It all Makes sense now! Itachi was planning to beat Obito

[xxSAGExx]

Soooooo why did he send others to attack konoha....and itachi is a f***in genius he can figure kamui out...why cant ge figure kamui out??

How? Itachi would be dead before figuring it out. All Obito has to do is Kamui behind Itachi and do this

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. Obito would see thru any clones and genjutsus.

What are u talking about......after he massacred his clan his only motive was to get sasuke hatred up so he could die by his hand

Wrong, Itachi also wanted Sasuke strong enough to fight against Tobi if he ever went after him so planned out his fight with Sasuke so he can die by Sasuke hands and Sasuke can awaken the MS. He also told Sasuke about the EMS in that fight so Sasuke knows to take his eyes.

haha indeed I think Kamui was that secret. Which I believe he got Yata and Totsuka to be able to handle whatever tricks he used

He said "Secrets" tho so could be wood jutsu, Kamui and more. Remember Madara did train Obito

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Izanami playa.....blocks kamui with yata

Yata blocks attacks! Kamui is not an attack, it's a S/T jutsu so Obito would Kamui within Susanoo. He already got thru barriers before. Izanami? You mean the jutsu that takes steps to prepare? The one that Obito highly likely knows about since he did train Itachi.

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Itachi called him his teacher. Itachi even said Izanami can't really be used in a fight because you can escape from it and Madara taught Obito about it. Itachi called it a Kinjutsu

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and Madara taught Obito the Uchihas Kinjutsus

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Yet madara the legendary uchiha fell for the clone jutsu....

do you know how to read the manga? Madara was out of chakra and his Sharingan wasn't active and that's how he got fooled.

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And obito knew he couldnt beat itachi or else he wouldve at least tempted to touch konoha

Sending Hidan and Kakuza to Konoha isn't Obito touching Konoha? Hmmm. You're logic seems flaw

 

[Mellanoma]

How? Itachi would be dead before figuring it out. All Obito has to do is Kamui behind Itachi and do this

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. Obito would see thru any clones and genjutsus.




Wrong, Itachi also wanted Sasuke strong enough to fight against Tobi if he ever went after him so planned out his fight with Sasuke so he can die by Sasuke hands and Sasuke can awaken the MS. He also told Sasuke about the EMS in that fight so Sasuke knows to take his eyes.



He said "Secrets" tho so could be wood jutsu, Kamui and more. Remember Madara did train Obito

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Yata blocks attacks! Kamui is not an attack, it's a S/T jutsu so Obito would Kamui within Susanoo. He already got thru barriers before. Izanami? You mean the jutsu that takes steps to prepare? The one that Obito highly likely knows about since he did train Itachi.

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Itachi called him his teacher. Itachi even said Izanami can't really be used in a fight because you can escape from it and Madara taught Obito about it. Itachi called it a Kinjutsu

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and Madara taught Obito the Uchihas Kinjutsus

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do you know how to read the manga? Madara was out of chakra and his Sharingan wasn't active and that's how he got fooled.

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Sending Hidan and Kakuza to Konoha isn't Obito touching Konoha? Hmmm. You're logic seems flaw

Itachi eyes can read intentions of others (Manga fact) wouldn't be hard to figure that out....

Also Itachi didn't want Madara to harm Konoha.. Itachi knew the others were not capable of harming konoha as noted when Kakuza got fodderized

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

1. Yata and Totsuka are 100% useless against Kamui.

2. We don't know how powerful Exploding Shadow Clone even is, might just be enough to knock someone on their ass. Aside from that, how does it beat Obito? It also takes half of Itachi's limited chakra so if it doesn't deal any significant damage then it's a waste of chakra.

3. Itachi's low-level Katons aren't going to do significant damage to Mokuton, and Amaterasu took a long time to burn some trees. Besides, Obito can use a LOT more mokuton than Itachi can use Amaterasu.

4. It takes forever and a day to cast Izanami, Itachi would get killed before it's finished prepping.

5. I suppose that cancels each other out.

Solos kids and cripples.

 

[itachiuchiha21]

1. Yata and Totsuka are 100% useless against Kamui.

2. We don't know how powerful Exploding Shadow Clone even is, might just be enough to knock someone on their ass. Aside from that, how does it beat Obito? It also takes half of Itachi's limited chakra so if it doesn't deal any significant damage then it's a waste of chakra.

