Sasuke vs Gokage

[Typhon Uchiha]

You really believe the Sasuke who faced the Gokage was on the same level as the current Sasuke? Lmao.

Of course EMS Sasuke with two power ups> MS Sasuke


However Sasuke still gets absolutely stomped.

Every single one of the Gokage has shat on MS techniques multiple times.

Gaara has blocked Enton before, he can counter any non legged Susanoo from underneath, but his legged Susanoo gets restrained with Sand anyways so either way GG, plus his sand can inhibit vision thus stopping arrows/Amaterasu.

Mei can use hidden mist which will prevent Enton arrows/ Amaterasu. Her Boil release has dissolved a ribcage, and can probably do the same to a higher level version, plus Lava release can be used to cement Sasukes Susanoo in place, rendering it immobile.

Ay dodged a point blank Amaterasu, so that rules that one out, he has also cracked Susanoo ribcage by himself, and with the help of Onoki's lightening jutsu, ripped apart Madaras V2 or V3 Susanoo.

Susanoo sword, meh, ain't nobody got time fo dat. She is a med ninja and is their as a support, supplementing their chakra and healing them, not like they need it.

Onoki destroyed 25 Susanoo, he may have had help, but even if he tones it down, it will one shot Sasuke. And that is a GG, you have no cells left one shot, he will not survive that.


Multi choice question
If you think any version of Sasuke that has been shown thus far in the manga can beat the Gokage, you are?

a) A fanboy/girl who choke on Lord Sasukes D......
b) On a meth bender
c) 10 years old
d) All of the above

 

[shelke]

Of course EMS Sasuke with two power ups> MS Sasuke


However Sasuke still gets absolutely stomped.

Every single one of the Gokage has shat on MS techniques multiple times.

Gaara has blocked Enton, plus he can counter any non legged Susanoo from underneath, but his legged Susanoo gets restrained with Sand anyways, plus his sand can inhibit vision thus stopping arrows/Amaterasu.

Mei can use hidden mist which will prevent Enton arrows/ Amaterasu. Her Boil release has dissolved a ribcage, and can probably do the same to a higher level version, plus Lava release can be used to cement Sasukes Susanoo in place, rendering it immobile.

Ay dodged a point blank Amaterasu, so that rules that one out, he has also cracked Susanoo ribcage by himself, and with the help of Onoki's lightening jutsu, ripped apart Madaras V2 or V3 Susanoo.

Susanoo sword, meh, ain't nobody got time fo dat. She is a med ninja and is their as a support, supplementing their chakra and healing them, not like they need it.

Onoki destroyed 25 Susanoo, he may have had help, but even if he tones it down, it will one shot Sasuke. And that is a GG, you have no cells left one shot, he will not survive that.

The amount of nonsense:

- What multiple times? Ae couldn't get past the lowest form, which is rib-cage Susano'o. He only managed to get his fingers in and that too after Ligar Bomb as a chip of Susano'o cracked, which means it was weakened. All of them attacked Sasuke WITH their Jounins. Gaara in fact did so with three other Jounins. It was never a one-on-one battle.

- Because he obviously used this strategy against Madara and even managed to pull him out all on his own.

- Mei's mist was used to hinder Rinnegan's vision not Sharingan's. Before anyone brings Kakashi into the mix, here is my take:

In fact, I don't even think Mist would completely cloud his eyes like it did Kakashi's. Sasuke is capable of seeing Chakra behind solid objects; an ability Kakashi has NEVER displayed. What is more difficult to see through: Mist or a solid Spike or Ground? Do the math, as it's not hard to do so.

And here are the possible counters:

If Mei starts with Mist, Sasuke can simply summon a hawk to blow it away. Her acid Mist is not accomplishing anything for Final Susano'o or the current V3 with legs form. Or Sasuke can simply use Magatama. Even the random projectiles would burn Mei and Tsunade as they are not quick enough to evade such attacks. Or Sasuke can pull out the long Enton sword and simply swipes it across the battle-field. There are far too many counters for this.

- Sasuke's rib-cage Susano'o didn't melt even at the edges when it ook on a point-blank Lava attack. That is obviously getting through a higher form.

- An Enton coated Susano'o rules out any close-ranged combat. He's fried the second he touches it or loses his second hand or arm, rendering him useless in battle completely. He also pumped Biuu-Level Chakra into his V2 Cloak. He isn't maintaining it for long.

- Countered because of prep time and Shringan's ability to see Chakra.

Nice insults, Hannah Montana. You wrecked us.

 

[Typhon Uchiha]

The amount of nonsense:

- What multiple times? Ae couldn't get past the lowest form, which is rib-cage Susano'o. He only managed to get his fingers in and that too after Ligar Bomb as a chip of Susano'o cracked, which means it was weakened. All of them attacked Sasuke WITH their Jounins. Gaara in fact did so with three other Jounins. It was never a one-on-one battle.

- Because he obviously used this strategy against Madara and even managed to pull him out all on his own.

- Mei's mist was used to hinder Rinnegan's vision not Sharingan's. Before anyone brings Kakashi into the mix, here is my take:



And here are the possible counters:



- Sasuke's rib-cage Susano'o didn't melt even at the edges when it ook on a point-blank Lava attack. That is obviously getting through a higher form.

