Sasuke will surpass Madara (reasons) must read

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I am a fan of Madara Uchiha, but I dont see why it should be impossible for Sasuke to surpass him. Everyone will agree that Naruto will surpass Hashirama and Madara, so why cant we say that Sasuke can surpass Madara, having heard it from those who know him so well.

In the case of Tobirama, He fought Madara since his childhood and that's for like 20 years+. So Tobirama knows what Madara was like during his time to be able to make that statement "An uchiha that shows the same potential as madara".


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Secondly, Orochimaru is someone who has researched for about 30 years+ of his life. Kabuto said that the edo tensei of Madara was created from from the hypothesis of the data Orochimaru collected and Madara is a proof of his hypothesis. Oro researched on Madara and infused him with the rinnegan in his prime body. Kabuto said they made him better than his prime. This means Oro knows so much about Madara and his awakening of the rinnegan to mention that sasuke will surpass him. We know that an uchiha gets more powerful until he dies, there's no need to proof this. Their sharingan gets more powerful as they use it and they can gather as much jutsus as they want in this world. Oro probably knows sasuke's lust for power and sasuke is too young to be at his max. Give him 30+ years to get up to Oros level and with the knowledge about the juubi, chakra and all that crap he has now, not to mention the experience he will gain from this war, he will definitely surpass even EDO MADARA.
Only haters will insist that sasuke wont surpass Madara, but kishi wont make naruto the SO6P and sasuke something of madara's caliber. Sasuke will surpass madara and will attain even more than madara in this life. They need to be on the same level so, Naruto will be as powerful as the sage's first son, and Sasuke as powerful as his first son(who is powerful than edo madara).
 

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There are 3 reasons why Sasuke will be>Madara when he gets PS.

1. He has a shield, Madara doesn't.

2. He has arrows

3. He can use enton with susanoo, while Madara can't use anything of the sort.
 

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I am a fan of Madara Uchiha, but I dont see why it should be impossible for Sasuke to surpass him. Everyone will agree that Naruto will surpass Hashirama and Madara, so why cant we say that Sasuke can surpass Madara, having heard it from those who know him so well.

In the case of Tobirama, He fought Madara since his childhood and that's for like 20 years+. So Tobirama knows what Madara was like during his time to be able to make that statement "An uchiha that shows the same potential as madara".


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Secondly, Orochimaru is someone who has researched for about 30 years+ of his life. Kabuto said that the edo tensei of Madara was created from from the hypothesis of the data Orochimaru collected and Madara is a proof of his hypothesis. Oro researched on Madara and infused him with the rinnegan in his prime body. Kabuto said they made him better than his prime. This means Oro knows so much about Madara and his awakening of the rinnegan to mention that sasuke will surpass him. We know that an uchiha gets more powerful until he dies, there's no need to proof this. Their sharingan gets more powerful as they use it and they can gather as much jutsus as they want in this world. Oro probably knows sasuke's lust for power and sasuke is too young to be at his max. Give him 30+ years to get up to Oros level and with the knowledge about the juubi, chakra and all that crap he has now, not to mention the experience he will gain from this war, he will definitely surpass even EDO MADARA.
Only haters will insist that sasuke wont surpass Madara, but kishi wont make naruto the SO6P and sasuke something of madara's caliber. Sasuke will surpass madara and will attain even more than madara in this life. They need to be on the same level so, Naruto will be as powerful as the sage's first son, and Sasuke as powerful as his first son(who is powerful than edo madara).
Madara > Sasuke , why? i'll tell you why! bc he is an immortal being and he didn't stop fighting for his dreams , Sasuke however , he s*cks lol. he pretty much s*cks lol... he is always getting a power up , HE IS GETTING A POWER-UP THAT IS GIVEN TO HIM! (READ WELL) Not to mention that Sasuke is not using HIS POWER , HE IS USING JUGO'S POWER HIS COMRADE AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT SASUKE IS GOING TO SURPASS MADARA? REALLY DUDE? GTFO LOL.
 
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Madara > Sasuke , why? i'll tell you why! bc he is an immortal being and he didn't stop fighting for his dreams , Sasuke however , he s*cks lol. he pretty much s*cks lol... he is always getting a power up , HE IS GETTING A POWER-UP THAT IS GIVEN TO HIM! (READ WELL) Not to mention that Sasuke is not using HIS POWER , HE IS USING JUGO'S POWER HIS COMRADE AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT SASUKE IS GOING TO SURPASS MADARA? REALLY DUDE? GTFO LOL.
Well he apparently don't need you rude ignorant comments just keep posting that I will get Moderator for you
 

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Um DEEER

Sasuke had everything handed to him. Madara already did all the work during his lifetime to discovery the secrets of his power.
Itachi pretty much did everything and left his eyes to sasuke, plus pushed his life to get the power.
 

