[Predictions] Kakashi to teach naruto one more technique?...

[Devlin]

Ok so this popped into my head seeing as someone refreshed a really old thread of mine about minato's thunder god jutsu.Think about it kakashi has the ability to copy techniques via sharingan?Minato was his sensei?From the period where obito dies in the kakashi gaiden does anyone not think that minato may have shown kakashi how to perform it?I mean he even passed on one of minato's kunai as a present to kakashi maybe he'll give technique to naruto?Thought it would raise some discussion as people have been saying that naruto would have no one to learn it from

 

[squiremarcus]

Ok so this popped into my head seeing as someone refreshed a really old thread of mine about minato's thunder god jutsu.Think about it kakashi has the ability to copy techniques via sharingan?Minato was his sensei?From the period where obito dies in the kakashi gaiden does anyone not think that minato may have shown kakashi how to perform it?I mean he even passed on one of minato's kunai as a present to naruto?Thought it would raise some discussion as people have been saying that naruto would have no one to learn it from

hmmm it would be cool. he knew rasengan and all

 

[Vergil..]

yeah it would be cool but there are other ways without somone teaching him how to use it and that's if the 4th left some secret scroll destined to naruto has parting gift where Minato's jutsu is explained there like the 1st hokages scroll of forbiden jutsu.

this way he could self teach the move or have kakashi help out

 

[sakum0n0leonmccash]

Ok so this popped into my head seeing as someone refreshed a really old thread of mine about minato's thunder god jutsu.Think about it kakashi has the ability to copy techniques via sharingan?Minato was his sensei?From the period where obito dies in the kakashi gaiden does anyone not think that minato may have shown kakashi how to perform it?I mean he even passed on one of minato's kunai as a present to kakashi maybe he'll give technique to naruto?Thought it would raise some discussion as people have been saying that naruto would have no one to learn it from

I feel that if Kakashi knew that technique he would've used it especially in the fights against Itachi, Hidan and Pein.

BUT... Kakashi is sooo good at replacement jutsu and ending up somewhere else that he even fooled someone as great as Itachi who has one of the best Sharingans.... So Kishi may have instilled Kakashi with Hiraishin without disclosing it to us!

 

[cryhwks]

that would be cool but what i would like to see is minato teach naruto from inside his mind but i dont know if minato being there was a one time thing

 

[twistedlink]

Meh, getting a bit annoying having naruto learn old techs, his only real unique new technique he learnt himself is Sage mode FRS (as kakashi helped make original FRS)

I think naruto needs to stop learning old stuff and start up some new ninjutsu, and maybe even begin considering some genjutsu if he ever wants to defend himself against them pesky sharingan users.

Also the 4th when visiting naruto in his mind when pain attacked and naruto went 8/9 tails said tobi saw through all of his moves, undoubtebly minato used FTG jutsu and tobi obviously saw through it.

TBH minatos FTG jutsu isn't actually that great, once you realise he keeps teleporting wherever hes thrown his kunai (observation skills required, but anyone of high jounin ranking should have that level of observation).

Its easy to dodge once you understand how it works, just dont go anywhere near the seal kunai lol.

If naruto wants to beat akatsuki he needs to start making brand new moves.

I believe zetsu has been recording peoples fighting for YEARS and this is how tobi saw through minatos moves, he had zetsu record everything so tobi knew every secret of his and exactly how to dodge it as soon as he met him, and with sharingan and minato knowing none of his jutsu, he was at a MASSIVE advantage, especially with the fox too.

Zetsu also recorded narutos sage mode so tobi will more than likely know how to tackle naruto at his current strength and jutsus.

Therefore i believe it is essential and definite naruto will learn more techs and maybe new element.

 

[platinum69]

yeah it would be cool but there are other ways without somone teaching him how to use it and that's if the 4th left some secret scroll destined to naruto has parting gift where Minato's jutsu is explained there like the 1st hokages scroll of forbiden jutsu.

this way he could self teach the move or have kakashi help out

That would be awesome... not only will he learn his dad's jutsu... but hopefully some killer jutsu's from 1st Hokage's scroll of forbidden jutsu as well... maybe some long range jutsu...

I would like him to learn more Sage jutsu... or learn to do Sage mode while running and being attacked... I'm still hoping in Sage mode he will be able to control all elemental chakra...


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[platinum69]

Meh, getting a bit annoying having naruto learn old techs, his only real unique new technique he learnt himself is Sage mode FRS (as kakashi helped make original FRS)

I think naruto needs to stop learning old stuff and start up some new ninjutsu, and maybe even begin considering some genjutsu if he ever wants to defend himself against them pesky sharingan users.