- An Enton coated Susano'o rules out any close-ranged combat. He's fried the second he touches it or loses his second hand or arm, rendering him useless in battle completely. He also pumped Biuu-Level Chakra into his V2 Cloak. He isn't maintaining it for long.

- Countered because of prep time and Shringan's ability to see Chakra.

Nice insults, Hannah Montana. You wrecked us.

-He smashed open ribcage Susanoo when it was covered in Enton flames, second time is when he was lightened by Onoki and put a hole directly through Madaras v2/v3 Susanoo.

Susanoo weakened?
It's made of chakra. It reforms, its happened multiple times e.g after Danzos Fuuton bullets cracked it or when Tsunade cracked Madaras, and it comes back intact.
Weakened...Absolute nonsense.


-Are you trying to deny that Gaara can pull Sasuke out from below? He may not have done it by himself last time, but he is not alone in this match....


-Looking through a rock and looking through hidden mist is completely different, do you know why? Because Hidden Mist is made of chakra, you cant see chakra through chakra this is not a byakugan.

Cbf finding the scan but heres the wiki:
"It can't fool the Byakugan, but, due to the mist being created with the user's chakra, any Sharingan and Rinnegan-user will see the mist coloured by their opponent's chakra, which will effectively hide the user from the dōjutsu.

Sand also blocks Sasuke's sight further limiting his ability to hit Enton/Amaterasu..


-He may avoid her Boil release, however do not forget that Gaara can use sand to make all of them fly plus Onoki can fly by himself, this serves no real purpose. Proof Boil release won't work on other forms of Susanoo?

Sand counters any projectiles thrown by Sasuke, like it did against Madara, remember Onoki can lighten it which increases its speed immensely.

I never said Lava gets through, I said it immobilises it, that means it stops it from moving.
It worked against Madaras Susanoo, so don't say it won't work here.
Sand + Lava = Not moving/immobilised Susanoo
Immobilised Susanoo + Jinton = GG Sasuke

Even if he is still alive (not happening) if his Susanoo drops he takes a v2 lariat to the face...
Bees wrecked him, Ays will wreck him.

Ay has never showed chakra issues so don't make crap up, plus his daddy was a chakra monster why would he not be?

 

[BlackFlame44]

ohnoki Atomizes

gaara squahes

A blitzes

Tsunade smashes

Mei melts

Take your pick

 

[Typhon Uchiha]

ohnoki Atomizes

gaara squahes

A blitzes

Tsunade smashes

Mei melts

Take your pick

Haha I agree very much...

Everyone of them have beaten Susanoo at some point, that isn't protecting him from the Gokage.

 

[shelke]

@Typhon Uchiha

- Which was weakened by Ligar Bomb. Yes, because Madara obviously was going at them with the intent to kill. The guy let them hit him to reveal the face, played with them through out the fight. Not to mention the scenario you mentioned happened after blinding the Rinnegan.

- A crack was shown after Sasuke's back hit the ground. Why don't you re-read the fight? It will save me a whole lot of UN-necessary typing.

- That doesn't even make a shred of sense. Mist is condensed vapour. This obviously falls under Mei's Suiton prowess. So now you would suggest that water in the lake and Mei's water are different? Fact remains: Solid Object would provide hundred percent hindrance for eyes compared to Mist which actually has a visibility range even in real life. Kakashi was the only Sharingan user that was hood-winked. Madara's Rinngean was fooled not Sharingan. Unless you have a scan.

- Find me a scan, but even then, I actually did post counters for it, just in case.

- Sand is not reacting faster than arrows, Enton Sword, or Amaterasu.

- Rib cage is the lowest form and it didn't even slightly damage it, and higher forms get wasted? Sans common-sense. If Gaara can fly, then so can Sasuke. Irrelevant point. What are Tsunade, Mei, and Ae going to do far up in air anyway?

- Yasaka Magatama? Gaara's sand and Onoki's golem barely managed to block his attacks. And if Mei uses Mist, the rest of them can see the upcoming attacks?

- Never happened to Sasuke's lowest susano'o form. Hence, it isn't happening on any level.

- Irrelevant. It never worked on Sasuke. Keep that discussion to Madara's thread. And FYI, it was a long combined attack with other factors involved. Madara so far has no Enton or Amaterasu. What worked against Madara there is not happening to Sasuke. He simply lashes out with a long Enton Sword, burning everyone who stays there with a simple swipe. Or Magatama, or takes to the air and does the former. Madara has no such counters. So you can kindly stop with that Madara logic.

- What? Forgive me I took you seriously. That is such a rubbish argument.

- Ae has Chakra reserves comparable to several Bijuus? LOL @ this guy. This is gold!

 

[Typhon Uchiha]

@Typhon Uchiha

- Which was weakened by Ligar Bomb. Yes, because Madara obviously was going at them with the intent to kill. The guy let them hit him to reveal the face, played with them through out the fight. Not to mention the scenario you mentioned happened after blinding the Rinnegan.

- A crack was shown after Sasuke's back hit the ground. Why don't you re-read the fight? It will save me a whole lot of UN-necessary typing.

