alliance country?"
Anywho great theory. I hope to read more!