kisame level is equal to hokage level

[6ari8]

By looking about his previous feats :

1) he captured roshi the 5 tailes jinchicki so easily (the fight was like a picnic for kisame) .

Source? We don't know how that fight went so don't assume it was easy for him to capture Roshi. He himself said that he gave him a lot of trouble.

2) bee definitely will lose to kisame clone and thanks to raikage for saving his ass

Kisame was able to "corner" Bee because he took hostages and Bee was trying to save them.

3) with 30 percents of his power he managed to keep up with gai 6th gates and his team

He wasn't able to keep up with 6 gates Guy. He immediately lost when Guy went 6 gates.

4) he lost because he was outnumbered , lost too many chakra and luck played major role for gai sake .

He wasn't outnumbered and he didn't lose chakra, it was the opposite. He gained a lot of great chakra from Bee and fought Guy 1 on 1 on his favored terrain and still lost.


Kisame is by no means weak but don't overestimate him that much. He cannot beat any of the Hokages nor can he beat either Naruto or Sasuke.

 

[TheEvilOne]

You are simply overrated sasuke ..

Look at kisame fights and feats and compare it with sasuke fights and feats and you will find how much you are wrong by saying that sasuke has chance against kisame !

Kisame always fighting alone and win alone while sasuke always had help in all his fights ..

-Kisame was roflstomped by Guy ( most pathetic character )
- Ge got his ass kicked by Tenten, Neji, Lee and 5th gated Guy
- He got his ass kicked by Asuma

His only feat is an offscreen battle against Roshi and a battle against Killer Bee.


-Sasuke soloed part1 Naruto, Orochimaru, random gennins, 1000 ninja, Deidara, Itachi, Danzo, zetsu fodder, juubi fodder.

The Amaterasu oneshots him, the Susanoo sword bisects him. If you can't deal with this go and read an another manga.

 

[Leo Howard]

kisame is not stronger than sasuke and naruto, sasuke potentially has perfect susanoo which should be revealed in the upcoming chapters or when he and naruto fight

as for naruto he can make bm clones for crying out loud and just surround kisame with tbb barrages plus speed blitz him. samahada can only take a max of six tails worth of chakra and even if kisame was to form with samahada and trap naruto in the bubble all naruto has to do is create 1000 clones which would allow him to escape then again tbb barrage him

as for the hokages the only hokages i see kisame giving trouble is possibly tsunade and hiruzen as hiruzen lacks feats so its hard to argue without using hype and as for tsunade she is practically immortal with her seal she uses her strength in taijutsu which is the best way to fight kisame plus katsuya is one powerful summon capable of spitting acid and splitting into clones

as for hashirama, tobirama and minato kisame doesnt stand much of a chance hashirama is pretty self explanatory. tobirama is a water expert as well the only thing is, is that tobirama lacks feats in this are that kisame has shown but thats due to the 2nd being dead and all but with his ftg and his battle smarts and his possible use of edo tensei this fight is in the 2nds favor and by his feats alone he was able to fight and mortaly wound izuna who was said to rival his brother so the 2nds skill is their

minato is way to fast for kisame plus his reaction will make it near impossible for kisame to hit minato space time barrier will take care of any off kisames op water techs and if he gets marked by minato then minato can kill at will

If kisame fused with samahada then he can keep up with minato speed ..

wth, Maito Gai roflstomped Kisame... big time atleast that's what i remember...
and i love the "don't move a muscle or else..." thingie... DAT PUNCH

You know that and don't deby it ..
he was outnumbered and lost ton of chakra during his spy mission .

i think naruto in SM and sasuke with MS would be stronger than kisame....he should be able to defeat tsunade....but remember when he and itachi first came to konoha after hiruzen's death...he tells itachi that maybe itachi could fight on par with jiraiya with he can't....itachi replies saying tht if the two of them took on jiraiya either both would die...or else they might be able to kill jiraiya, but jiraiya would kill them both as well....if he can't beat jiraiya,he probably would'nt be able to beat minato who surpassed jiraiya and became hokage or hiruzen who was jiraiya's sensei....

Logic a > b > c us invalid beside kisame is way stronger than jiraya and he said that about jiraya because jiraya was over hyped for fighting
hanzo and survive ..

Lol I can bit that kisame can destroy both hanzo and jiraya at same time

 

[Kurama2012]

Kisame power is equal to jinchirichki power that's why he was called tailed beast with no tail and
Sasuke already admitted that he's fodder comparing to jinchirichki power so why are you overrating him like that !?

