[VS] Hypothetical EMS Sasuke vs Hashirama

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And that's why you're a fan boy. He has nothing to take out Shinsenjuu at all. The best he can do is take out Wood Golem/Dragon. Shinsenjuu demolishes his PS.

Do you really think that Shinsenjuu is agile enough to run after PS ?

Its massive , it can't be that fast or agile.

And PS Enton arrows , sword and Shurikens will be on a hole different level than a regular Susanoo.
 

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Sasuke isn't a long range fighter, he's primarily a mid range with some long range moves. All of the above you stated except Kirin can be blocked by the Gates. The battle takes place in the place Naruto fought Pain. If there are the same conditions, that was a clear day, so Kirin can't be used without beforehand preparation. Even if the correct conditions were created, which are unlikely, seeing as intel is full and Hashirama will look to stop Sasuke from preparing, as Trancendence said, Shinsenjuu can probably take it.
 

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Do you really think that Shinsenjuu is agile enough to run after PS ?

Its massive , it can't be that fast or agile.

And PS Enton arrows , sword and Shurikens will be on a hole different level than a regular Susanoo.

None of what you listed has the destructive capacity of Bijuudamas combined with PS Blades.
 

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Do you really think that Shinsenjuu is agile enough to run after PS ?

Its massive , it can't be that fast or agile.

And PS Enton arrows , sword and Shurikens will be on a hole different level than a regular Susanoo.

Shinsenjuu can be used as a shield as well, and a MUCH better one than Rashomon. Wood dragon and wood human can keep Sasuke occupied while Hashirama enters sage mode atop or behind Buddha. Then Hashirama has to do nothing but stall gor the remaining five or less minutes.
 

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Sasuke isn't a long range fighter, he's primarily a mid range with some long range moves. All of the above you stated except Kirin can be blocked by the Gates. The battle takes place in the place Naruto fought Pain. If there are the same conditions, that was a clear day, so Kirin can't be used without beforehand preparation. Even if the correct conditions were created, which are unlikely, seeing as intel is full and Hashirama will look to stop Sasuke from preparing, as Trancendence said, Shinsenjuu can probably take it.

Compared to Hashirama he is a long range fighter , especially with Susanoo , plus with his Enton he can heat the atmosphere rapidly and create the correct conditions for Kirin.

And in worst case scenario he can undo PS , summon his Hawk and spam Kirin and Enton variants ( and in that case he saves a lot of chakra because he isn't using PS )
 
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Shinsenjuu can be used as a shield as well, and a MUCH better one than Rashomon. Wood dragon and wood human can keep Sasuke occupied while Hashirama enters sage mode atop or behind Buddha. Then Hashirama has to do nothing but stall gor the remaining five or less minutes.

Shinsenjuu got destroyed by Bijuu Dama equipped with PS sword but the Rashomon not.
 

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None of what you listed has the destructive capacity of Bijuudamas combined with PS Blades.

For the Enton Shuriken and arrows , yes ( even the ones used by PS but that can be compensate by spamming them ) but for the Enton sword no.
 

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For the Enton Shuriken and arrows , yes ( even the ones used by PS but that can be compensate by spamming them ) but for the Enton sword no.

The Enton sword can't be thrown; this is a battle where Sasuke NEEDS range. If he goes in for CQC, even with PS he gets absolutely demolished by wood dragon, wood human, and Shinsenjuu. Hashirama's not dumb enough to go in himself, seeing as Totsuka would seal him quickly. If Sasuke stands still for too long, Rashomon crush or trap his Susanoo.
 

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The Enton sword can't be thrown; this is a battle where Sasuke NEEDS range. If he goes in for CQC, even with PS he gets absolutely demolished by wood dragon, wood human, and Shinsenjuu. Hashirama's not dumb enough to go in himself, seeing as Totsuka would seal him quickly. If Sasuke stands still for too long, Rashomon crush or trap his Susanoo.

Imagine this with Enton :
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Edit : And no he doesn't need range , he has a lot of long range attacks.
 
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Imagine this with Enton :
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Edit : And no he doesn't need range , he had a lot of long range attacks.

