[Discussion] Mihawk>Shanks?

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To me Shanks seems like one of those pirates who uses everything in his fights such as legs, his one arm. Shanks probably prefers using a sword like Rayleigh however he can use his legs and arm when it comes to punching and kicking to.

Mihawk is probably better than Shanks with a sword however overall Shanks is most likely a better fighter.
holy f*ck, thank you man.

People need to understand this. It's not f*cking rocket science.
 

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How can the worlds strongest swordsman be weaker than a fellow swordsman? That just makes no sense! Not just that but Zoro's gotta surpass Mihawk to become the strongest. Not Shanks.
 

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How can the worlds strongest swordsman be weaker than a fellow swordsman? That just makes no sense! Not just that but Zoro's gotta surpass Mihawk to become the strongest. Not Shanks.
Listen if Shanks was a "swordsmen" he would prob. have a better sword. HE HAS A FODDER SWORD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD LOL. Just like fujitora, his fighting styles prob. doesn't use the sword that much. Also it wouldn't make sense for Luffy's Rival to be weaker than Zoro's.
 

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shanks is like rayleigh... maybe a lot stronger. he focuses on haki. now mihawk,, when it comes to swordsmanship hes way better i believe. but overall strength. shanks takes this. why? heres why.... why would the marines need 3 admirals all the VAs and all the shichibukai along with mihawk just to battle a single yonko fleet... and shanks is a yonko. if mihawk is as strong as shanks then the marines probably didnt need all them mothafukas.

and shanks uses a normal sword with one arm that blocked 2 handed wb. the worlds strongest man. blocked akainus magma punch (look below LOL). shanks was able to stop a war... i dont think mihawk could have done the same.
 

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Listen if Shanks was a "swordsmen" he would prob. have a better sword. HE HAS A FODDER SWORD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD LOL. Just like fujitora, his fighting styles prob. doesn't use the sword that much. Also it wouldn't make sense for Luffy's Rival to be weaker than Zoro's.
Swordsman
a man who fights with a sword (typically with his level of skill specified).

That is the definition. We don't know if his sword is a fodder sword or not. It will most likely be a Meito. Durandel looks like a mehh sword but it's a named and world famous sword. The sword a swordsman uses does not affect a persons title or classification as a swordsman.
 

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Swordsman
a man who fights with a sword (typically with his level of skill specified).

That is the definition. We don't know if his sword is a fodder sword or not. It will most likely be a Meito. Durandel looks like a mehh sword but it's a named and world famous sword. The sword a swordsman uses does not affect a persons title or classification as a swordsman.
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There is no proof that Shanks is a swordsman, he is someone who fights with the help of a sword. Which is something different. Shanks is able to crack physical stuff with his haki. He probably fights a bit like Kenpachi where he crushes people with his spirit.

How stupid would it be if Mihawk was stronger than a yonkou.
 
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I believe Shanks is stronger. Mihawk just doesnt have the same impact on people as Shanks. Also, I dont believe he is a true swordsman.
 

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How can the worlds strongest swordsman be weaker than a fellow swordsman? That just makes no sense! Not just that but Zoro's gotta surpass Mihawk to become the strongest. Not Shanks.
Swordsman
a man who fights with a sword (typically with his level of skill specified).


That is the definition. We don't know if his sword is a fodder sword or not. It will most likely be a Meito. Durandel looks like a mehh sword but it's a named and world famous sword. The sword a swordsman uses does not affect a persons title or classification as a swordsman.
By your logic the only reason Mihawk is known as the WSS is simply because of one pure, undeniable-fact: the sword Mihawk swings around is the WSS and hence he's the WSS. After-all, you state Shanks is a swordsman - end of discussion. Meaning, have Mihawk & Shanks swap swords and then tell me who's the WSS. So give Yoru to Mr 3. and thereby he becomes the WSS, right?

In conclusion: the person who wields the WSS is NOT necessarily the WSS. So just 'cause Shanks has a sword, he ain't a swordsman.


Furthermore, what Shanks holds isn't an everyday sword - it's a different type. Also, what WB holds is also generalized as a sword - but it's not specifically classified as one. Meaning, Mihawk>WB because WB is a swordsman and Mihawk is the strongest swordsman, correct? So I guess Oda fvcked up since he called WB the WSM even though Mihawk is >him. Huh... guess Oda forgets his shit time-to-time, eh?
 

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I believe Shanks is stronger. Mihawk just doesnt have the same impact on people as Shanks. Also, I dont believe he is a true swordsman.
Shanks has a powerful crew(reason why he is a conqueror-Yonkou) when Mihawk is a loner, not interested in such things. It's no wonder in this case that Shanks would be more influential, but in actual individual battle Mihawk is stronger
 

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Shanks has a powerful crew(reason why he is a conqueror-Yonkou) when Mihawk is a loner, not interested in such things. It's no wonder in this case that Shanks would be more influential, but in actual individual battle Mihawk is stronger
They were scared shitless when Shanks arrived at the war, while Mihawk was being held off by mere commanders.
 

