What the K11 could have been

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Neji deserved to be a clan leader; but Hyuuga did not change much; Neji was still calling Hinata "Hinata-sama", a honorific to refer superior people. Then he died for her, but she would not give her life for Neji. I don't know what author is trying to show by killing Neji according to destiny he was burdened with. Disgusting.

Anyway as i said; Neji could be a great clan leader.

Lee could be (and still can) the best taijutsu user in the manga; though i would be glad if he developed original techniques. He can be an elite jounin like Gai. But after war i think he can leave Konoha. There would not be nothing much left for him since Neji died and Gai is going to die as well if Lee survives.
 

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..... Kakuzu would have won. I don't want to sound rude or fanboyish, but he would have destroyed them without Kakashi.

I understand. What did you think of what I like to see from the K11?:)
 

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Neji deserved to be a clan leader; but Hyuuga did not change much; Neji was still calling Hinata "Hinata-sama", a honorific to refer superior people. Then he died for her, but she would not give her life for Neji. I don't know what author is trying to show by killing Neji according to destiny he was burdened with. Disgusting.

Anyway as i said; Neji could be a great clan leader.

Lee could be (and still can) the best taijutsu user in the manga; though i would be glad if he developed original techniques. He can be an elite jounin like Gai. But after war i think he can leave Konoha. There would not be nothing much left for him since Neji died and Gai is going to die as well if Lee survives.

(-_-)> Neji would have made for an amazing clan lead, but seriously?!

You think Hinata wouldn't have died for Neji?! Not really following Hinata's character. And the Sama part... That's Neji's call so we can't really call it out. Though it's quite clear Hinata couldn't care less about honorifics.
 

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You think Hinata wouldn't have died for Neji?! Not really following Hinata's character. And the Sama part... That's Neji's call so we can't really call it out. Though it's quite clear Hinata couldn't care less about honorifics.
Hinata's character is just "kind" in attitude. People don't give their lives for others for mere kindness; they do it out of genuine care; not attitude.
I just did not see anything indicates that she would sacrifice her life for Neji. She ditched her clansman in Pain's invasion arc; God knows what Hyuuga would do to poor man. She jumped over Naruto right after her cousin died, she did not spare mere seconds to close his eyes, not even getting into hand comment. Neji does not refer his other friends with such honorifics; the sama thing suggests he is suppose to see Hinata as his superior and there is still a sense of awkwardness in their relationship.

It is not my fault how the manga is written and how i percieve it. Most of the things suggesting Hinata genuinely and severely caring something other than Naruto consists of fanfiction.
 

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Man you're right. They need more spotlight where we can see how much they improved than they were before.

I like to see all the K11 to become Jonin and for them to be famous so they can be look up to like their clan leaders. Like for example:

Rock Lee- like you said him becoming a Jonin and having students for him to train and teach them to never give up

Ten Ten- become a Jonin where she can be in charge of Konoha's Ninja Tool system and train others how to use them, and definitely needs more spotlight, along with becoming the Hokage's bodyguard

Neji- take his uncle's place and surpass him

Kiba- become a Jonin, be the Head of the Inuzuka Clan, and surpass his mother and sister

Shino- become a Jonin, be the Head of the Aburama Clan and advancing his ninjutsu

Hinata- become a Jonin, and surpass her father, and be the Hokage's bodyguard and be assistance to Neji, and to have a one on one fight with a strong opponent

Ino- become a Jonin, improve her mind-affecting techniques and overcome some of the risks, in charge of the Intel Division and head of the Yamanaka Clan along with being assistance of the Medical Corp, (has a lot to do) and for her to get a spotlight where she can take on strong opponents

Shikamaru- become a Jonin, be the head of the Nara Clan, improve his shadow techniques some more by advancing his limits, and surpass his father's intelligence level

Choji- become a Jonin, surpass his father, and be the head of the Akimichi Clan

The fights where they could've had.

Ino-Shika-Cho vs. Kakuzu and Hidan- I would like to see what would've happen if Kakashi didn't showed up and I'm pretty sure Shikamaru did came up with something when he didn't came along but since he did he thought of something else.