- That doesn't even make a shred of sense. Mist is condensed vapour. This obviously falls under Mei's Suiton prowess. So now you would suggest that water in the lake and Mei's water are different? Fact remains: Solid Object would provide hundred percent hindrance for eyes compared to Mist which actually has a visibility range even in real life. Kakashi was the only Sharingan user that was hood-winked. Madara's Rinngean was fooled not Sharingan. Unless you have a scan.

- Find me a scan, but even then, I actually did post counters for it, just in case.

- Sand is not reacting faster than arrows, Enton Sword, or Amaterasu.

- Rib cage is the lowest form and it didn't even slightly damage it, and higher forms get wasted? Sans common-sense. If Gaara can fly, then so can Sasuke. Irrelevant point. What are Tsunade, Mei, and Ae going to do far up in air anyway?

- Yasaka Magatama? Gaara's sand and Onoki's golem barely managed to block his attacks. And if Mei uses Mist, the rest of them can see the upcoming attacks?

- Never happened to Sasuke's lowest susano'o form. Hence, it isn't happening on any level.

- Irrelevant. It never worked on Sasuke. Keep that discussion to Madara's thread. And FYI, it was a long combined attack with other factors involved. Madara so far has no Enton or Amaterasu. What worked against Madara there is not happening to Sasuke. He simply lashes out with a long Enton Sword, burning everyone who stays there with a simple swipe. Or Magatama, or takes to the air and does the former. Madara has no such counters. So you can kindly stop with that Madara logic.

- What? Forgive me I took you seriously. That is such a rubbish argument.

- Ae has Chakra reserves comparable to several Bijuus? LOL @ this guy. This is gold!

Wow you actually believe Sasuke takes this....

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and yes it does crack it, however if you had read my post and read the manga, you would know that when Susanoo gets damaged it reforms, because it is made of chakra.....

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, just before it gets broken? No, because it isn't so don't continue this nonsense.

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he breaks it. Fact.

What difference does it make that Madara was toying with them, that makes absolutely no difference to the fact that a lightened Ay broke a v2/3 Susanoo, don't say Sasukes is stronger because that is BS.

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, he puts a whole right through the Susanoo. Fact.


-Yes it does make sense that he can't see through the Hidden Mist, it is a jutsu, the mist is chakra, sharingan cannot see through chakraTHAT IS THE BYAKUGAN!
The quote I posted was pulled from the wiki, which says that Sharingan and Rinnegan cannot see through the Hidden Mist technique.
Multiple quotes saying that he can't see Zabuza. (

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Fact.
So once again quit sprouting BS.


-Find you a scan for Sand going under Susanoo? If that's what you're asking for are you serious?


-Umm when the sand is already there it doesn't need to react faster than Enton/Amaterasu. How is Sasuke going to hit
either of these, if his opponents are completely out of sight?

Heres the golem/sand combo

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So no Sasukes Enton projectiles will not penetrate Sand. Fact.


-Hahaha the rest of your post isn't even worth posting links.... You say because it happened against Madara and not Sasuke it doesn't count, GTFO, a Susanoo is a Susanoo.


-So what if it was a long combined attack they will do the same shit....Sand and Lava will stop Sasuke's Susanoo from moving, once it is immobile, Jinton wrecks him, getting the jutsu ready takes about 5 seconds, it will take Sasuke longer than 5 seconds to fight his way out of that.



-Rubbish argument? Sasuke is to slow to avoid Ay in V2 state and without Susanoo he dies,

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Ay and Bee had to match the chakra in their Lariats to make it work, that means they are equal.
Bee absolutely destroyed Sasuke with a Lariat
Ay's Lariat is just as strong.... It will murk Sasuke.



Where the phuck did I say he had Bijuu level chakra?
Your talking about him running out of chakra, when he has never once shown chakra issues.
Once again more BS.


Sasuke gets absolutely wrecked, so please stop.

Your entire argument, well lack thereof, just proves what I said in my first post...

You are obviously d) All of the above.

 

[shelke]

@Typhoon Uchiha

- Without the user investing Chakra in it? I would like to see a scan of Susano'o acting independently of the user in any form. His Susano'o was weakened, which is why Raikage's fingers went through, otherwise, it's borderline ludicrous to even suggest that Ligar bomb is a weaker attack than his finger stab. It doesn't even make any sense. Here is the crack image again -

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- It makes every bit of difference, but since you are still sticking to your own petty logic, let's see -

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- This is all they could accomplish. A crack in V3 Susano'o when Sasuke can not only coat his with Enton but do so with a V4 one. Which means even that crack isn't happening. FYI, it's not a hole, but a crack.

- Sigh -

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- Kakashi copies Water Clone in Mist. If the mist is too thick, Mei and others cannot see either -

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. In fact, Zabuza was fighting with his eyes-closed, as he's skilled in silent Killing -

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. Now will you tell me the Gokage have such skills, then I would flat out laugh at your idiotic logic.

A few other factors:

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- Kabuto comments on Rinnegan's field of vision.

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- Kabuto still anticipated the attack and Onoki and Ae could see where they were going. Even Madara saw what happened -

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. Now an important counter - If Mei makes the mist too thick - if I am to agree with your point, as it has a bit of merit - her whole team goes blind and cannot see anything. It's a colossal disadvantage for them. Can this not get past that Neanderthal scull of yours?

