Give the gokage a break

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Everyone gets down on them for losing to Madara. Yeah sure they were supposed to be the ultimate team and what not. However it was Madara Uchiha. Plus plot.

I can't think of anyone else who was in the war at the time they fought him who could have won. If you guys say he wasn't trying with them, it further reinforces the fact noone else could have done it because then he would just try for a change no?

Calling them fodders for losing basically makes everyone fodder because none of them could have won. Just saying.

They are just as helpful as anyone on the field right now could be in assisting against Obito and Madara. All of them besides naruto sasuke are basically doing nothing so whats 5 more people?

Stop acting like they were instantly destroyed and now everyone else is somehow better than them. :mad:_@:
 

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People mess with Gokage they mess with Gaara....I ain't likin' that shit...
 

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I was just talking to some idiot about Madara not being badass enough. He said Madara defeating the Gokage was as badass as it gets. I said that isn't a big enough deal since they were fighting in a war and they are actually alive so they can die and tire meanwhile Madara is an Edo with unlimited chakra and he is already dead. I think he was just watching that episode and it means a lot to him.
 

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Stopped reading after you said "plus plot"

I guess we should blame the story for going how the story should go huh?
 

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Madara doesn't need plot to eradicate them. If anything, the kages need plot to survive.

Other than that, i agree. The kage's are pretty powerful.

Edit: After reading your post again, I disagree.

Editing the Edit: Yes, they were almost immediately wrecked after Madara got serious.
 
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People mess with Gokage they mess with Gaara....I ain't likin' that shit...

hell yeah

I was just talking to some idiot about Madara not being badass enough. He said Madara defeating the Gokage was as badass as it gets. I said that isn't a big enough deal since they were fighting in a war and they are actually alive so they can die and tire meanwhile Madara is an Edo with unlimited chakra and he is already dead. I think he was just watching that episode and it means a lot to him.

I agreee, not to mention he used borrowed power in that fight. I discard all Mokuton feats :D
 

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The Gokage are easily a boost.

1. Morale

2. Strong on their own

3. Can only get stronger with Kyubi cloaks (though I'm not a fan).

Their abilities will be a great help against the Juubi or helping Hashirama.
 

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I agreee, not to mention he used borrowed power in that fight. I discard all Mokuton feats :D

Aww come on. Don't tell me you're serious. The kages could barely smash through a regular susano ribcage, the on earth would they be a match for Perfect Susano. Also, Rinnegan and meteorite summons arre just an overkill. Not to mention Madara hasn't shown his other 2 EMS doujutsu, which could be pretty OP'd.
 

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They got stomped by Madara and are now going into battle against Madara + Obito, That's just stupid, nobody wants to see that shit
 

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Gokage/Oro arrival might aswell save this damn manga,got tired of all the Naruto/Sasuke wank every god damn chapter.
 
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I love the gokage I totally agree fangirling over here:flirty::T_T::flowers
 

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People mess with Gokage they mess with Gaara....I ain't likin' that shit...

Exactly.

Gaara solo's anyone who isn't (excluding hype people):

Obito, Hashirama, Madara, Naruto, Nagato, Kabuto, and Sasuke. And would only lose to Orochimaru because ET (which is exterior power, not really a 1v1), and Kisame if Gaara isn't supported by a desert location.

Gaara is the Solo God, hit me up when your favorite solo's 2 Kage's then helps stop a meteor.
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Exactly.

Gaara solo's anyone who isn't (excluding hype people):

Obito, Hashirama, Madara, Naruto, Nagato, Kabuto, and Sasuke. And would only lose to Orochimaru because ET (which is exterior power, not really a 1v1), and Kisame if Gaara isn't supported by a desert location.

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Tobirama > Gaara

Suiton > Sand

Although Gaara is a baller
 

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Tobirama > Gaara

Suiton > Sand

Although Gaara is a baller

Tobirama's Suiton =

Gaara can work with water in his sand, doesn't phase this King one bit:
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Aww come on. Don't tell me you're serious. The kages could barely smash through a regular susano ribcage, the on earth would they be a match for Perfect Susano. Also, Rinnegan and meteorite summons arre just an overkill. Not to mention Madara hasn't shown his other 2 EMS doujutsu, which could be pretty OP'd.