That's pretty much it.=D

Lee would easily be the next Gai. Training his students of protecting what is precious and teach them no matter what they have they can be splendid ninja.

Neji should definitely have become the clan lead. It could have been a perfect opportunity to show the change in Hyuga and most likely had Hinata also been developed it would have shown their relationship and Hinata not caring for her position (giving it to one who's earned it).

Agree with Hinata. Would have liked her to show much more of her own style and maybe a change in eyes to reflect it. Also helping show her character better in giving her birthright to Neji.

Tenten would definitely be the weapons craftsman and overseer. Completely agree.

I'd add Anbu for Kiba and Shino in addition.


Ino is seemingly already on par with Inoichi in some departments. I could see her taking over the Intel division (assuming Ibiki isn't around). Would have been cool to see her show some smarts so it isn't all Shikamaru as the brains. As I mentioned a mind destruction jutsu stemming from Shintenshin.

I'd only add Hokage advisor to Shikamaru. And training Kurenai's child.

Not much else to say for Choji. Maybe a Hokage bodyguard. But yeah head of clan.

Main characters are pretty obvious.





Hinata's character is just "kind" in attitude. People don't give their lives for others for mere kindness; they do it out of genuine care; not attitude.
I just did not see anything indicates that she would sacrifice her life for Neji. She ditched her clansman in Pain's invasion arc; God knows what Hyuuga would do to poor man. She jumped over Naruto right after her cousin died, she did not spare mere seconds to close his eyes, not even getting into hand comment. Neji does not refer his other friends with such honorifics; the sama thing suggests he is suppose to see Hinata as his superior and there is still a sense of awkwardness in their relationship.

It is not my fault how the manga is written and how i percieve it. Most of the things suggesting Hinata genuinely and severely caring something other than Naruto consists of fanfiction.

Hinata has more than a "kind" personality she genuinely cares.

After losing, she brings ointment for both Kiba AND Akamaru.

Despite Neji hating her fully and beating her mercilessly, she calls him her brother and doesn't hate him for his actions, even going far enough to understand that he's the one truly suffering.

After Pain's blast, she doesn't care for her state, but desired to find treatment for Ko (the Clansmen you mentioned). Ko wished to refuse because he wanted her safe, where as she wanted to help him.

She didn't really ditch him... He wasn't in danger at that point, and more importantly saving Naruto was a priority that more people should have acted on.

And even recently she was seen rushing over to see how Shikamaru was just by hearing his name called out.

When Neji was out for the eye strain she said she'd do her best. This is despite Shino basically having things covered. Her extra percussion displaying a desire to guarantee safety and to win the war.

She genuinely cares for people because she is one who wishes for peace and harmony.



Honestly she did not jump all over Naruto.... People who dislike het severely over interpret the idea of holding hands. Furthermore Neji was in Naruto's hands not hers... I don't think I've ever seen someone not holding the victim close the eyes in someone else's hands. In addition what's better standing alert against the gigantic juubi or keep mourning Neji's death. Doing the latter would put only more people at risk.




Considering a lack of panel time and even then only panel time near the person she loves... That isn't bad for a side character.



I'm not saying you have any control over the manga nor am I saying you aren't entitles to your opinion, but I personally believe that Hinata has more character than a desperate housewife. Especially since such a person wouldn't likely have a chance to be with Naruto.
 

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I love the lee,kiba,shino vs taka.

I would of liked to see ino with some new unique genjutsu and maybe flower style jutsu vs Karin. Karin would need some kind of powerup too.
 

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Lol it's an Jonnin Exam?
And I was kidding about theTsunade thing, but Naruto does fear her. Every since Yamato told him the story of jirayah and Tsunade.

@KBGK

I used that term due to a lack of a better phrase. Kishi's portrayal of Neji towards the end was to soft and out of character in my opinion a change of heart is good, but the transition wasn't to good. though, i could be wrong i didn't really focus on hinata/neji moments to much.