It's really annoying ..



You are simply overrated sasuke ..

Look at kisame fights and feats and compare it with sasuke fights and feats and you will find how much you are wrong by saying that sasuke has chance against kisame !

Kisame always fighting alone and win alone while sasuke always had help in all his fights ..

no his chakra is on the level of a tailed beast and so is ay yet he loses out to many characters and when has sasuke admitted hes fodder to a jinchuuriki? also your judging an ems sasuke who has barely shown anything to a character who has shown his limit its hardly a fair fight also sasuke has type advantage over kisame and i think you're underestimating sasuke

 

[chad062388]

A Kisame vs. Tobirama fight would be an epic battle =D

 

[cmilius]

Is Kurama2012 the only person who's got common sense by writing in this thread. I mean we've all watch the anime & manga's paged, how the hell can kisame win a fight against hashi, tobirama, minato, Naruto, sasuke, hiruzen or tsunade. Maybe against old hiruzen & tsunade.

Tell me something bruh, what kind of weed you smocking?!!!! I dnt need to explain for the 1st, 2, 4, naruto who's now is practically can't run out of chakra nd sasuke amaterasus susano.

 

[Thundergod123]

Tell me... How can Kisame beat Minato especially in one vs one? Do u ever read the manga??

People call Minato for the konohas yellow flash for nothing and u still keep argue Kisame has more feats, yes samehada, monster strength, op water techs and huge chakra, AND it doesn't mean he can beat Minato.
Minato's intelligence, reaction, reflexes and sealing techs should do this even if Kisame gets marked then its over for him...

Kisame is stronger in water, but Minato takes this with either mid or high diff....

 

[Kurama2012]

-Kisame was roflstomped by Guy ( most pathetic character )
- Ge got his ass kicked by Tenten, Neji, Lee and 5th gated Guy
- He got his ass kicked by Asuma

His only feat is an offscreen battle against Roshi and a battle against Killer Bee.


-Sasuke soloed part1 Naruto, Orochimaru, random gennins, 1000 ninja, Deidara, Itachi, Danzo, zetsu fodder, juubi fodder.

The Amaterasu oneshots him, the Susanoo sword bisects him. If you can't deal with this go and read an another manga.

err guy is not a pathetic character

he didnt really get beat by team guy that was a 30% kisame

and some of the fights you mentioned can be argued against like oro being all sick and all itachi planning his death and using fodder as a feat is just sad the onl way you should use fodder in feats is when the character showcases a new technique

just sayin

 

[garas56]

Pousible he can beat only Tsunade....

 

[olumiday]

1. Hashirama > Kisame. (Obvious)

2. Tobirama > Kisame: cos he has more jutsu up his sleeve (Edo Tensei, HiraishinGiri, etc)
If he could use his clone to fly away with Juubito's TBB, he could easily teleport Samehada far away to separate it from Kisame.
HiraishinGiri beheads Kisame.

3. Hiruzen > Kisame: has mastered far more jutsus than Kisame.
Kuchiyose Enma > Samehada
Worst case scenario Shiki Fuujin kills Kisame before killing Hiruzen.

4. Minato > Kisame: FTG is far faster than 7th gate Hirudora
He can also teleport Samehada far away.
Hiraishingiri beheads Kisame (just as it was used to stop Madara's control on Obito).

5. Tsunade > or = Kisame
Samehada would be problematic for Tsunade to deal with.
Medical Ninjutsu can be used to wreck strange havoc on Kisame's body.
this one goes either way.

 

[Leo Howard]

Source? We don't know how that fight went so don't assume it was easy for him to capture Roshi. He himself said that he gave him a lot of trouble.


Kisame was able to "corner" Bee because he took hostages and Bee was trying to save them.


He wasn't able to keep up with 6 gates Guy. He immediately lost when Guy went 6 gates.


He wasn't outnumbered and he didn't lose chakra, it was the opposite. He gained a lot of great chakra from Bee and fought Guy 1 on 1 on his favored terrain and still lost.


Kisame is by no means weak but don't overestimate him that much. He cannot beat any of the Hokages nor can he beat either Naruto or Sasuke.

Kisame captured son goku easily since he didn't have any injuries ..

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-Kisame was roflstomped by Guy ( most pathetic character )
- Ge got his ass kicked by Tenten, Neji, Lee and 5th gated Guy
- He got his ass kicked by Asuma

His only feat is an offscreen battle against Roshi and a battle against Killer Bee.