Madara has no Enton counter, Sasuke does. Enton Sword, Magatama, Enton arrows are all suitable, and if Sasuke cannot see, the other group has no idea about the counters either. Hence, you can stop with this mist 'solos' crap, it's funny. Sasuke can even spread Amaterasu around the whole damn group, himself, or sweep his gaze around and whoever is standing without any protection is fried. The whole damn area will be on fire, such like the forest was in his fight with Itachi.

All this would heat the atmosphere, creating a hot-spot storm and Kirin is prepared. Then all of them are unceremoniously creamed the next second. Lol That would be another counter, as Kirin would be prepared in less than half the time unlike the last time given Sasuke's Enton Spam.

- What about the sand and Golem combo? You are telling me what I corrected you on? Seems Legit. Arrows are not only faster, but have more penetrative properties. Enton arrows would burn through the Golem and Gaara's sand would never be able to form a proper hindrance for something that doesn't even give time to form a single hand-seal. Irrelevant argument. Do you even read the manga?

- Dumb as rocks, some of you. It isn't applicable because you got a few things wrong the last time. Mei never managed to snare Susano'o with her Lava attack, but Madara formed Susano'o, because he fell inside her Lava-Release -

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. All you are doing is make a ton of shit up and pass it of as facts. Didn't I tell you that happened because of a couple of factors? Yet you still brazenly ignored it.

Madara simply lay there and didn't even endeavour to move his Susano'o -

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. Despite her piling up the technique on him. When he decided to get up, he simply shrugged off all the technique -

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. This is backed by these images - Mei's Boil Release didn't hold such a small version in its place -

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. But you somehow believe that it would do so for a level 4 Susano'o coated with Enton? Lol

- And why would Sasuke stand still and let this be done? He has a lot of options to counter, as I mentioned earlier. Enton Sword which has an immense length, Magatamas, Enton Arrows. The way you keep ignoring these is getting pretty damn idiotic.

- It's a Rubbish argument as Ae is not touching or breaching V4 Enton Coated Susano'o, or a wall of Defensive Amaterasu. Put Bee out of this argument, as this fight has nothing to do with Him. I could counter these arguments as well, as there is no way you believe the shit you keep typing, completely ignoring other manga factors that lead to so and so happening.

- V2 requires such a large amount of Chakra that Ae had to up his chakra or invest Bijuu level chakra to transform V1 into V2. Karin confirms it. Just because your low-grade chicken eyes missed it, doesn't mean the rest of us are blind to Logic. If you think he maintains it for long without dying then it's another stupid argument from the likes of you. Not that it matters given his close-combatant status.

Another Kindergarten level rejoinder. Lol Keep em coming, loafer.

 

[shelke]

Correction: Mei's Lava Release not Boil Release for Sasuke's Rib-Cage Susano'o. Damn...I cannot even edit my posts here. -_-

 

[saw2097]

Sasuke most likely loses all three, maybe he could win high dif the last two but I doubt it.

They can just supercharge the old fart Tsuchikage and have him use his dust release.

 

[Bieber]

Sasuke most likely loses all three, maybe he could win high dif the last two but I doubt it.

They can just supercharge the old fart Tsuchikage and have him use his dust release.

Yeah, because Sasuke is going to sit there and watch Ōnoki while he is charging it up.

 

[saw2097]

Yeah, because Sasuke is going to sit there and watch Ōnoki while he is charging it up.

There are three other Kage to hold him off, and besides Onoki can get him from a distance, he just needs to create a large enough one to cover a good sizeable distance.

 

[Bieber]

There are three other Kage to hold him off, and besides Onoki can get him from a distance, he just needs to create a large enough one to cover a good sizeable distance.

How exactly are the other three going to hold Sasuke off? The only one capable of doing it is Gaara. Mei's futton and yoton are a joke compared to his final Susanoo. Nor is she going to use her futton around her teammates. Ay can't get close if Sasuke covers his Susanoo in amaterasu, same for Tsunade. Ōnoki can either take flight or go from a distance either way he is going to get hit by amaterasu.

Gaara's sand won't do shit. Susanoo arrow easily breaks through it and it doesn't have the speed to stop amaterasu. Which does spawn on the target and don't even bring up the scan of Gaara's sand stopping enton.

@Shelke: I would rep you, but I still need to spread.

 

[Prince Charles]

I put my money on sasuke, Enton spam and amaterasu spam ends this rather easily.

 

[Zexion~]

Eh, i can see Sasuke winning this..... I Mean, he can sustain v3 susano'o for rather long,

Mei goes down easily, and Enton Arrow can take out Onoki ....

Idk

 

[Typhon Uchiha]

@Typhoon Uchiha

- Without the user investing Chakra in it? I would like to see a scan of Susano'o acting independently of the user in any form. His Susano'o was weakened, which is why Raikage's fingers went through, otherwise, it's borderline ludicrous to even suggest that Ligar bomb is a weaker attack than his finger stab. It doesn't even make any sense. Here is the crack image again -

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- It makes every bit of difference, but since you are still sticking to your own petty logic, let's see -

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- This is all they could accomplish. A crack in V3 Susano'o when Sasuke can not only coat his with Enton but do so with a V4 one. Which means even that crack isn't happening. FYI, it's not a hole, but a crack.