Also the 4th when visiting naruto in his mind when pain attacked and naruto went 8/9 tails said tobi saw through all of his moves, undoubtebly minato used FTG jutsu and tobi obviously saw through it.

TBH minatos FTG jutsu isn't actually that great, once you realise he keeps teleporting wherever hes thrown his kunai (observation skills required, but anyone of high jounin ranking should have that level of observation).

Its easy to dodge once you understand how it works, just dont go anywhere near the seal kunai lol.

If naruto wants to beat akatsuki he needs to start making brand new moves.

I believe zetsu has been recording peoples fighting for YEARS and this is how tobi saw through minatos moves, he had zetsu record everything so tobi knew every secret of his and exactly how to dodge it as soon as he met him, and with sharingan and minato knowing none of his jutsu, he was at a MASSIVE advantage, especially with the fox too.

Zetsu also recorded narutos sage mode so tobi will more than likely know how to tackle naruto at his current strength and jutsus.

Therefore i believe it is essential and definite naruto will learn more techs and maybe new element.

Awesome post! too right bro...


Naruto has always been saying that he will create new jutsu to bring Sasuke back... but all he got were hand me downs... true he took Rasengan to the next level to FRS then completed it by throwing it in Sage mode... But he hasn't really come up or any new jutsus ooh wait my fav "Oiroke No Jutsu" even dou we never got to see it... it must of been off the hook...

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... but I would really like to see him come up with a offensive attack...

But if he some how learns the 4th jutsu... will it still be enough to help him beat Madara... he will need to evolve it like he did the Rasengan... make it to Madara level...

I hope Naruto is able to create such new jutsu... a jutsu with another element would be cool... I completely agree with you when you say Naruto needs new jutsu...



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[naturo9]

<<is back from 3day banned:

i haven't seen you for a while platinum69. welcome back, i guess.

i guess naruto needs to put his own sexy jutsu into next level. i bet once he will see mizukage, he will copy her and put her into next level

 

[leafeater]

Meh, getting a bit annoying having naruto learn old techs, his only real unique new technique he learnt himself is Sage mode FRS (as kakashi helped make original FRS)

I think naruto needs to stop learning old stuff and start up some new ninjutsu, and maybe even begin considering some genjutsu if he ever wants to defend himself against them pesky sharingan users.

Also the 4th when visiting naruto in his mind when pain attacked and naruto went 8/9 tails said tobi saw through all of his moves, undoubtebly minato used FTG jutsu and tobi obviously saw through it.

TBH minatos FTG jutsu isn't actually that great, once you realise he keeps teleporting wherever hes thrown his kunai (observation skills required, but anyone of high jounin ranking should have that level of observation).

Its easy to dodge once you understand how it works, just dont go anywhere near the seal kunai lol.

If naruto wants to beat akatsuki he needs to start making brand new moves.

I believe zetsu has been recording peoples fighting for YEARS and this is how tobi saw through minatos moves, he had zetsu record everything so tobi knew every secret of his and exactly how to dodge it as soon as he met him, and with sharingan and minato knowing none of his jutsu, he was at a MASSIVE advantage, especially with the fox too.

Zetsu also recorded narutos sage mode so tobi will more than likely know how to tackle naruto at his current strength and jutsus.

Therefore i believe it is essential and definite naruto will learn more techs and maybe new element.

Kakashi only developed Chidori, and he uses Obito's sharingan to copy/learn other jutsu. He also developed Kamui from the MS. I don't think less of him for it. He learned all of these jutsu using the Sharingan, and became famous as the copy ninja. Kakashi, took what fit his strengths, and enhanced them.

Naruto has perfected and exceeded every jutsu's known capability or peoples' capability to learn the jutsu (FRS even before sage mode). Further, no one uses mass shadow clones like he does as no one can teach him. He's using them to such a level that they fooled Nagato. Finally, Naruto will be developing a jutsu using the Kyuubi that obviously no one else can do, and it will be on a level to stop Madara.

If Naruto gets the Kunei and an explanation from Kakashi, Naruto will perfect it. Kakashi will point out the strengths and weaknesses. Keep in mind that the Minato's flicker jutsu can't be tracked by the Sharingan. Naruto will accentuate and perfect the strengths while removing or minimizing the weaknesses.