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They were scared shitless when Shanks arrived at the war, while Mihawk was being held off by mere commanders.
Marine was already terribly affected from their previous battle against WSM's crew. Engaging another Yonkou crew after that wouldn't have been reasonable. Not even that, but they had no reason to fight Shanks. Marine's goal was to kill Ace, and they succeeded in it. And what do you mean by Mihawk getting held off by mere commanders? We didn't even see proper fighting during that war because of the amount of protagonists involved, with Mihawk barely interested in fighting
 

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Marine was already terribly affected from their previous battle against WSM's crew. Engaging another Yonkou crew after that wouldn't have been reasonable. Not even that, but they had no reason to fight Shanks. Marine's goal was to kill Ace, and they succeeded in it. And what do you mean by Mihawk getting held off by mere commanders? We didn't even see proper fighting during that war because of the amount of protagonists involved, with Mihawk barely interested in fighting
Mihawk was trying to measure what the 'real' distance was between him and Whitebeard. This implies that he believes there was quite a big difference in strenght between the two of them. Shanks is arguably stronger than old Whitebeard.

Does that mean Shanks > Mihawk? I believe so.
 

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Anyway, for everyone who says Mihawk>Shanks because they're both swordsman and the former is the WSS, so dumbcvnt-logic dictates Mihawk>Shanks.
Tell me this: how in the hell do you even think Mihawk became the WSS? Did he go around fighting every single swordsman to exist? Or did he make an open-event on Facebook inviting anyone & everyone to come to his castle on his island so they can fight him to see who's the stronger swordsman? 'Cause if that's the case, then fvck-it, Mihawk>Shanks all day; erry day.
But not even in any dimension of Hell is that even plausible. So this begs the question: how did Mihawk attain that title? Simple, because every fvcking fight he's been in, he used a sword and beat every one of his Goddamn opponents with a bloody sword. Whereas Shanks most definitely used his fists & feet in almost all of his battles. Which means, when word got out about them and the world was introduced to rumors about them, Mihawk would obviously be hyped as someone unbeatable in swordsmanship and Shanks would be hyped as nothing specific since he used many fighting styles someone but he'd be hyped as someone who's simply so... strong... (evidence: was Luffy renowned as anything specific (martial-artist, Rubberman, etc) after his first bounty? No. Was Zoro renowned as the man who fvcks shit up with 3 swords prior to Luffy meeting him? Yes).

So there ya have it folks; "how can the WSS be weaker than another swordsman?" Because the former is renowned to the entire fvcking world (via hype) as the best swordsman since he's unbeatable in swordsmanship; and the latter is renowned as someone who's hella strong since he has a diverse arsenal/array of fighting prowess.




Now please, until any of you show me Mihawk's Facebook event, stop spamming this utterly retarded garbage that you all conclude as logic. :)
 
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Mihawk was trying to measure what the 'real' distance was between him and Whitebeard. This implies that he believes there was quite a big difference in strenght between the two of them. Shanks is arguably stronger than old Whitebeard.

Does that mean Shanks > Mihawk? I believe so.
WB was considered to be the WSM, so considered to be stronger than anyone else. Mihawk and Shanks are then considered to be weaker from his title alone. Mihawk obviously wanted to test his strength against someone considered to be above everyone else in this world. Admitting inferiority to the WSM doesn't mean he is weaker than Shanks since Shanks isn't the WSM
 

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WB was considered to be the WSM, so considered to be stronger than anyone else. Mihawk and Shanks are then considered to be weaker from his title alone. Mihawk obviously wanted to test his strength against someone considered to be above everyone else in this world. Admitting inferiority to the WSM doesn't mean he is weaker than Shanks since Shanks isn't the WSM
Whitebeard was extremely sick and old, which made him significantly weaker IMO. His title might have been a remnant of the old days.
 

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Whitebeard was extremely sick and old, which made him significantly weaker IMO. His title might have been a remnant of the old days.
1- He was still considered the WSM despite his state

2- Even if what you said was true, maybe Mihawk was also trying to test his strength against someone he considered to be the WSM, not taking into consideration his weakened state since he had no reason to believe someone who is considered to be the WSM would be weaker just from the fact he never fought him before. He only knew his strength from his title

3- If he wasn't sick and old, yonkou title wouldn't even have existed since he was Roger's level, so far above current Yonkous. The reason yonkou are even comparable to him is because of his sickness
 
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