- Sigh -

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- Kakashi copies Water Clone in Mist. If the mist is too thick, Mei and others cannot see either -

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. In fact, Zabuza was fighting with his eyes-closed, as he's skilled in silent Killing -

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. Now will you tell me the Gokage have such skills, then I would flat out laugh at your idiotic logic.

A few other factors:

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- Kabuto comments on Rinnegan's field of vision.

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- Kabuto still anticipated the attack and Onoki and Ae could see where they were going. Even Madara saw what happened -

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. Now an important counter - If Mei makes the mist too thick - if I am to agree with your point, as it has a bit of merit - her whole team goes blind and cannot see anything. It's a colossal disadvantage for them. Can this not get past that Neanderthal scull of yours?

Madara has no Enton counter, Sasuke does. Enton Sword, Magatama, Enton arrows are all suitable, and if Sasuke cannot see, the other group has no idea about the counters either. Hence, you can stop with this mist 'solos' crap, it's funny. Sasuke can even spread Amaterasu around the whole damn group, himself, or sweep his gaze around and whoever is standing without any protection is fried. The whole damn area will be on fire, such like the forest was in his fight with Itachi.

All this would heat the atmosphere, creating a hot-spot storm and Kirin is prepared. Then all of them are unceremoniously creamed the next second. Lol That would be another counter, as Kirin would be prepared in less than half the time unlike the last time given Sasuke's Enton Spam.

- What about the sand and Golem combo? You are telling me what I corrected you on? Seems Legit. Arrows are not only faster, but have more penetrative properties. Enton arrows would burn through the Golem and Gaara's sand would never be able to form a proper hindrance for something that doesn't even give time to form a single hand-seal. Irrelevant argument. Do you even read the manga?

- Dumb as rocks, some of you. It isn't applicable because you got a few things wrong the last time. Mei never managed to snare Susano'o with her Lava attack, but Madara formed Susano'o, because he fell inside her Lava-Release -

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. All you are doing is make a ton of shit up and pass it of as facts. Didn't I tell you that happened because of a couple of factors? Yet you still brazenly ignored it.

Madara simply lay there and didn't even endeavour to move his Susano'o -

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. Despite her piling up the technique on him. When he decided to get up, he simply shrugged off all the technique -

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. This is backed by these images - Mei's Boil Release didn't hold such a small version in its place -

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. But you somehow believe that it would do so for a level 4 Susano'o coated with Enton? Lol

- And why would Sasuke stand still and let this be done? He has a lot of options to counter, as I mentioned earlier. Enton Sword which has an immense length, Magatamas, Enton Arrows. The way you keep ignoring these is getting pretty damn idiotic.

- It's a Rubbish argument as Ae is not touching or breaching V4 Enton Coated Susano'o, or a wall of Defensive Amaterasu. Put Bee out of this argument, as this fight has nothing to do with Him. I could counter these arguments as well, as there is no way you believe the shit you keep typing, completely ignoring other manga factors that lead to so and so happening.

- V2 requires such a large amount of Chakra that Ae had to up his chakra or invest Bijuu level chakra to transform V1 into V2. Karin confirms it. Just because your low-grade chicken eyes missed it, doesn't mean the rest of us are blind to Logic. If you think he maintains it for long without dying then it's another stupid argument from the likes of you. Not that it matters given his close-combatant status.

Another Kindergarten level rejoinder. Lol Keep em coming, loafer.

-WTH I just showed you a scan of Susanoo,

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, this is after the Laiger bomb. There is absolutely no damage to the Susanoo, yet on the next page it was completely broken.

-All they could accomplish? They put a hole right through the Susanoo, it was only by chance that that did not stab Madara aswell. If that is hit in the right spot it will break through Susanoo and kill Sasuke.
How well did his Enton Susanoo work out last time? He still got tagged by Raikage and he will this time.

But what if he goes v4 to tank it?...Then he gets ripped out of Susanoo like Madara did, because it has an inherent weakness from underneath, which the Gokage know about.
Sasuke has to use his legged Susanoo this whole match, otherwise he gets pulled out and V2 ration blitzed. GG.


- That was the initial hidden mist and if you had read chapter 26, you would realise that it wasn't, as dense because he wanted Haku to study Kakashi's fighting style. When he used it on the bridge nobody could see anything.
That is correct.
For Sasuke this inhibits all of his jutsu as they require line of sight to hit, whereas the Gokage have wide range attacks for example Gaara could trap everything within the Mist with a Sand Tsunami, chuck in wide size Jinton, that would destroy anything and everything including Sasuke that is in the Mist. Does your Neandertall scull comprehend that? What is Sasukes counter for that?

That kabuto Mu page doesn't really help your mist debate, Kabuto thought they were going to attack for one of two reasons: 1) because they are obviously going to attack, duh. 2) Kabuto was controlling Muu, who is arguably the best sensor in the manga.

-Kirin seriously? How is he going to kill all five of them with one jutsu... That post is just idiotic.