People pass on jutsu to their progeny or students so that people don't start over every time someone dies. It was his father's jutsu, what is so wrong with that? Think of all the clans in Konoha that pass on their jutsu. Remember it's not about how many jutsu you have, but what you do with them. For example, Naruto blocked Shinra Tensei with his shadow clones, which surprised Nagato and was not shown to be done before.

Bottom line: Naruto has surpassed Kakashi and doesn't need any new techniques. He needs to perfect what he has and the Kyuubi jutsu, which will make him able to defeat Madara. People will still think less of Naruto because he didn't use a 1,000 jutsu to do it.

 

[cryhwks]

naruto may learn old ninjutsu but he makes them better like the shadow clones no one use'es the clones like naruto and rasengan he made frs no one every did that and sage mode naruto is stronger then jiraiya and for genjutsu thats what the kyuubi is for he will be able to do like bee did with the 8 tails switch chakra flow

 

[twistedlink]

Kakashi only developed Chidori, and he uses Obito's sharingan to copy/learn other jutsu. He also developed Kamui from the MS. I don't think less of him for it. He learned all of these jutsu using the Sharingan, and became famous as the copy ninja. Kakashi, took what fit his strengths, and enhanced them.

agreed, but i wasnt really talking about kakashi, i was talking about naruto

Naruto has perfected and exceeded every jutsu's known capability or peoples' capability to learn the jutsu (FRS even before sage mode).

He eventually and has just exceeded the rasengan after 9 years of the series being out, before that he had standard rasengan which is an old move of his dads. Even Jman had improved on rasengan better.

Further, no one uses mass shadow clones like he does as no one can teach him. He's using them to such a level that they fooled Nagato.

They didn't fool nagato, he was just simply outnumbered and rasengans were being flown everywhere, there were 5 pains active with limited chakras due to pain using his big ass shinra tensei, and when a sage plus 5 warrior toads appear you dont have much defence or attack left.

So no they didnt fool nagato, nagato was simply assessing the situation and some bodies were beaten.

Finally, Naruto will be developing a jutsu using the Kyuubi that obviously no one else can do, and it will be on a level to stop Madara.

Maybe, he doesnt appear to like the fox and neither the fox like he.

It's been 10 years and he still doesn't actually use the fox cooperatively, it just releases itself and goes beserk.
I dont want to wait until im 32 years old to see him make a 9tails/naruto jutsu.

If Naruto gets the Kunei and an explanation from Kakashi, Naruto will perfect it. Kakashi will point out the strengths and weaknesses. Keep in mind that the Minato's flicker jutsu can't be tracked by the Sharingan. Naruto will accentuate and perfect the strengths while removing or minimizing the weaknesses.

proof??? manga chapter please?? I think you will find i have a manga page saying tobi (who has sharingan) saw through all yondaimes jutsu (meaning FTG). Even if tobi didnt use sharingan to understand FTG, it means FTG can be beaten by tobi

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People pass on jutsu to their progeny or students so that people don't start over every time someone dies. It was his father's jutsu, what is so wrong with that? Think of all the clans in Konoha that pass on their jutsu. Remember it's not about how many jutsu you have, but what you do with them. For example, Naruto blocked Shinra Tensei with his shadow clones, which surprised Nagato and was not shown to be done before.

Bottom line: Naruto has surpassed Kakashi and doesn't need any new techniques. He needs to perfect what he has and the Kyuubi jutsu, which will make him able to defeat Madara. People will still think less of Naruto because he didn't use a 1,000 jutsu to do it.[/QUOTE]


I still think zetsu records everyones fights and skills so tobi can make defence tactics before even meeting them.

Imagine seeing every battle someone has fought, and knowing all there trumps etc before fighting them.

Imagine Jiraiya seeing every battle pain fought, Jman would OWN pain extremely fast if that were the case.

 

[cryhwks]

He eventually and has just exceeded the rasengan after 9 years of the series being out, before that he had standard rasengan which is an old move of his dads. Even Jman had improved on rasengan better.

yeah it took naruto like a month to master the rasengan it took the 4th 2 years to do it and in the naruto world he has only known the rasengan like 3 or 4 years and he did level it up before frs with odema rasengan and just because he has not mastered the kyuubi does not mean he wont thats like naruto's last power he has to master when he does the manga wont go on for much longer

 

[Naruto1217]

Ok so this popped into my head seeing as someone refreshed a really old thread of mine about minato's thunder god jutsu.Think about it kakashi has the ability to copy techniques via sharingan?Minato was his sensei?From the period where obito dies in the kakashi gaiden does anyone not think that minato may have shown kakashi how to perform it?I mean he even passed on one of minato's kunai as a present to kakashi maybe he'll give technique to naruto?Thought it would raise some discussion as people have been saying that naruto would have no one to learn it from

