[VS] Does Orochimaru stand a chance now? (Orochimaru vs Itachi)

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Nah, this isn't how Zetsu's spores work man. They stick to his body and then they grow when Zetsu activates them.

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They're not inside his body, they're on his body so Itachi could throw them away from him by activating the Susano'o, but that could possibly make the spores just bigger.
OH, I thought they worked like regular Mushroom spores, but if that's the case can't Orochimaru just leach under Susano'o and zap Itachi's chakra with a touch, if/when given the chance?
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OH, I thought they worked like regular Mushroom spores, but if that's the case can't Orochimaru just leach under Susano'o and zap Itachi's chakra with a touch, if/when given the chance?
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Yes, Oro can counter Susano'o, but I was just talking about the Zetsu Spores. :p
 

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Just realized I said... Sasuke. Meant Itachi.
 

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Well he did fall for Itachi's Genjutsu before so Itachi will kill him off with a Genjutsu again, but if he does indeed have a counter to Itachi's Genjutsu then Orochimaru wins since he can counter every last of Itachi's techniques except his Genjutsu.

Fall? Ok, the correction is he didnt fall into anything. He simple stood face to face with Itachi and wasput INTO genjutsu. Falling is avoiding and than being ccaptured.
 

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I'm not sure that Orochimaru can use Zetsu spores man, but does he have a counter to them.. Depends if those spores will absorb the Chakra from Susano'o before it expands and throws away the spores from his body. However, if that fails to throw the spores from his body then no, he can't counter them.

he can't, but read OP. There are special conditions.


Nah, this isn't how Zetsu's spores work man. They stick to his body and then they grow when Zetsu activates them.

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They're not inside his body, they're on his body so Itachi could throw them away from him by activating the Susano'o, but that could possibly make the spores just bigger.

That would work if susanoo started below the spores, but it doesn't.
 

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Oro has Zetsu's abilities? Yeah, Oro definitely wins this.
 

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What the hell did I just read in this thread? People actually think Orochimaru stands a chance of beating Itachi just because he got Zetsu's body? Which has a moveset of Mayfly, spores, and fodder Mokuton..:|

Itachi still manhandles him like he has every time they met in the manga, his strongest tech, Eight Branches was raped by Susanoo, adding weaker techniques isn't helping him here at all.

-Spores aren't getting past Susanoo to attach to Itachi's body and suck his chakra.

-Orochimaru isn't touching Itachi while he's inside Susanoo, that doesn't even make sense. There is only room in Susanoo for one, not two.
 

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Tsukuyomi one shots. Totsuka one shots. No counter for Genjutsu. He can't keep up with his speed. Itachi is tiers above Orochimaru.
 

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Nope; nothing has changed. It's still super-genius Itachi + genjutsu mastery vs. Orochimara + his snakes + his scientific genius

It's a burden Orochimaru is just going to have to live with: always being second best to Itachi.
 

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Orochimaru will always seek for an Uchiha, failing to become one himself.
 

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Unless he has edo tensei I don't see Oro winning unless we get more feats from him in his new body.
 

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oro absorbed everything that kabuto knew about itachi. thus he knows about izaanmi. he knows about genjutsu. he knows about totsuka sword. he knows all that shit. meaning that going up against him in a fight with close combat, hes well aware thats pointless suicide. he can stand back and merely spam snakes till itachis too exhausted to do much of anything.

also with access to all zetsu powers, that means oro can siphon off clones to feint itachi, and he can also phase through the ground to avoid attacks. if hes intangible/fused with the ground totsuka cannot defeat him

The manga has stated many times that Itachi is invincible.
yet he feared akatsuki and made no moves to stop them destroying the world

Tsukuyomi one shots. Totsuka one shots. No counter for Genjutsu. He can't keep up with his speed. Itachi is tiers above Orochimaru.
tskuyomi is useless because oro is aware of it now. totsuka is countered by zetsu intangibility.
no counter? he absorbed kabutos intel meaning he can use that to his advantage and avoid eye contact.
oro's speed feats beat itachi's given oro kept up with 4 tailed kyuubi. also itachi was never known for speed nor would physical attacks do anything.

super-genius Itachi + genjutsu mastery vs. Orochimara + his snakes + his scientific genius
alot has changed. itachi is not a "super genius" actually hes a colossal fool who cant actually fight. all he ever did was spam hax


Itachi still manhandles him like he has every time they met in the manga, his strongest tech
no he doesnt actually. he stands no chance. oro is well aware of every last one of itachis powers. meaning hes well aware he should stay back and use long range jutsus. itachi has no long range jtusus capable of beating this . thinking oro is just going to rush in like a fool like their other clashes is a mistake.

Eight Branches was raped by Susanoo,
its faster. if itachi wants to go in susano thats his problem. oro can merely keep his distance using the hydra as a buffer defence
 
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its faster. if itachi wants to go in susano thats his problem. oro can merely keep his distance using the hydra as a buffer defence

Based on what? Surely nothing in the manga. Let him use Eight Branches, Itachi effortlessly closes the distances and seals him away like he did in the manga.

Your whole strategy is based on the fact that Orochimaru keeps his distance the whole fight while Itachi sits there and watches him do so....lmao get outta here.
 

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Wasn't it implied Orochimaru could use Sage Mode with a stronger body?

Orochimaru learned senjutsu but was unable to use Sage Mode because his host bodies were not strong enough to support this power.

If so he wins this.
 

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Restrictions: Edo Tensei, because if I didn't restrict this Orochimaru would stomp Neg difficulty.
Distance: 100m
Location: In DSM Kabuto's cave.
Intel: Manga knowledge
Characters: Current Orochimaru, Healthy Itachi.
Notes: Take into consideration, that Orochimaru can absorb ones chakra in a single touch. Susano'o is weak against underground attacks. If you're going to use Yata Mirror hype, Hydra hype must be used aswell. Orochimaru has access to all of Zetsu's abilities, including spores, MayFly etc.

No baseless fanboys for either character.
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"Susano'o is weak against underground attacks."
no it isn't
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