- One Enton arrow does not have more penetrative power then 12 magatamas, which is what Sasuke threw.
And I come to this post again how is he going to deal with the constant sand barrage, which slows him down and also limits his vision? He's not going to be able to fire off his Enton arrows at the Gokage with the sand attacking him.

-What the hell brazenly ignore it?
A couple of factors... Yeah a combo attack, something which they would do in this fight.
Did I ever just say Lava could defeat Sasuke? No.
I said that Lava and Sand together would be used to immobilise Susanoo for the <5 seconds that it would take Jinton to be ready. How is he going to survive that? He doesn't.

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.... That isn't Boil release, that is just a Suiton, which is used to rapidly cool down the lava, so it becomes solid.
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If you look at second scan I just provided you can see that even his V2 has melt marks on it, also you may notice on the last panel that his ribcage is still up, however the acid mist is still eating away at him.
That means Susanoo is not protecting him from the mist, so if a confined space is created by Gaara and his sand, acid mist can still be used to kill Sasuke.

-The way I ignore them is idiotic? How is a piddly little sword going to counter at least half of this sand?

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Susanoo would get buried by a quarter of that, which is something Gaara can do, plus Mei is using techniques to slow it down.
NO this immense length sword you talk about ain't doing shit, and neither is a Enton arrow which would have to be aimed at itself, as the sand would be you know on the Susanoo.
And like I said this is only for the <5 seconds it takes for Jinton to be ready to kill him, and you say I'm ignoring your post... Those counters you proposed aren't doing enough to stop from being hit by Jinton, period.

-Hahah a wall of defensive Amaterasu means nothing when there is no roof lol. Go over it, Gaara can swing it so everybody gets over it, plus Onoki can fly over it.
Ay does not need to breach V4 Susanoo because if Sasuke uses anything without legs he gets pulled out, its that simple.
Susanoo below v4 can be broken by any one of the Kage, as all of them have done it.

-Why do you insist on saying Raikage has no chakra reserves. Show me one scan of the Raikage running out of chakra, his
father had enough chakra to battle 10000 people for 3 days, why would his be that much smaller? Yet you think he will pass out after he uses it for a minute. Laughable.
Your entire basis for this, is Karin saying his chakra are at Bijuu levels?
C'mon find some actual proof.

Also you realise Tsunade is their buffing them with healing and chakra, the one who's chakras you should worry about is Sasukes.
Don't say he can spam it all day, he is not outlasting 5 kage level opponents at once.


Haha all you do is throw insults around everybody can do that "loafer"

 

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@Uchiha Typhon

I will keep this mighty short as your posts are getting irritating:

- This guy thinks Suihei is stronger than Ligar bomb. LOL

- V4 gets drilled in that is coated with Enton? And Raikage goes away unscathed. Ingrates.

- By Lightening the sand in the adjutant area, which Sasuke would never see coming given Sharingan's chakra seeing properties. Or can never break the sand or counter it with Nagashi or use flat out use Enton Sword to break the sand grains trails breaching inside his Susano'o. Madara obviously tried all of this but sadly failed.

- Magatamas have penetrative properties, when they rotate like Shurikans and create damage on impact, but an Enton arrow would never go through given the fact that Kakashi had to use Kamui and Danzo wasted a good Sharingan to save themselves. This Guy.

- Kirin obliterated an entire mountain top and comes down at the rate of 1/1000 of a second, and yet all of them survive or evade it.

- Ignores this -

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- Karin's statement on Sasuke's weak Chakra reserves and why it happened so.

- Little Enton Sword

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and grassy plains in the OP but posts a scan of a desert environment. Not that it would help against this and an airborne enemy. No sir. The little Enton sword in Sasuke's hand did this, and I am not even counting the small one -

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or the one Sasuke made out of his Susano'o in his battle with Itachi against Kabuto -

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. None of these can counter the sand breaching inside Susano'o or the one outside it. Madara tried but failed.

- No proof of the defensive Amaterasu -

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- The heat was so immense that the whole cave reverted back to its original state. But Lava sticks.

- Mist completely prevents Sasuke from using any Doujutsu - LOL @ this.

- Kages break through V4 Susano'o because they have done so after elaborate attacks for lower forms. Gem of a post.

- Posts no counters for the Bull-Shit Mist logic. Zabuza couldn't tell ass from face but Mei and co will have plenty of manuvers.

- Karin's comment -

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- With V2 taking tailed beast chakra; he sure is maintain it for hours. Nine-tails has nothing on this guy.

- Compares Ae to his father when the guy doesn't even have a V2 Cloak.

- Sasuke has yet to show even slight signs of fatigue.

Oh dear. May I borrow your post and wipe my ass with them?

 

[Prince Charles]

Oh dear. May I borrow your post and wipe my ass with them?

Naw bro.. you wrong for that..

lmao.

 

[Typhon Uchiha]

@Uchiha Typhon

I will keep this mighty short as your posts are getting irritating:

- This guy thinks Suihei is stronger than Ligar bomb. LOL

- V4 gets drilled in that is coated with Enton? And Raikage goes away unscathed. Ingrates.

- By Lightening the sand in the adjutant area, which Sasuke would never see coming given Sharingan's chakra seeing properties. Or can never break the sand or counter it with Nagashi or use flat out use Enton Sword to break the sand grains trails breaching inside his Susano'o. Madara obviously tried all of this but sadly failed.

