Hashirama is not invincible.

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If Hashirama fought Madara Uchiha right now in an actual battle not just using his susanoo to stall Hashirama he would stomp him.

Madara Uchiha was resurrected on steroids. He's got the rinnegan Kabuto enhanced his body with super stats so powerful that he was able to beat an army of ninja with tijutsu. Not to mention he has Hashirama's wood style on top of the power he had at first when he took Madara to the limit with just his EMS. Hashirama hasn't shown any differences in his strength sense that fight with Madara Uchiha.

A lot of people seem to think him and Madara are naturally above and beyond everyone in the series. I honestly believe that if Madara was brought back how he was before his fight with Hashirama with only ems and his normal chackara no wood style gokage would pumble him. Same goes with Hashirama. Some people think Hashirama stomps Nagato which is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure 6 paths of pain nagato is stronger than Hashirama and Madara back when they fought. Now might be a different story.
 

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Yet he can't even stomp Hashirama. ^_^. And this is a Hashirama not at his prime and has wood clones out.
 

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Yeah, Madara is only stronger thanks to Hashirama's powers. But what if Hashirama also had Madara's powers? The Rinnegan, Sharingan, etc.? I think a comparison at this point is stupid between these too, since Madara is Madara+Hashirama and Hashirama only himself.
 

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The Madara that fought hashirama would roflstomp the gokage into less than dust.
 

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Hashirama was considered the god of shinobi, he has great healing abilities as well as a power SM which had a ultimate jutsu which I don't think I need to show to you. A powerful KKG which people might consider the strongest of them all.

Madara is right next to Hashirama.
 

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Three words.

GOD OF SHINOBI

You don't get that title unless your something close to invincible. Hashi can run wood up Madaras ass any day of the week
 

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Yeah, Madara is only stronger thanks to Hashirama's powers. But what if Hashirama also had Madara's powers? The Rinnegan, Sharingan, etc.? I think a comparison at this point is stupid between these too, since Madara is Madara+Hashirama and Hashirama only himself.

There are no what if's the fact is Madara Uchiha is stronger than Hashirama senju. That's the point. What if Choji had wood style EMS and Rinnegan plus the 10 tails?
 

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Three words.

GOD OF SHINOBI

You don't get that title unless your something close to invincible.

Hiruzen was also called that before Kishi changed his mind. Also if he where as they claim which he isn't and he was invincible then why did he die?
 

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Hashirama was considered the god of shinobi, he has great healing abilities as well as a power SM which had a ultimate jutsu which I don't think I need to show to you. A powerful KKG which people might consider the strongest of them all.

Madara is right next to Hashirama.

Hashirama not the god of anything and just like you people say you can't give Hiruzen credit because of hype the same must be applied to Hashirama so tell me what feats has he shown that indicates he cannot die(is invincible) because last time I checked he died.
 

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Madara obviously is OP but when Kishi deploys the plot no jutsu, it's trollage to the max. :yay:

We saw this in Itachi and Sasuke's fight in which Itachi lost, Nagato and Itachi's fight in which Nagato lost and Obito and Kakashi's last fight in which Obito lost. :eww: The characters that are more powerful than their opponents lose in that particular fight. :| So therefore, it's bound to happen to Madara as well bro. hmm
 

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The Madara that fought hashirama would roflstomp the gokage into less than dust.

I that's the case why would he need the kyubi just to battle one hokage? And tell me why he almost got stomped by Naruto's rasen shurikan before awakening the rinnegan in his CURRENT state. The rinnegan that in turn saved him.
 

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Hiruzen was also called that before Kishi changed his mind. Also if he where as they claim which he isn't and he was invincible then why did he die?

He changed his mind for good reason hiruzen is poop. And everyone dies bro. Don't assume he was defeated in battle could of been a sacrifice lets wait and see. But besides rikudo hashirama has received the most hype over his power that every shinobi after him dreamed they had. Like I said if anyone is close to invincible it's hashirama.
 

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Yep , he is dead.
You can't counter a master of "talk-no-jutsu" , everybody can be defeated , obvious.
 

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lol, Madara fanboys are still wanking huh? Madara's strongest technique was being stalemated by Mokujin, Buddha would decimate Perfect Susanoo, its not even contest in that clash. Hashirama is clearly stronger than Edo Madara going by what has been shown in the manga.

6 paths of pain beating Madara or Hashirama at VoTE? Slap yourself. They both rape Pain and take Nagato mid difficulty at the very best.

Hashirama doesn't need to be invincible to defeat Madara, your title is terribly misleading.
 
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madara is stronger than hashi now but back when they was alive hashi stronger soo i hope that anwsers your question.O_O
 

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There are no what if's the fact is Madara Uchiha is stronger than Hashirama senju. That's the point. What if Choji had wood style EMS and Rinnegan plus the 10 tails?
No, you're not getting my point. What I meant is that Madara got an unfair advantage in front of Hashirama by having his power. That's why I said that a comparison is pointless, since one has his power and also the opponent's one, while the opponent only holds his own power. Give Hashirama Madara's power and then you could compare them. Either compare them with only their power or both with each others'

And no, the Choji example makes no sense.
 

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if i remember Hashirama is being overwhelmed by freaking Black rod and he could barely dodge it. Meteor > any techniques in Hashirama arsenal. Madara isn't even using his full power yet Hashirama is being overwhelmed easily.

Edo Madara > any form of Hashirama
 

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Madara will always be Hashirama's lesser.
 

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He changed his mind for good reason hiruzen is poop. And everyone dies bro. Don't assume he was defeated in battle could of been a sacrifice lets wait and see. But besides rikudo hashirama has received the most hype over his power that every shinobi after him dreamed they had. Like I said if anyone is close to invincible it's hashirama.

You say he's close to invincible when he's far from it. Like I said he died rather it was a sacrafice or a desease or got killed by a no name ninja he died just like anyone else would have. He's not a god. His power isn't unmatched. Nagato with his Rinnegan and 6 paths of pain probably defeats Hashirama. You say Hiruzen is poop? How so? It was stated that he surpassed his predecessors(1st and 2nd hokage). Just like a prime Hiruzen, Hashirama's credibility is his hype.
 
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