3. Itachi's low-level Katons aren't going to do significant damage to Mokuton, and Amaterasu took a long time to burn some trees. Besides, Obito can use a LOT more mokuton than Itachi can use Amaterasu.

4. It takes forever and a day to cast Izanami, Itachi would get killed before it's finished prepping.

5. I suppose they may cancel each other out.

Solos kids and cripples.

rofl

you should change your name to UltimateItachiHater

 

[Mellanoma]

1. Yata and Totsuka are 100% useless against Kamui.

2. We don't know how powerful Exploding Shadow Clone even is, might just be enough to knock someone on their. Aside from that, how does it beat Obito? It also takes half of Itachi's limited chakra so if it doesn't deal any significant damage then it's a waste of chakra.

3. Itachi's low-level Katons aren't going to do significant damage to Mokuton, and Amaterasu took a long time to burn some trees. Besides, Obito can use a LOT more mokuton than Itachi can use Amaterasu.

4. It takes forever and a day to cast Izanami, Itachi would get killed before it's finished prepping.

5. I suppose they may cancel each other out.

Solos kids and cripples.

You are officially #1 Itachi hater lol

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

rofl

you should change your name to UltimateItachiHater

You are officially #1 Itachi hater lol

Based on the opinions of Itachitards. Anyone that isn't jacking off to him must seem like a hater.

Aside from failing to understand other peoples' views and criticisms of Itachi, you fail to understand that I don't hate Itachi... I hate his irrationally biased fans. I've said that about a hundred times now, but like always, you'll just choose to believe what you want to believe. The only character I actually hate is Nagato.

 

[aimop95]

Kakashi is the only guy who even had a chance of beating Obito when he used his Sharingan.

 

[aimop95]

When has it been stated in the manga the kamui cant be blocked.....but in the manga it states that yata is the ultimate defense

Manga states that Gaara's sand defense is the ultimate defense. Says a lot of jutsu is the ultimate defense...every heard of hype?

 

[xxSAGExx]

Itachi eyes can read intentions of others (Manga fact) wouldn't be hard to figure that out....

Also Itachi didn't want Madara to harm Konoha.. Itachi knew the others were not capable of harming konoha as noted when Kakuza got fodderized

Obito sharingan is stronger than Itachi's so he can read Itachi even better. Itachi said one needs the MS to control Kurama

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, Obito did it with just 3 tomoes

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. Obito was trained by Madara who also controlled Kurama with just 3 tomoes

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(Madara saying he'll teach him).

Itachi knew others where not capable of harming Konoha? Wrong, each member of the Akatsuki are S rank criminals and it took only 2 members to go to the Sand village and only 1 to attack the Jinchuuriki and village. Deidara team was the weakest in Akatsuki. Nagato destroyed Konoha and yes he counts as "Others". And Kakuza wasn't fodderized, it was thanks to Shikamaru's plan that he made after seeing what Kakuza and Hidan can do. Shikamaru and his dad Shikaku are pros at making strategies that uses their comrades power effectively.

The best thing they could have done was separate Kakuza and Hidan and even then Naruto, Yamato, Sai and Sakura came. Itachi doesn't know about Shikamaru so wouldn't know he would have trapped Hidan in the Nara clan area. Kakashi, Yamato and Naruto are jounin level and the rest are chunin level (Kakashi said Naruto could stand by him or even surpass, this was after the Kakuza and Hidan fight). Hidan plan out said "We're going to Konoha" and Itachi just had "......."

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Nothing Itachi could do to stop that, if he tried anything then all of Akatsuki would be on him and Konoha

 

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Obito sharingan is stronger than Itachi's so he can read Itachi even better. Itachi said one needs the MS to control Kurama

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, Obito did it with just 3 tomoes

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. Obito was trained by Madara who also controlled Kurama with just 3 tomoes

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(Madara saying he'll teach him).

Itachi knew others where not capable of harming Konoha? Wrong, each member of the Akatsuki are S rank criminals and it took only 2 members to go to the Sand village and only 1 to attack the Jinchuuriki and village. Deidara team was the weakest in Akatsuki. Nagato destroyed Konoha and yes he counts as "Others". And Kakuza wasn't fodderized, it was thanks to Shikamaru's plan that he made after seeing what Kakuza and Hidan can do. Shikamaru and his dad Shikaku are pros at making strategies that uses their comrades power effectively.