I'm not saying it mattered. But he still used what wasn't his, as OP as he is supposed to be.

Gokage/Oro arrival might aswell save this damn manga,got tired of all the Naruto/Sasuke wank every god damn chapter.

I'm tired of it too.
 

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I actually kinda feel bad for them cause they've kinda been overshadowed in the spots they have been given

First Tsunade looks inept, useless against Pain during the invasion and allows the village to get demolished. And low & behold, Sage Mode Naruto surpasses her then & there and does her job in stopping Pain

Sasuke takes on four of the kages at once and survives with an incomplete Susano'o and almost did A in with Amaterasu if not for Gaara coming in and stopping A from sustaining further damage from and being consumed by Amaterasu...one can only think that now that Sasuke now has EMS and a complete Susano'o he takes them out now

Then to be made to look like fodder compared to Madara

I recognize that they're the best in their respective village, with the exception of Tsunade being surpassed by both Sasuke & Naruto, but they're below Sasuke, Naruto and all the previous 4 Hokages who seem to have been able to handle Madara and contain him & Obito prior to Obito becoming jinchuriki

They're no longer relevent, and I weep for the previous hokages thinking they left the world in better hands when their successor didn't turn out to be greater, let alone not equal to, any of the predecessors

But the Gokages are still among the greatest shinobi currently living only behind Naruto, Sasuke, Sage Kabuto & Obito
 

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I actually kinda feel bad for them cause they've kinda been overshadowed in the spots they have been given

First Tsunade looks inept, useless against Pain during the invasion and allows the village to get demolished. And low & behold, Sage Mode Naruto surpasses her then & there and does her job in stopping Pain

Sasuke takes on four of the kages at once and survives with an incomplete Susano'o and almost did A in with Amaterasu if not for Gaara coming in and stopping A from sustaining further damage from and being consumed by Amaterasu...one can only think that now that Sasuke now has EMS and a complete Susano'o he takes them out now

Then to be made to look like fodder compared to Madara

I recognize that they're the best in their respective village, with the exception of Tsunade being surpassed by both Sasuke & Naruto, but they're below Sasuke, Naruto and all the previous 4 Hokages who seem to have been able to handle Madara and contain him & Obito prior to Obito becoming jinchuriki

They're no longer relevent, and I weep for the previous hokages thinking they left the world in better hands when their successor didn't turn out to be greater, let alone not equal to, any of the predecessors

But the Gokages are still among the greatest shinobi currently living only behind Naruto, Sasuke, Sage Kabuto & Obito

That's all i want, is for them to get recognition. They aren't fodders. At least you see that, btw Madara has not really been going at it since the hokage arrived so it's not like they did much in terms of containing him. How many people are even relevant against someone who is only affected by senjutsu?
 

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The major embarrassment the Gokages received single-handily by Edo Madara was done solely to elevate both Sasuke and Naruto who are both on track at surpassing Madara

the Goakges are only ONLY fodder compared to Madara; especially Rinnegan Madara...but the Gokage are otherwise the cream of the crop

Fodderize the Gokges only against Edo Madara was done to eleavte Madara, and then have Sasuke & Naruto beat or surpass Madara to really elevate those two to another level...this is all about Naruto & Sasuke
 

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The major embarrassment the Gokages received single-handily by Edo Madara was done solely to elevate both Sasuke and Naruto who are both on track at surpassing Madara

the Goakges are only ONLY fodder compared to Madara; especially Rinnegan Madara...but the Gokage are otherwise the cream of the crop

Fodderize the Gokges only against Edo Madara was done to eleavte Madara, and then have Sasuke & Naruto beat or surpass Madara to really elevate those two to another level...this is all about Naruto & Sasuke

^this

I still hold the 4th Raikaga A as being the standard to compare and test one's taijutsu capabilities and prowess; if you can take on A and survive you've arrived

I have to disagree. He doesn't have to be good, hes fast. He wouldn't have to test anyones taijutsu that is significantly slower than him. He can just blitz em. The only thing to test him with is your reaction time and speed IMO.
 
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