- Magatamas have penetrative properties, when they rotate like Shurikans and create damage on impact, but an Enton arrow would never go through given the fact that Kakashi had to use Kamui and Danzo wasted a good Sharingan to save themselves. This Guy.

- Kirin obliterated an entire mountain top and comes down at the rate of 1/1000 of a second, and yet all of them survive or evade it.

- Ignores this -

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and

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- Karin's statement on Sasuke's weak Chakra reserves and why it happened so.

- Little Enton Sword

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and grassy plains in the OP but posts a scan of a desert environment. Not that it would help against this and an airborne enemy. No sir. The little Enton sword in Sasuke's hand did this, and I am not even counting the small one -

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or the one Sasuke made out of his Susano'o in his battle with Itachi against Kabuto -

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. None of these can counter the sand breaching inside Susano'o or the one outside it. Madara tried but failed.

- No proof of the defensive Amaterasu -

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- The heat was so immense that the whole cave reverted back to its original state. But Lava sticks.

- Mist completely prevents Sasuke from using any Doujutsu - LOL @ this.

- Kages break through V4 Susano'o because they have done so after elaborate attacks for lower forms. Gem of a post.

- Posts no counters for the Bull-Shit Mist logic. Zabuza couldn't tell ass from face but Mei and co will have plenty of manuvers.

- Karin's comment -

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- With V2 taking tailed beast chakra; he sure is maintain it for hours. Nine-tails has nothing on this guy.

- Compares Ae to his father when the guy doesn't even have a V2 Cloak.

- Sasuke has yet to show even slight signs of fatigue.

Oh dear. May I borrow your post and wipe my ass with them?

-Umm I'm sorry Suihei broke through Susanoo and Liger Bomb merely cracked it... So yeah I think it is stronger.

-Did you fail to read the posts where I said if he is in V4, then sand will pull him out... Did it to Madara its going to work on Sasuke.

-What the hell has a sharingan got to do with lightening his sand? If he sees it coming then what? How in the hell does this help him?
This is not like cutting the god tree, which is one big solid object, this is a billion small objects controlled by chakra... If Sasuke slices through this, it doesnt just randomly stop it from being controlled, he can still control the other billion piarticles of sand to reform it back on the Susanoo.

Oh I love how you just ignored how I stated this was only to by 5 seconds of time to prep Jinton, which frikkin one shots Sasuke and any one of his Susanoos.

-I'm sorry you think that Sand can't block an Enton arrow, when

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, only one, managed to block/divert it so that it missed at 20 metres.
Sand has been considered in the top 3 ultimate defence since part one, yet you think it cant stop an arrow. Ignorance.

-Sasuke was also on the mountain and it didn't even touch him.... He was like 25 metres away from Itachi.
So you think the Gokage are going to stand next to each other and wait for Kirin to hit them? That is just plain retarded.

-He used ribcage, Amaterasu, enton and chidori for like 5-10 minutes and he was at his absolute limit. That shows nothing, he didn't even vs them all at once and he was absolutely exhausted. This proved nothing for your point, except that Sasuke does not very much chakra.

-Did you read my statement about the sand, I said he needed not even a half of that to absolutely bury Susanoo. Go read it again. With even a quarter of that at his disposal it towers over Susanoo, and would put him in Sand Tsunami which would make him completely vulnerable for a Jinton.
Did you not know that Gaara could make vast amounts sand in a grassy location and this was way back in part one, heres some links,

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Sasuke countering sand with a sword, once again this is not a solid material, it is more like a fluid which can be condensed together and separated at will to whatever the situation requires.
Cutting it in half does not stop it from coming towards him, it can very easily be reconnected.
He's also blocked sword attacks from 5 Susanoo and survived that.
So please just stfu with the sword.

-Seriously do I need to say this again. Sasuke cannot hit what he cannot see.
This is a match up with full knowledge, which means they would understand this weakness, so they would use sand and/or mist to obscure his vision.
They are not retarded, they wouldn't just stand their and let Sasuke hit them with an Amaterasu.
Plus how is he going to hit a lightened Ay/Onoki combo with Amaterasu, he can't. Ay dodged an Amaterasu at point blank range without his speed buff from Onoki.
If he cant kill Onoki then he will get Jinton'd, thus GG.

-I'm sorry are you mad that a D rank suiton jutsu>Sharingan?
It doesn't stop him from using dojutsu, it stops him from using dojutsu techniques that would actually harm someone.
If he's in the hidden mist...Super Jinton GG
Heck Gaara can use his sand underneath Sasuke, which in turn allows him to sense Sasuke, therefore Gaara can attack him, whilst he is impaired.

-Umm re read the post again you tard, I said they can crack anything below V4, and V4 is vulnerable because it is less maneuverable and it is weak from below, which I have said multiple times.

-Seriously your bringing 9 tails into this? WTF has this got to do with it?
Please just STFU about Raikages chakra, this is an absolutely terrible point to argue.

-Sasuke has yet to show signs of fatigue because he's done next to nothing.

Your using sarcasm as a means to debate, you do know that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit right?