-Sasuke soloed part1 Naruto, Orochimaru, random gennins, 1000 ninja, Deidara, Itachi, Danzo, zetsu fodder, juubi fodder.

The Amaterasu oneshots him, the Susanoo sword bisects him. If you can't deal with this go and read an another manga.

Sasuke feats in your eyes !

1) naruto (naruto can solo him now easily with 1 shot)
2) orochimaru (was sick and if he was healthy Sasuke admitted to karin that he will die)
3) I don't care about fodders so don't bring genin in out argument
4) deidara (sasuke had zero chakra and thanks to manda, Sasuke is still alive )
5) itachi !???? ( itachi can destroy sasuke anytime he want to and he let his brother to win)
6) danzi (tell me how many times did karin healed him and also tobi helped him and without them definitely he will die)

Please sasuke fan boy !! Please use your brain for once _@:

 

[Kurama2012]

Kisame captured son goku easily since he didn't have any injuries ..

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Sasuke feats in your eyes !

1) naruto (naruto can solo him now easily with 1 shot)
2) orochimaru (was sick and if he was healthy Sasuke admitted to karin that he will die)
3) I don't care about fodders so don't bring genin in out argument
4) deidara (sasuke had zero chakra and thanks to manda, Sasuke is still alive )
5) itachi !???? ( itachi can destroy sasuke anytime he want to and he let his brother to win)
6) danzi (tell me how many times did karin healed him and also tobi helped him and without them definitely he will die)

Please sasuke fan boy !! Please use your brain for once _@:

she healed him once but that was at the end also danzo used karin as a hostage so they both used karin so yeah

 

[Leo Howard]

Is Kurama2012 the only person who's got common sense by writing in this thread. I mean we've all watch the anime & manga's paged, how the hell can kisame win a fight against hashi, tobirama, minato, Naruto, sasuke, hiruzen or tsunade. Maybe against old hiruzen & tsunade.

Tell me something bruh, what kind of weed you smocking?!!!! I dnt need to explain for the 1st, 2, 4, naruto who's now is practically can't run out of chakra nd sasuke amaterasus susano.

I have already explained that and re-read my posts again .

Tell me... How can Kisame beat Minato especially in one vs one? Do u ever read the manga??

People call Minato for the konohas yellow flash for nothing and u still keep argue Kisame has more feats, yes samehada, monster strength, op water techs and huge chakra, AND it doesn't mean he can beat Minato.
Minato's intelligence, reaction, reflexes and sealing techs should do this even if Kisame gets marked then its over for him...

Kisame is stronger in water, but Minato takes this with either mid or high diff....

The fight can go either way ..

If minato fought kisame in water then it will be minato's end ..

If the fight was far from the water then definitely minato will win ..

err guy is not a pathetic character

he didnt really get beat by team guy that was a 30% kisame

and some of the fights you mentioned can be argued against like oro being all sick and all itachi planning his death and using fodder as a feat is just sad the onl way you should use fodder in feats is when the character showcases a new technique

just sayin

No use to argue with him since it appeared that he is fanboying sasuke ..

Pousible he can beat only Tsunade....

He can beat her easily

1. Hashirama > Kisame. (Obvious)

2. Tobirama > Kisame: cos he has more jutsu up his sleeve (Edo Tensei, HiraishinGiri, etc)
If he could use his clone to fly away with Juubito's TBB, he could easily teleport Samehada far away to separate it from Kisame.
HiraishinGiri beheads Kisame.

3. Hiruzen > Kisame: has mastered far more jutsus than Kisame.
Kuchiyose Enma > Samehada
Worst case scenario Shiki Fuujin kills Kisame before killing Hiruzen.

4. Minato > Kisame: FTG is far faster than 7th gate Hirudora
He can also teleport Samehada far away.
Hiraishingiri beheads Kisame (just as it was used to stop Madara's control on Obito).

5. Tsunade > or = Kisame
Samehada would be problematic for Tsunade to deal with.
Medical Ninjutsu can be used to wreck strange havoc on Kisame's body.
this one goes either way.

Your logic is totally wrong and miss at same time ..
You are talking like kisame will stand and do nothing

 

[Avinash012]

I wonder which manga are you reading fir denying that


Hashirama is definitely more powerful than him ..

Tobirama is equal with kisame while kisame is better in water jutsu and have higher chakra ..

Minato is fast while kisame is stronger but kisame can keep up with minato spees and beat him if he fused with samahada ..

