Sage Mode Naruto vs Hebi Sasuke (REALLY NEED HELP, Cant decide)

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For some reason, I have a very hard time deciding who is superior. If both of these guys fought to the bitter end with everything they had, who would come out on top?


IN order to decide who would be better, Ive established some reasonable points that need to be decided before choosing:

1) Who is faster? Both have immense speed. But who is truly faster.
2) In hand to hand combat, who wins? Can A transformed CM Sasuke keep up with Naruto? Is it even? Are they close enough for it not to make a drastic difference?
3) What is Sasuke's answer for Rasenshuriken? Can he defend against such move? (Was thinking maybe he could use manda or even summon rashomon.
4) What is Naruto's Answer for Kirin asside from stopping Sasuke from forming it? Do you think hiding in Gamabunta would protect Naruto? Is there a way for Naruto to counter it?
5) Would Manda and Aoba(Sasuke's new snake) help much against 3 giant toads and fukasaku and his wife?
6) Would Sasuke need to resort to using Oro's 8 branches? Can Naruto take that out?

DISCUSS THIS AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. PLease no flame wars. I want reasonable debating.
 

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Put the 2 characters in each others fights.

Would the other have done it better, easier, or even harder than the other?

Determine the fights in each others shoes to determine who is superior.
 

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1) Who is faster? Both have immense speed. But who is truly faster. Sasuke is faster but in sage mode naruto is better in dodging
2) In hand to hand combat, who wins? Can A transformed CM Sasuke keep up with Naruto? Is it even? Are they close enough for it not to make a drastic difference? Naruto and his frog kata
3) What is Sasuke's answer for Rasenshuriken? Can he defend against such move? (Was thinking maybe he could use manda or even summon rashomon. Susanoo
4) What is Naruto's Answer for Kirin asside from stopping Sasuke from forming it? Do you think hiding in Gamabunta would protect Naruto? Is there a way for Naruto to counter it? Dodging it. Its one of naruto's SM feats
5) Would Manda and Aoba(Sasuke's new snake) help much against 3 giant toads and fukasaku and his wife? Don't Think so
6) Would Sasuke need to resort to using Oro's 8 branches? Can Naruto take that out? I think he can
 

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1) Who is faster? Both have immense speed. But who is truly faster. Sasuke is faster but in sage mode naruto is better in dodging
2) In hand to hand combat, who wins? Can A transformed CM Sasuke keep up with Naruto? Is it even? Are they close enough for it not to make a drastic difference? Naruto and his frog kata
3) What is Sasuke's answer for Rasenshuriken? Can he defend against such move? (Was thinking maybe he could use manda or even summon rashomon. Susanoo
4) What is Naruto's Answer for Kirin asside from stopping Sasuke from forming it? Do you think hiding in Gamabunta would protect Naruto? Is there a way for Naruto to counter it? Dodging it. Its one of naruto's SM feats
5) Would Manda and Aoba(Sasuke's new snake) help much against 3 giant toads and fukasaku and his wife? Don't Think so
6) Would Sasuke need to resort to using Oro's 8 branches? Can Naruto take that out? I think he can
hebi sasuke doesnt ahve susanoo.....
 
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Restrict orochimaru's hyrda and sage mode naruto wins


Unless you add six tailed naruto as a sagemode (like the video game)

Tie
 

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Put the 2 characters in each others fights.

Would the other have done it better, easier, or even harder than the other?

Determine the fights in each others shoes to determine who is superior.
but this isnt A>B>C. Maybe they won those fights because they were good match ups? What if Danzo is a terrible matchup for sm Naruto? What if Pain is a bad matchup for sasuke? Or what if even third raikage is a bad match up. A can always win against B who has beaten C Who has beaten A
 

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For some reason, I have a very hard time deciding who is superior. If both of these guys fought to the bitter end with everything they had, who would come out on top?


IN order to decide who would be better, Ive established some reasonable points that need to be decided before choosing:

1) Who is faster? Both have immense speed. But who is truly faster.
2) In hand to hand combat, who wins? Can A transformed CM Sasuke keep up with Naruto? Is it even? Are they close enough for it not to make a drastic difference?
3) What is Sasuke's answer for Rasenshuriken? Can he defend against such move? (Was thinking maybe he could use manda or even summon rashomon.
4) What is Naruto's Answer for Kirin asside from stopping Sasuke from forming it? Do you think hiding in Gamabunta would protect Naruto? Is there a way for Naruto to counter it?
5) Would Manda and Aoba(Sasuke's new snake) help much against 3 giant toads and fukasaku and his wife?
6) Would Sasuke need to resort to using Oro's 8 branches? Can Naruto take that out?

DISCUSS THIS AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. PLease no flame wars. I want reasonable debating.
good thread. i like this match up i think its more even in a way..

but heavily favs naruto.