Still doesn't come close to THAT, with Bijuudamas infused... Plus, Madara's attack didn't even completely destroy Shinsenjuu; your hypothetical attack wouldn't at all.
 

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Hashirama still spanks med diff.
 

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Imagine this with Enton :
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Edit : And no he doesn't need range , he had a lot of long range attacks.

When I said that he needs range, I meant that he had to make the best use of his ranged attacks.

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Imagine this guarded by Rashomon. Modified Houbi technique is strong enough to withstand multiple tailed beast bombs.

When the attack is over, Hashirama can use another one of his trump cads; the Hotei technique.

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This attack was big and strong enough to grab Kurama and restrain, as seen in the picture. From here, Hashirama can choose to invest all of his chakra in this technique and stall for fifteen minutes, though this is highly unlikely. More likely, he can use Wood Dragon and Wood Human to attack, possible Shinsenjuu as well.

Youknow, this is how debates should be. No name calling, or accusing people of being on narcotics (glaring at you, Crossroads and Shelke).
 
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Still doesn't come close to THAT, with Bijuudamas infused... Plus, Madara's attack didn't even completely destroy Shinsenjuu; your hypothetical attack wouldn't at all.

And what you saw in the picture doesn't come close to PS enton sword , and he can spam those swings.
 

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Oh crap. Dantee is monitoring the thread.

PREPARE TO BE SCHOOLED.
 

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When I said that he needs range, I meant that he had to make the best use of his ranged attacks.

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Imagine this guarded by Rashomon. Modified Houbi technique is strong enough to withstand multiple tailed beast bombs.

When the attack is over, Hashirama can use another one of his trump cads; the Hotei technique.

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This attack was big and strong enough to grab Kurama and restrain, as seen in the picture. From here, Hashirama can choose to invest all of his chakra in this technique and stall for fifteen minutes, though this is highly unlikely. More likely, he can use Wood Dragon and Wood Human to attack, possible Shinsenjuu as well.

Youknow, this is how debates should be. No name calling, or accusing people of being on narcotics (glaring at you, Crossroads and Shelke).

You forgot that PS stand on two feet not four feet like Kurama , so if Hashirama's technique grabs PS's legs , Sasuke can cut it with PS's sword.

And if Sasuke keep his distance its favorable to him ( for reasons i posted earlier ).
 
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You forgot that PS stand on two feet not four feet like Kurama , so if Hashirama's technique grabs PS's legs , Sasuke can cut it with PS's sword.

And if Sasuke keep his distance its favorable to him ( for reason i posted earlier ).

Ah, clever.

There's no reason to believe that Hashirama can't make them go much taller, more vertically inclined than horizontally. Even if they can't, there's no reason to believe that the range isn't as long as Hashirama can see; Sasuke can either cut them off with his sword, and risk wasting time so Hashirama's wooden creations can close in, or focus on Hashirama himself and allow the Hotei to destroy him.

Hashirama can create multiple wooden arms to keep up the pressure as well, and this is all assuming he can't increase their vertical height, in which case Sasuke is restrained and many free hits are rained upon him, product of the thousands of hands of the Buddha. He won't be able to block any of the hands this time, seeing as the arms are restraining his Yata mirror.
 

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Ah, clever.

There's no reason to believe that Hashirama can't make them go much taller, more vertically inclined than horizontally. Even if they can't, there's no reason to believe that the range isn't as long as Hashirama can see; Sasuke can either cut them off with his sword, and risk wasting time so Hashirama's wooden creations can close in, or focus on Hashirama himself and allow the Hotei to destroy him.

Hashirama can create multiple wooden arms to keep up the pressure as well, and this is all assuming he can't increase their vertical height, in which case Sasuke is restrained and many free hits are rained upon him, product of the thousands of hands of the Buddha. He won't be able to block any of the hands this time, seeing as the arms are restraining his Yata mirror.

We forgot something REALLY important , the shield of Amaterasu.
But still after our debate i believe that Sasuke's chance to win is the long range fight.
Because like i said Shinsenjuu isn't agile ( by the look of it ) and Hashirama's SM isn't limitless.

EDIT : Also we forgot something else , CHIDORI NAGASHI.
 
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sasuke may take this extreme high diff....!
 
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