The best thing they could have done was separate Kakuza and Hidan and even then Naruto, Yamato, Sai and Sakura came. Itachi doesn't know about Shikamaru so wouldn't know he would have trapped Hidan in the Nara clan area. Kakashi, Yamato and Naruto are jounin level and the rest are chunin level (Kakashi said Naruto could stand by him or even surpass, this was after the Kakuza and Hidan fight). Hidan plan out said "We're going to Konoha" and Itachi just had "......."

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Nothing Itachi could do to stop that, if he tried anything then all of Akatsuki would be on him and Konoha

First off Itachi sharingan was noted to be "Unique" as in a ability specific to him. Same can be said for Shishu KA, Madara being able to see Clones, and so forth. Don't give Obito feats he does not have simply because Itachi easily out does him. Going off manga alone we could say fundamentally Obito is fodder as proven vs Kakashi. Itachi is above Kakashi in some aspects and = in others in terms of fundamentals and Itachi being able to read intentions further pushes him above others. Don't sit here trying to de-rate Itachi to prove your Obito points when Manga > Your opinion

Also you forget Itachi is a pacifist...

 

[xxSAGExx]

You are officially #1 Itachi hater lol

How is he a hater? The water clone would do more than know someone down but it's not enough to fatally wound Obito, especially since he can Kamui as the clone blows. As for the low level Katon of Itachi, I'm sure he's talking about the fact that Sasuke over powered Itachi's Katon and Obito's Katon is on Madara's level which took a group of Suiton users to match.

First off Itachi sharingan was noted to be "Unique" as in a ability specific to him. Same can be said for Shishu KA, Madara being able to see Clones, and so forth. Don't give Obito feats he does not have simply because Itachi easily out does him. Going off manga alone we could say fundamentally Obito is fodder as proven vs Kakashi. Itachi is above Kakashi in some aspects and = in others in terms of fundamentals and Itachi being able to read intentions further pushes him above others. Don't sit here trying to de-rate Itachi to prove your Obito points when Manga > Your opinion

Also you forget Itachi is a pacifist...

Tsk Tsk. Of course his Sharingan is unique to him, it's his eyes! Sharingan are tools, it depends on how well you can use that tool and how you use it. Shisui's KA is his MS jutsu, and being able to see clones is not unique to Madara, all Sharingans can see chakra and see thru jutsus and the fact you didn't know that shows you're either not thinking clearly, forgot about that, don't know that much about the Sharingan or twisting facts to suit your cause. Sasuke saw thru Naruto's clones in part 1 with his 2 tomoes.

Any Sharingan can read, predict and copy movements and jutsus, that is not unique to Itachi. Kakashi and Sasuke both did this and Kakashi isn't an Uchiha. Second, It was said Sasuke's eyes were stronger than Itachi's

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. Sasuke was reading Orochimaru's movements with 2 tomoes

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Going off manga? Do you not read the manga? You're comparing a Obito who waste chakra controlling the 6 Bijuus to controlling 5 Bijuus and had a hard time doing this while fighting BM Naruto, BM Bee, 6-7 gates Guy and MS Kakashi for like 2-3 hours and wasting chakra and tiring himself out to Kakashi who was beaten by Obito then given chakraand healed by Kurama which made his power 3x as strong? Really? Obito wasn't even at halve his strength by then. In a 1 on 1 fight with both fully healed and Kakashi has no chance of winning. Obito couldn't used Kamui cause Naruto and the alliance could attack from the other side. Obito>Itachi>Kakashi.

Where the hell didn I give Obito feats that he did not have? I gave Manga scans showing Obito control Kurama with only his 3 tomoes sharingan while also showing scans where Itachi called him teacher and said he needs the MS to control Kurama. I also provide scan that shows Madara telling Obito that he will teach him the Sage's jutsus, Uchiha's Kinjutsu, and In'youton jutsu

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No I didn't forget Itachi was a pacifist, this is common knowledge to those who read the manga. That's one of the 2 reasons why Itachi rely on genjutsus, it's also because he tries to end fights as quickly as he can so he doesn't have to resort to using MS jutsu which further hurts him due to his disease. I don't have to de-rate Itachi to say he can't beat someone who is stronger than him.

 

[VongolaX]

From what he knows, than yes but like Obito said thanks to concealing his senju half obito knows this:

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Obito taught itachi the kinjustu but everything else would be more than enough to take him out

 

[Filo]

Itachi basically said that Obito was his teacher to sasuke but im not sure if that was just a ruse