Kisame,Guy and Kakashi vs Kages(Gaara,Ay,Onoki,Tsunade,May)

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Here is the link to where Deidara comments of Garra's sand

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HE STATES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NORMAL SAND AND GARRA PERSONAL SAND
 
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Here is the link to where Deidara comments of Garra's sand

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HE STATES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NORMAL SAND AND GARRA PERSONAL SAND
The way I see it is, Gaara's own sand is more or less super charged and superior to the average sand. It wouldn't really mean the sand he manipulates outside the gourd is free of chakra.
 

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Here is the link to where Deidara comments of Garra's sand

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HE STATES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NORMAL SAND AND GARRA PERSONAL SAND

Hm... Well I have this from Wiki

While he can control any dry sand, ordinary sand requires more chakra to manipulate, tiring him at a rapid rate.

It said more chakra implying he is already using chakra to begin with to control his sand.
 

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Hm... Well I have this from Wiki



It said more chakra implying he is already using chakra to begin with to control his sand.

He fused his chakra enhanced sand with normal sand to increase it's speed and stregnth. This is obviously shown in the Deidara. The sand he used to defend the village wasn't all his peronal sand, this was simply normal sand mixed and enhanced sand, making it more durable. Not all his sand is chakra enhanced.

In the page after the one i posted this is further explained.

This goes to the both of y'all.
 

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He fused his chakra enhanced sand with normal sand to increase it's speed and stregnth. This is obviously shown in the Deidara. The sand he used to defend the village wasn't all his peronal sand, this was simply normal sand mixed and enhanced sand, making it more durable. Not all his sand is chakra enhanced.

In the page after the one i posted this is further explained.

This goes to the both of y'all.
I'll either get back to ye' on this later, or remember to bring it up next time this topic comes back. I've got to do a little bit of research on this first.
 

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He fused his chakra enhanced sand with normal sand to increase it's speed and stregnth. This is obviously shown in the Deidara. The sand he used to defend the village wasn't all his peronal sand, this was simply normal sand mixed and enhanced sand, making it more durable. Not all his sand is chakra enhanced.

In the page after the one i posted this is further explained.

This goes to the both of y'all.

So your saying normal sand from the desert he can control without the use of chakra?
 

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Team 1 wins this.

Location clearly favours Kisame here (VOTE); with his already huge chakra reserves, he can display good scales of water techs. Oonki would be taken down by him, he has no way of outlasting Kisame; his ninjutsu based attacks would be absorbed anyway; GSB can clean it off. Gaara is the trickiest of Gokage here; but most sorts of chakra based attacks on Kisame are useless; which is what Gaara has in arsenal. And if he can go waterdome; he is extremely fast in dome; contolling sand and being able to fight or performing techs there would be much harder for Gaara when he is near drowning. And there are Kakashi and Gai; whom i think proven to be kage level in war arc; either of them would be able to keep their opponents at bay until Kisame to cut the deal.

Asides from "Kamui gg"; Kakashi has an actual arsenal which can compete with certain members of Gokage. Due to his skillset and sharingan; his reaction timing is top notch. A has linear pattern of movement; using kamui would be useful. With ; he can cut through Tsunade like ; thus restricting her chances of fighting and contributing. It would not be much hard; and kamui would not be wasted.

And there is Gai; at 6th gate he was able to by its force alone; he would blitz Mei and only defense of hers in close range is mist and it would be repelled. Asakujaku was strong enough to ; he is capable of overcoming almost any attack in her arsenal and burning her to ashes. And still would have energy and stamina to contribure to fight; since he was able to fight even more over it after 6th gate.
 

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So your saying normal sand from the desert he can control without the use of chakra?

There is a difference between normal sand and his special sand. Desert sand or sand made ( becoming environmental sand) is not chakra enhanced. The only time it is enhabced is to increase the defense and speed of the normal sand.

Deidara said "ONLY" his special sand has chakra in.it. therefore, i agree with the manga
 

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Gokage.....

Fact that Kakashi and Guy aren't on the same level as the current Gokage is just the biggest flaw they can pick out.

On top of that they have 2 people who can go ariborne..... lmao . This is a big time overkill.
 

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So your saying normal sand from the desert he can control without the use of chakra?

Can niggas dodge this question even harder? I'll answer you correctly. The normal Environmental sand (Not guard sand) isn't infused with chakra. However, it is manipulated by chakra evident by the databook. "The speed, hardness, and scale of the sand depends on the amount of chakra applied"

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Can niggas dodge this question even harder? I'll answer you correctly. The normal Environmental sand (Not guard sand) isn't infused with chakra. However, it is manipulated by chakra evident by the databook. "The speed, hardness, and scale of the sand depends on the amount of chakra applied"

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boy sit down, I've stated that already. Talking about dodging questions -_-

KingHashirama gets it!
 

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boy sit down, I've stated that already. Talking about dodging questions -_-

KingHashirama gets it!

Child please. You don't even want it with me.

Lmao, because Kakashi and Gai are Jounin level. Don't make me sick.
 

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Did i see someone say Kakashi Kamui's 2 people????

Gaara is Kakashi worst nightmare when it comes to the Kamui game, sand blocking his line of sight and sand going into kakashi's eyes is a very good counter to that OP move.

Ay literally fodderizes Kakashi, if yall gonna make Kakashi use 1 shot moves then Ay can go ahead and blitz him.U_U

Gokage wins mid-high diff.
 

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Can niggas dodge this question even harder? I'll answer you correctly. The normal Environmental sand (Not guard sand) isn't infused with chakra. However, it is manipulated by chakra evident by the databook. "The speed, hardness, and scale of the sand depends on the amount of chakra applied"

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So the normal desert sand isnt infused with chakra but gets manipulated with the use of chakra? So at the end of the day it's still infused with chakra since it's being manipulated with chakra?
 

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Child please. You don't even want it with me.

Lmao, because Kakashi and Gai are Jounin level. Don't make me sick.

i don't even know who you are to "want" anything from you haha

I never stated anyone's level, I agreed with the fact that gokage win. As far them being "kage level" is laughable in all actualities, but that's besides the point.
 

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Gokage.....

Fact that Kakashi and Guy aren't on the same level as the current Gokage is just the biggest flaw they can pick out.

On top of that they have 2 people who can go ariborne..... lmao . This is a big time overkill.

Lmao.

- Kakashi> Mei
- Kakashi> Tsunade
- Guy> Mei
- Guy> Tsunade
- Guy> Ay


OP: Team 1 curbstomps given the current conditions.

If you change the location and starting distance, the tides could easily, easily be changed.
 

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Lmao.

- Kakashi> Mei
- Kakashi> Tsunade
- Guy> Mei
- Guy> Tsunade
- Guy> Ay


OP: Team 1 curbstomps given the current conditions.

If you change the location and starting distance, the tides could easily, easily be changed.

Lmao, now I'm sure you are a troll.
 

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Lmao.

- Kakashi> Mei
- Kakashi> Tsunade
- Guy> Mei
- Guy> Tsunade
- Guy> Ay



OP: Team 1 curbstomps given the current conditions.

If you change the location and starting distance, the tides could easily, easily be changed.

The bold isn't even debatable... only an idiot would believe this... wow....

This thread is saddening.
 
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