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I'm not sure I've seen anyone saying Sasuke won't surpass Madara. Must be Naruto fanboyism I guess. Since part I I expected Sasuke to be the 2nd comming of Madara or stronger. It was kind of obvious if anyone cared to pay attention. Much like Naruto is surpassing Hashirama. Those two will class and probably form their own Valley of The End with their jutsu.
 

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Naruto won't be surpassing Hashirama at least not with his own power(probably will have 10 tail chakra mode) Naruto has reached his full potential atm if he wants to surpass Hashi he will need more jutsu's and not more tail beast power. Chakra tamers like Hashi/Kisame/ect are all able to beat Naruto cause he relies on Tailed beast power and chakra power ups. If you take away or suppress it Naruto has to rely on his natural chakra and jutsus which atm isn't enough.

Sasuke has the potential to surpass EMS Madara. Rinnegan Madara isn't likely unless he gets Rinnegan too.
 
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Well he apparently don't need you rude ignorant comments just keep posting that I will get Moderator for you
ignorant comments? lol , i'm stating the truth , madara , did fought for his brothers , his 5 / 4 brothers died , he had special eyes + chakra , he did unlocked the mangekyou sharingan BY HIS OWN , he had to have the ems , bc his brother was pratically "killed" in the attack of tobirama , he still strove for his dream ... that was creating a village , then he got out of the village and strove for his other dream that was the IT and more things ... and you saying that i'm an ignorant guy? why? lol...
 

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Madara > Sasuke , why? i'll tell you why! bc he is an immortal being and he didn't stop fighting for his dreams , Sasuke however , he s*cks lol. he pretty much s*cks lol... he is always getting a power up , HE IS GETTING A POWER-UP THAT IS GIVEN TO HIM! (READ WELL) Not to mention that Sasuke is not using HIS POWER , HE IS USING JUGO'S POWER HIS COMRADE AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT SASUKE IS GOING TO SURPASS MADARA? REALLY DUDE? GTFO LOL.
Look at the difference in age. Madara has so much more experience. Hell, Madara has a second life to gain more experience. Sasuke is 16. He will without a doubt surpass Madara. You, as the thread already stated, are just a hater. Take your own advice and gtfo. ;)
 

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Sasuke has potential to surapass EMS Madara, There is noway in hell for Sasuke to surpass EDO Madara deal with it....



Only haters will insist that sasuke wont surpass Madara, but kishi wont make naruto the SO6P and sasuke something of madara's caliber. Sasuke will surpass madara and will attain even more than madara in this life. They need to be on the same level so, Naruto will be as powerful as the sage's first son, and Sasuke as powerful as
his first son(who is powerful than edo madara).
...Are u sure about this...:what::what::what:
 

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Sasuke surpassing Madara will only be acceptable if Kishi shows some real capabilities from Sasuke himself. Juugo is just a Senjutsu charger for Sasuke now. He can't keep him along all the time. But pulling such a bigazz plot is totally unacceptable.
If Sasuke undergoes a continuous working and charging process, any one can say that he can surpass Madara one day. Just doing some feats of Amaterasu and then pulling a legged Susano'o as well as a Senjutsu guinea pig in just two chapters is too much.
 

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Look at the difference in age. Madara has so much more experience. Hell, Madara has a second life to gain more experience. Sasuke is 16. He will without a doubt surpass Madara. You, as the thread already stated, are just a hater. Take your own advice and gtfo. ;)
oh , you're going that way? with the age? please , sir , don't :).

i just wanted to , that about the age lol... that's the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard...

EDIT: well , lets have fun , shall we?

Okay , your stated the age , that's fine by me , in the age 16 , Sasuke has the ems + curse seal , so what? he isn't as powerful as madara , neither intelligent as him .

why? i'll tell you why , since his childhood until the end (i don't know 100 % if this is true , the until the end thing , but wtv) he was in war , you do realize what is war in naruto and in the naruto right? he has to get stronger or he was getting killed by the senju guys , what madara did? he strive to get stronger? how? he didn't stopped training one single day , he didn't got any power-ups like ... handed , like for example , sasuke's curse mode . Madara , did unlocked the sharingan at a quite year old age , he did unlock the first tomoe of the sharingan then he unlocked the 2nd tomoe and the 3rd tomoe , next the thing we know , he killed his best friend (him and izuna) and he continue to strive to get "peace" (or what he proclaimed peace) Madara , never stop fighting or resting , he grew up with special chakra , with special eyes and a innate talent to control the bijus and fight against the senju , why? bc of his special chakra and eyes , with his special eyes , he could control de bijus , he controlled the ms and then he unlocked the EMS due to tobirama's kunai stab on izuna , even then , he didn't stopped struggling , you can read that in the manga . he hasn't been handed the power-up as sasuke as (well , sorry if i messed this up) and etc ... that's pretty much it ,that's a glimpse of why madara > sasuke . Madara couldn't stop envolving , Sasuke was in "peace" he wasn't in war like Madara , but he was in a calm place , called the village of hidden leaf , the konoha village.