1. i would say sasuke, based on manga. but not by much

2. Probably Naruto due to Op SM effects on taijutsu

3. Evasion flying, clones, replacement, remember hebi sasuke has plenty of was to escape death similar to orochimaru

4. probably senseing it, but he would need to move instantly, i think if sasuke used it, it would be planned out

5. Man i disagree with kishi here... i think snakes>frogs or toads

6. i didnt no sasuke could use that..

overall i think sasuke wins high diff
 
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And SM Naruto can't dodge Kirin, nobody can. :|
cant naruto clear the area before sasuke finishes preparations? Naruto can also go into Gamabunta for protection. Gama should be able to tank kirin considering hes tanked a very powerful shinra tensei and survived (although hurt)

This is just a guess but cant naruto just hold frs above him and block whatever part of kirin comes down on him? like he can hold frs as a shield and use the high speed win to dispel kirin in his area.
 
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good thread. i like this match up i think its more even in a way..

but heavily favs naruto.

1. i would say sasuke, based on manga. but not by much

2. Probably Naruto due to Op SM effects on taijutsu

3. Evasion flying, clones, replacement, remember hebi sasuke has plenty of was to escape death similar to orochimaru

4. probably senseing it, but he would need to move instantly, i think if sasuke used it, it would be planned out

5. Man i disagree with kishi here... i think snakes>frogs or toads

6. i didnt no sasuke could use that..

overall i think sasuke wins high diff
sasuke can use clones? and didnt using body shedding drastically tire sasuke out?
 

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Curse mark Version 2 is essentially a form of sage mode. It could even be seen as an Imperfect sage Mode. If naruto wins, it'd only be with high diff. Any moment naruto actually manages to get in a kill shot, Sasuke could simply use body replacement(oral rebirth). And that's not withstanding Genjutsu to Holt naruto's movements for moments on end.
 
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For some reason, I have a very hard time deciding who is superior. Lol, how is it hard? SM Naruto is clearly superior

If both of these guys fought to the bitter end with everything they had, who would come out on top? SM Nardo


IN order to decide who would be better, Ive established some reasonable points that need to be decided before choosing:

1) Who is faster? Both have immense speed. But who is truly faster. SM Naruto. When he speed blitz and saves Tsunade in the pein arc, also blitz and destroys many other peins. In the war arc, he fights on par with the 3rd (reflexes and speed), speed blitzes zetsu and edo's, and against obito

2) In hand to hand combat, who wins? Can A transformed CM Sasuke keep up with Naruto? Is it even? Are they close enough for it not to make a drastic difference? Not a chance. Frog Kata destroys him.
3) What is Sasuke's answer for Rasenshuriken? Can he defend against such move? (Was thinking maybe he could use manda or even summon rashomon? Doubt those will work because Manda would be occupied by Gama and the other toads. Even if it does work, it's only a one time thing.
4) What is Naruto's Answer for Kirin asside from stopping Sasuke from forming it? Do you think hiding in Gamabunta would protect Naruto? Is there a way for Naruto to counter it? Naruto doesn't need Gama, Sasuke won't have any time forming Kirin when he has 3 giant toads, 2 sage toads, and a mastered Sage after him
5) Would Manda and Aoba(Sasuke's new snake) help much against 3 giant toads and fukasaku and his wife? They would help him last longer, but won't help much
6) Would Sasuke need to resort to using Oro's 8 branches? Can Naruto take that out? That can be taken care of with FRS

DISCUSS THIS AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. PLease no flame wars. I want reasonable debating.
Dere u go, mang
 

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Sage Naruto is far superior.

He almost took down the Six Paths of Pain after all. A feat which surpassed everything we ever saw from Hebi Sasuke...

To the questions:

1. Sage Naruto is definitely faster. Hebi Sasuke is fast, but Sage Mode increases Naruto's speed to whole new levels!

2. Sage Naruto is once again far superior. In hand to hand combat, Sasuke honestly won't stand a chance. With the incredible Physical strength Naruto has he can deal fatal damage to Sasuke with a single hit!! On top of that he has Frog Kata.

3. I don't see him blocking the attack or defending against it any way. If anything he could possibly dodge it, but I don't really know...

4. Maybe he could hide in Gamabunta, but I don't really know... In any case Naruto would take him down before it got to that if he was fighting seriously.

5. Nahh, they'd get stomped by Ma and Pa.

6. Yea, as a last resort i'd guess he'd try using that... But Naruto can probably take it down with a Rasenshuriken or a Giant Rasengan or something like that, so it's not really a big deal here.
 
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Sage Naruto is far superior.

He almost took down the Six Paths of Pain after all. A feat which surpassed everything we ever saw from Hebi Sasuke...

To the questions:

1. Sage Naruto is definitely faster. Hebi Sasuke is fast, but Sage Mode increases Naruto's speed to whole new levels!

2. Sage Naruto is once again far superior. In hand to hand combat, Sasuke honestly won't stand a chance. With the incredible Physical strength Naruto has he can deal fatal damage to Sasuke with a single hit!! On top of that he has Frog Kata.

3. I don't see him blocking the attack or defending against it any way. If anything he could possibly dodge it, but I don't really know...

4. Maybe he could hide in Gamabunta, but I don't really know... In any case Naruto would take him down before it got to that if he was fighting seriously.

5. Nahh, they'd get stomped by Ma and Pa.

6. Yea, as a last resort i'd guess he'd try using that... But Naruto can probably take it down with a Rasenshuriken or a Giant Rasengan or something like that, so it's not really a big deal here.
great points
 
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