Yet you think your funny or knowledgeable, but really your entire post is not even worthy of touching my ass.

So please kind sir, shove your post back up your ass.
Good day.

 

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-Umm I'm sorry Suihei broke through Susanoo and Liger Bomb merely cracked it... So yeah I think it is stronger.

Cracking/breaking a piece of the ribcage shouldn't even be bothered with. For obvious reasons he won't even bring out ribcage.

-Did you fail to read the posts where I said if he is in V4, then sand will pull him out... Did it to Madara its going to work on Sasuke.

Yeah because Sasuke with full knowledge will use V4 knowing that the sand can come underneath it. You must think Sasuke is retarded.

-What the hell has a sharingan got to do with lightening his sand? If he sees it coming then what? How in the hell does this help him?
This is not like cutting the god tree, which is one big solid object, this is a billion small objects controlled by chakra... If Sasuke slices through this, it doesnt just randomly stop it from being controlled, he can still control the other billion piarticles of sand to reform it back on the Susanoo.

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Does Gaara have enough sand in his gourd to cover Susanoo? No.

Oh I love how you just ignored how I stated this was only to by 5 seconds of time to prep Jinton, which frikkin one shots Sasuke and any one of his Susanoos.

Yes, jinton one shots Sasuke while he is standing still allowing Onoki to charge it up.

-I'm sorry you think that Sand can't block an Enton arrow, when

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, only one, managed to block/divert it so that it missed at 20 metres.
Sand has been considered in the top 3 ultimate defence since part one, yet you think it cant stop an arrow. Ignorance.

You can't be serious.

-Sasuke was also on the mountain and it didn't even touch him.... He was like 25 metres away from Itachi.
So you think the Gokage are going to stand next to each other and wait for Kirin to hit them? That is just plain retarded.

Yeah because the Gokage move faster than lightning strikes.

-He used ribcage, Amaterasu, enton and chidori for like 5-10 minutes and he was at his absolute limit. That shows nothing, he didn't even vs them all at once and he was absolutely exhausted. This proved nothing for your point, except that Sasuke does not very much chakra.

You're still using Sasuke's chakra reserves as an excuse? Here let me say it once more.

Sasuke's chakra reserves are no longer 'precious' btw.

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Hell, even before that they weren't even precious. He took on the Gokage with the MS which has immense drawbacks for the user, took on Danzo, and then fought Kakashi. Yes, I know that Zetsu did heal him while fighting Mei but, it wasn't much. After that Ōnoki joined the fight then Tobi stepped in to save Sasuke who was shown to be passed out. During his fight with Danzo he constantly was using Susanoo, summoning jutsu and he even managed to get V3 in that fight. Then after his fight with Danzo, Kakashi showed up and continued to use Susanoo to the point were he achieved V4. Still Sasuke didn't even run out of chakra, he just couldn't keep up V4 due to his vision. Chakra reserves aren't a problem for Sasuke so, now you can stop bringing up that argument.

-Did you read my statement about the sand, I said he needed not even a half of that to absolutely bury Susanoo. Go read it again. With even a quarter of that at his disposal it towers over Susanoo, and would put him in Sand Tsunami which would make him completely vulnerable for a Jinton.
Did you not know that Gaara could make vast amounts sand in a grassy location and this was way back in part one, heres some links,

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Yeah because Gaara doesn't need any prep time at all to create that much sand. (

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) I don't even need to state how Sasuke will counter that, but I guess I will; amaterasu.

-Seriously do I need to say this again. Sasuke cannot hit what he cannot see.
This is a match up with full knowledge, which means they would understand this weakness, so they would use sand and/or mist to obscure his vision.

How do the Gokage see through the mist? Is Mei an expert on silent killing? They can't if it's too thick and no so, she won't make it to the point were the Gokage can't even see.

They are not retarded, they wouldn't just stand their and let Sasuke hit them with an Amaterasu.

Yes, because Gaara, Tsunade, Onoki, and Mei have the speed to avoid amaterasu.

Plus how is he going to hit a lightened Ay/Onoki combo with Amaterasu, he can't. Ay dodged an Amaterasu at point blank range without his speed buff from Onoki.
If he cant kill Onoki then he will get Jinton'd, thus GG.

Ay won't be hitting a Susanoo covered in enton unless he plans on dying. Can Onoki use jinton while moving? No. Does Onoki have to stand still to charge up jinton? Yes. Amaterasu.

-I'm sorry are you mad that a D rank suiton jutsu>Sharingan?
It doesn't stop him from using dojutsu, it stops him from using dojutsu techniques that would actually harm someone.
If he's in the hidden mist...Super Jinton GG
Heck Gaara can use his sand underneath Sasuke, which in turn allows him to sense Sasuke, therefore Gaara can attack him, whilst he is impaired.

Sasuke knows that Mei can use hidden mist and he also knows that it renders his vision to an extent. With full knowledge, Mei will be his first target.

-Umm re read the post again you tard, I said they can crack anything below V4, and V4 is vulnerable because it is less maneuverable and it is weak from below, which I have said multiple times.

Enton covered Susanoo.

-Sasuke has yet to show signs of fatigue because he's done next to nothing.

Shall I redirect you to slimreaper's thread and the recent manga chapters?