Only in Dreams...Tobirama as well as Minato stomps Kisame Kisame can't stand a chance against Sannin : Manga fact...

 

[6ari8]

Kisame captured son goku easily since he didn't have any injuries ..

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First, use manga sources because anime has a lot of filler like that pic which I suspect you got from the filler fight. Second, Kisame gets healed when he absorbs chakra as we've seen when he absorbed Bee's chakra after KCM Naruto attacked him so that pic doesn't imply he got away unscathed from the fight. He could've simply absorbed Roshi's chakra while fighting him and after to heal himself.

 

[Leo Howard]

she healed him once but that was at the end also danzo used karin as a hostage so they both used karin so yeah

He had to do it since he was outnumbered and tobi distracted him lots ..

However !
If the fight was

Danzo vs sasuke (with no interfer from any other ninja)

The result will be definitely ( sasuke death)

 

[Exaar]

-Kisame was roflstomped by Guy ( most pathetic character )

Pethetic or not, You can't deny Gai's strength.

- Ge got his ass kicked by Tenten, Neji, Lee and 5th gated Guy

Last i remember that was 30% kisame, Also he trapped Lee/Ten ten and Neji in water prison (could of killed them at any time) and forced Gai to use 5 Gates.

Plus while only at 30%, He flooded an entire area with One suiton that required one seal.

- He got his ass kicked by Asuma

Yeah, He totally got owned by asuma

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His only feat is an offscreen battle against Roshi and a battle against Killer Bee.

His fight with bee was very impressive.
Kisame would of beaten a guy who completely curb stomped Base sasuke and his team

-Sasuke soloed part1 Naruto, Orochimaru, random gennins, 1000 ninja, Deidara, Itachi, Danzo, zetsu fodder, juubi fodder.

Solo'ed part one naruto! WOW what a feat!

Orochimaru was sick, So nothing special

1000 Fodder big deal

Deidara, Sasuke should of died along with him but plot saved his ass

Itachi Let him win/Plot

Danzo Thanks to obito's presence

Zetsu fodder?, k11 chunin owned zetzu fodder, Nothing impressive

Juubi fodder? again so did the k11, Sakura defeated more than sasuke did. Nothing impressive

The Amaterasu oneshots him, the Susanoo sword bisects him. If you can't deal with this go and read an another manga.

Susanoo?, I guess you forget that susanoo basically is chakra, samehada/kisame absorb chakra, Also samehada absorbed 6 tailed worth of chakra against bee, Susanoo hasn't anywhere close to that level of chakra in it.
Amaterasu is a problem, Two ways Kisame can counter. Water dome or Giant shark bullet.

Sasuke might beat kisame in the end yes, but it isn't a complete stomp. You need to stop riding sasuke.

 

[Aquarius]

Now in a minute you'll post that deidara is hokage level cuz he beaten kazekage once. C'mon man how come kisame can beat tsunade or hiruzen or minato or any hokage. They are not piece of cake that any1 can come and have a bite. If you don't believe me let me state some facts :-
1. With Hashirama, everyone knows he is no match for him and there is no need to explain it
2. Tobirama, his water style is surpassed by no one No one
3. Hiruzen, his earth and fire style alongwith Enko Enma he is way to stronger than kisame
4. Minato, his speed is way more than kisame can handle
5. Tsunade, her Milotic regeneration with superb strength kisame is like _@:

So, i don't think kisame is hokage level. I'm not criticising him i'm just stating the facts

 

[Exaar]

2. Tobirama, his water style is surpassed by no one No one

Kisame is better at water style, well according to his manga feats

 

[Leo Howard]

Only in Dreams...Tobirama as well as Minato stomps Kisame Kisame can't stand a chance against Sannin : Manga fact...

Kisame level is above saninn level ..
Kisame level is kage level easily and he's better than any of others mizukage ..

Kisame can beat saninn too and I don't think either orochimaru or tsunade have chance of beating him .
While jiraya fight can go either way ..

First, use manga sources because anime has a lot of filler. Second, Kisame gets healed when he absorbs chakra as we've seen when he absorbed Bee's chakra after KCM Naruto attacked him so that pic doesn't imply he got away unscathed from the fight. He could've simply absorbed Roshi's chakra while fighting him and after to heal himself.

That was from manga and anime not from filler ..

He captured 5 tailed beast and u bet sasuke can't do that ..

Only hokage level shinobi can capture tailed beast and kisame did all by himself .

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