Whose pain is greater: Sasuke's or Nagato's?

[shelke]

Am I the only person that thinks this fool takes Naruto too seriously?

You cannot be this moronic? *facepalm*

 

[Transcendence]

Am I the only person that thinks this fool takes Naruto too seriously?

Petty insults will get you nowhere.

And his argument was completely valid given the context of both individuals and the real life application that he stated. Both characters experienced heavy emotional trauma, however the extent of each varied given the circumstances. And in Sasuke's case, it wasn't just his parents who were murdered; it was the entirety of his clan, more so by his own brother. He was effectively living a lie until he found out the truth about Itachi and what the clan was planning. Nagato could at least fall back on Yahiko and Konan and had Jiraiya as a fatherly influence for 3 years. Irregardless, that he lost Yahiko, he didn't lose Konan and he got his revenge on the orchestrator of it all; Hanzo. Sasuke was hell bent on revenge and got it, but it turned out it was a lie, and he killed the final remaining person who cared about him. So even getting the revenge had negative ramifications. I don't see how Nagato had greater Pain, and this is with indicative bias (Nagato being my favorite character).

 

[Johndoesknowall]

Am I the only person that thinks this fool takes Naruto too seriously?

Are you an idiot? We are talking about pain on this thread and he just connected examples of it to the situation at hand. I for one am glad he can back up his comment with something other than a douche comment like yours. All he is saying is that he understands the pain.

Get over yourself.

 

[Byakusharinnegan]

Petty insults will get you nowhere.

And his argument was completely valid given the context of both individuals and the real life application that he stated. Both characters experienced heavy emotional trauma, however the extent of each varied given the circumstances. And in Sasuke's case, it wasn't just his parents who were murdered; it was the entirety of his clan, more so by his own brother. He was effectively living a lie until he found out the truth about Itachi and what the clan was planning. Nagato could at least fall back on Yahiko and Konan and had Jiraiya as a fatherly influence for 3 years. Irregardless, that he lost Yahiko, he didn't lose Konan and he got his revenge on the orchestrator of it all; Hanzo. Sasuke was hell bent on revenge and got it, but it turned out it was a lie, and he killed the final remaining person who cared about him. So even getting the revenge had negative ramifications. I don't see how Nagato had greater Pain, and this is with indicative bias (Nagato being my favorite character).

Sigh. I get his point, but my point was that he took this so seriously he couldn't even detect a joke.

 

[Transcendence]

Sigh. I get his point, but my point was that he took this so seriously he couldn't even detect a joke.

Well, you should have specified it then.

 

[shelke]

Sigh. I get his point, but my point was that he took this so seriously he couldn't even detect a joke.

I am not Sasuke preach-squad here, but I suppose this cry-baby comment throws me off every time that I lose a bit of restraint. Since I have seen real life people reeling from such loses, I cannot stomach such jokes. I usually don't even post in this manner, but I suppose, NB has its way of getting on my nerves some times.

 

[Transcendence]

I am not Sasuke preach-squad here, but I suppose this cry-baby comment throws me off every time that I lose a bit of restraint. Since I have seen real life people reeling from such loses, I cannot stomach such jokes. I usually don't even post in this manner, but I suppose, NB has its way of getting on my nerves some times.

It happens to many of us, my friend.

 

[shelke]

It happens to many of us, my friend.

It is happening to me way too often, lately. Lol I am thinking of taking a month long break like I usually do. Might start working and editing on my pending novel.

 

[Transcendence]

It is happening to me way too often, lately. Lol I am thinking of taking a month long break like I usually do. Might start working and editing on my pending novel.

But we need at least some people with intelligence left! Don't leave. And, do you mind VMing a synopsis of the novel when it is read? I'd love to read.

 

[RikudouMadara]

Itachis was greater than both. But between the two Nagato.

 

[brizzy]

nagato's because they both lost their family, but nagato's best friend was also killed

 

[Avinash012]

You don't know what you're talking about.
It's not about knowing if they hated him or not. It's about allowing corruption to seep through from the top to the rest of the villagers.

I'll give you a simple analogy of a similar (not identical) situation.
Nazi Party, Germany. Not all Germans were against the Jews as Hitler was BUT, because power from the top seems to speak for the whole people, it becomes viewed that way. The Jews were viewed as (Not even going to write names) throughout Germany because of Power from the top.

Who you have in charge speaks volumes of how you operate.

Look at how Sasuke and Itachi are viewed in Konoha. As criminals because it was an order from the top to label them as such.
FFS, look at how the Rookies reacted to Sasuke when he reached the battlefield. Had they known everything of what he had been through when he left the village and learned everything as Naruto had, would they have had the same reaction?

It's corruption, it's dirty politics and it needs to die.

No matter how hard u try u can't change the facts...Villagers had never shown any kind of hatred towords Sasuke...Iam talking about Sasuke when he is in village and They never hate Sasuke when he is with Orochimaru..They started to hate him after learning that he turned into a rough nin also Sasuke don't give a dam abt that hatred of villagers

 

[Raekwon26]

No matter how hard u try u can't change the facts...Villagers had never shown any kind of hatred towords Sasuke...Iam talking about Sasuke when he is in village and They never hate Sasuke when he is with Orochimaru..They started to hate him after learning that he turned into a rough nin also Sasuke don't give a dam abt that hatred of villagers

I'm not changing any facts, you're just not grasping a simple concept.

Sasuke didn't care whether the villagers hated him or not while he was in the village because just like him, they knew nothing of the corruption that was at the top of the village. Of course he's not going to have anything against them at that time, he had no reason to and vice versa.
Why would they hate Sasuke when he was a kid in the village?
What would he have done that would have garnered their hatred?

You are making zero sense.

They did hate Sasuke when he left with Orochimaru because they saw it as a guy who just joined someone who was involved with the destruction of their village and had a big hand in the murder of their Hokage. So no idea what you're talking about they're as well....

Also, Sasuke doesn't give a damn about the villagers, but he gives a damn about how his clan is talked about and presented. Are you forgetting how Sasuke reacted when he heard those Shinobi speaking ill of Itachi?
Have you forgotten that?
He was angry at the fact that those people knew nothing of the sacrifices his brother made for them simply because the people in charge wanted to keep the status quo.

 

[Cooh]

Sasuke, this isn't even debateable.