That is a distink possiblity, the only question that I have to ask is How come we havent seen Kakashi Use it in the manga? Where I think this is possible for Kakashi to know it and Teach Naruto, I believe its more Possible that he'll learn it from a scroll left behind by his dad. :headband:

 

[leafeater]

agreed, but i wasnt really talking about kakashi, i was talking about naruto



He eventually and has just exceeded the rasengan after 9 years of the series being out, before that he had standard rasengan which is an old move of his dads. Even Jman had improved on rasengan better.



They didn't fool nagato, he was just simply outnumbered and rasengans were being flown everywhere, there were 5 pains active with limited chakras due to pain using his big ass shinra tensei, and when a sage plus 5 warrior toads appear you dont have much defence or attack left.

So no they didnt fool nagato, nagato was simply assessing the situation and some bodies were beaten.



Maybe, he doesnt appear to like the fox and neither the fox like he.

It's been 10 years and he still doesn't actually use the fox cooperatively, it just releases itself and goes beserk.
I dont want to wait until im 32 years old to see him make a 9tails/naruto jutsu.




proof??? manga chapter please?? I think you will find i have a manga page saying tobi (who has sharingan) saw through all yondaimes jutsu (meaning FTG). Even if tobi didnt use sharingan to understand FTG, it means FTG can be beaten by tobi

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People pass on jutsu to their progeny or students so that people don't start over every time someone dies. It was his father's jutsu, what is so wrong with that? Think of all the clans in Konoha that pass on their jutsu. Remember it's not about how many jutsu you have, but what you do with them. For example, Naruto blocked Shinra Tensei with his shadow clones, which surprised Nagato and was not shown to be done before.

Bottom line: Naruto has surpassed Kakashi and doesn't need any new techniques. He needs to perfect what he has and the Kyuubi jutsu, which will make him able to defeat Madara. People will still think less of Naruto because he didn't use a 1,000 jutsu to do it.

I still think zetsu records everyones fights and skills so tobi can make defence tactics before even meeting them.

Imagine seeing every battle someone has fought, and knowing all there trumps etc before fighting them.

Imagine Jiraiya seeing every battle pain fought, Jman would OWN pain extremely fast if that were the case.[/QUOTE]

Naruto did fool god realm with Shadow clones disguised as rubble.

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Naruto used Shadow clones to block Shinra Tensei:

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Naruto combined these tactics to kill god realm with Rasengan. Kishimoto states that Naruto is using the technique Jiraiya taught him, indicating the importance of the heritage:

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They didn't fool nagato, he was just simply outnumbered and rasengans were being flown everywhere, there were 5 pains active with limited chakras due to pain using his big ass shinra tensei, and when a sage plus 5 warrior toads appear you dont have much defence or attack left.

Naruto used Shadow clones, Rasengans, sage-mode, Kyuubi broken seal mode, and summons to defeat Pein. Note that the bodies were dead before he ran out of chakra (Pein), and I doubt any amount of chakra would've made a Chibaku Tensei to hold the 9-tails. Thus, chakra shouldn't be the cause of defeat.

If Jiraiya saw every battle, he could own Nagato perhaps, most likely even. Shinobi like to keep secrets for this very reason. It's not like we the reader and most likely Pein ever saw sage mode Jiraiya. Of course we'll never know.

Regarding taming the Kyuubi. Is there any precedent for this happening so we have a timeline? To my knowledge, we don't even know if it's possible except that Naruto is the main character, so I don't see that as a fair criticism.

It's been 10 years and he still doesn't actually use the fox cooperatively, it just releases itself and goes beserk.
I dont want to wait until im 32 years old to see him make a 9tails/naruto jutsu.

It hasn't been ten years for Naruto, he's 15, and has been an orphan ninja for 3-4 years with sometime with Jiriaya. The rate at which the Narutoverse matches ours, depends on Kishimoto.

I'm sure someone can cite that the 4th's body flicker jutsu is one of the non-kekkei genkeis that can't be tracked by the Sharingan. How did Madara do it? I don't know, but not everything an Uchiha does is via the Sharingan.

We have no idea how long Zetsu has been working with Madara or how long he's been alive, so we don't know what fights he has filmed.

Sasuke uses more jutsu than Naruto including MS, but at the moment Zetsu has suggested he's not as powerful as boring old Naruto.