And now , i'm out.
 
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oh , you're going that way? with the age? please , sir , don't :).

well , i'm out , i just state what i wanted to state , about the age lol... that's the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard ... and as for now , i don't have the arguments to counter that .
He is referring to Madara and Sasuke's age. He isn't jabbing at your age. Calm down a bit. He makes a valid point. Madara has lived way beyond his normal lifspan thanks to Hashi's cells and the Gedo Statue. He has had several lifetime to perfect, and learn of the world. Sasuke has been in this world 16 years and has already achieved this level of power.

Regardless of how Sasuke got his power. He is capable of using it more effectively then Madara did at his age. The edo Madara is an unfair comparison for Sasuke. He has EMS, Rinnegan, Mokuton, and Hashi's cells. half of his arsenal originally belonged to Hashirama. I still feel Sasuke will be the 3rd to awaken the Rinnegan, but we will see.
 

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He is referring to Madara and Sasuke's age. He isn't jabbing at your age. Calm down a bit. He makes a valid point. Madara has lived way beyond his normal lifspan thanks to Hashi's cells and the Gedo Statue. He has had several lifetime to perfect, and learn of the world. Sasuke has been in this world 16 years and has already achieved this level of power.

Regardless of how Sasuke got his power. He is capable of using it more effectively then Madara did at his age. The edo Madara is an unfair comparison for Sasuke. He has EMS, Rinnegan, Mokuton, and Hashi's cells. half of his arsenal originally belonged to Hashirama. I still feel Sasuke will be the 3rd to awaken the Rinnegan, but we will see.
read my post that is above yours :).
 

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oh , you're going that way? with the age? please , sir , don't :).

i just wanted to , that about the age lol... that's the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard...

EDIT: well , lets have fun , shall we?

Okay , your stated the age , that's fine by me , in the age 16 , Sasuke has the ems + curse seal , so what? he isn't as powerful as madara , neither intelligent as him .

why? i'll tell you why , since his childhood until the end (i don't know 100 % if this is true , the until the end thing , but wtv) he was in war , you do realize what is war in naruto and in the naruto right? he has to get stronger or he was getting killed by the senju guys , what madara did? he strive to get stronger? how? he didn't stopped training one single day , he didn't got any power-ups like ... handed , like for example , sasuke's curse mode . Madara , did unlocked the sharingan at a quite year old age , he did unlock the first tomoe of the sharingan then he unlocked the 2nd tomoe and the 3rd tomoe , next the thing we know , he killed his best friend (him and izuna) and he continue to strive to get "peace" (or what he proclaimed peace) Madara , never stop fighting or resting , he grew up with special chakra , with special eyes and a innate talent to control the bijus and fight against the senju , why? bc of his special chakra and eyes , with his special eyes , he could control de bijus , he controlled the ms and then he unlocked the EMS due to tobirama's kunai stab on izuna , even then , he didn't stopped struggling , you can read that in the manga . he hasn't been handed the power-up as sasuke as (well , sorry if i messed this up) and etc ... that's pretty much it ,that's a glimpse of why madara > sasuke . Madara couldn't stop envolving , Sasuke was in "peace" he wasn't in war like Madara , but he was in a calm place , called the village of hidden leaf , the konoha village.

And now , i'm out.
Sure, your point is valid. I agree Sasuke was handed most of his power ups. But that doesn't mean he hasn't been fighting all his life too. Examples:

Sasuke awakened his Sharingan on his own too. Agains Haku
Sasuke may have had MS handed to him by Itachi, but this was Itachi's desire, just like it as Izuna's desire to for Madara to take his eyes.
There was the fight with Killer Bee. Sasuke barely learned to access the MS then.
The 5 Kages. Fought them and lost. but it was still a tough and grueling fight.
The Danzo Fight. Learned to use Susanoo,
Now this war. So Sasuke has been fighting all his life as well. Just because it wasn't during wartime doesn't mean Sasuke has been Idle.
I agree with Orochimaru/Kishi....Sasuke will surpass Madara. Kishi and Manga>then any theory or reason we may have.
 
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