That was a long time ago, if naruto wanted to fight her with intentions to kill then she's done and you know it.
 

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But what about Sakura? Head of the Medics since Tsunade is Hokage? And also I see it like this

Ino- will take over her father place, she is the only one seen to be stonger than him, in telepathy.

Tenten- can build and design weapons, I think she needs an affinty to be great. Like magnet release would've fit her well, but she would be OP. But she will most likely be a teacher.

Hinata- Clan leader.

Kiba-I like him being an Anbu

Shino- Anbu tooo

Choji- Can be a...I dont see him being anything too important. because he isn't really...idk. But maybe a body guard for Tsunade, she doens't really need one, unless they are fast. Or what his father does.

Shikamaru- What his father does.

Lee-Tsunade's body guard, logically, he would love to protect the woman who taught Sakura how to be such a great ninja...you know how Lee is.

Neji- if he was dead he would be hinata's puppy.

Sakura_ Tsunade assistant/ 2nd Head Medic/ body guard

Naruto- Kami-sama

Sasuke - Naruto's *****

Fixed it for you XD
 

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Hinata has more than a "kind" personality she genuinely cares.

After losing, she brings ointment for both Kiba AND Akamaru.
That does not mean much of a care. I help people on the street when they fall; or try to give medication as much as i can to my friends if there is a situation i can help. Some of those people are not even much close to me.

Despite Neji hating her fully and beating her mercilessly, she calls him her brother and doesn't hate him for his actions, even going far enough to understand that he's the one truly suffering.
Well she has to. Neji's father died over her and his destiny. And the fact that she blatantly said "he was the one who is suffering" was terrible. But come to think of it in all these years; Hinata probably never approached to Neji to make thinks better. Nothing suggests it.

After Pain's blast, she doesn't care for her state, but desired to find treatment for Ko (the Clansmen you mentioned). Ko wished to refuse because he wanted her safe, where as she wanted to help him.

She didn't really ditch him... He wasn't in danger at that point, and more importantly saving Naruto was a priority that more people should have acted on.

And even recently she was seen rushing over to see how Shikamaru was just by hearing his name called out.
Hyuuga still could punish the guy badly. Hinata's intention to confess rather than saving; she said she was being selfish and she was no match for Pain. She had no plan at all; after her confession Naruto and village would still be obliterated based on Hinata's knowledge on Naruto's situation.
When Neji was out for the eye strain she said she'd do her best. This is despite Shino basically having things covered. Her extra percussion displaying a desire to guarantee safety and to win the war.
"The war for protecting Naruto-kun!!"

She genuinely cares for people because she is one who wishes for peace and harmony.
I never stated she wishes for destruction and slaughter. She is just kind in attitude, does not want problem around and that's that.



Honestly she did not jump all over Naruto.... People who dislike het severely over interpret the idea of holding hands. Furthermore Neji was in Naruto's hands not hers... I don't think I've ever seen someone not holding the victim close the eyes in someone else's hands. In addition what's better standing alert against the gigantic juubi or keep mourning Neji's death. Doing the latter would put only more people at risk.
Hinata was Neji's relative and suppose to be closer to Neji.
Juubi did not stop Lee from having a decent mourning and moment for closing eyes; and no one had been risked. Not to mention he covered a distance before coming next to Neji; which suggests more time were spent. If Hinata had a time for long ass speech to Naruto; she could very well have time to close Neji's eyes.




Considering a lack of panel time and even then only panel time near the person she loves... That isn't bad for a side character.

There are many side characters who has more development, dimention or atleast bearable attitude compared to her and most of them do not even have much of paneltime either. Author decides and portrays how a character would be like; being portrayted as revolving around Naruto suggests that she indeed revolves around Naruto.

I'm not saying you have any control over the manga nor am I saying you aren't entitles to your opinion, but I personally believe that Hinata has more character than a desperate housewife. Especially since such a person wouldn't likely have a chance to be with Naruto.
That's Hinata..."has a chance to be with Naruto". That's what am i saying; that's her character; it is consisting of whether being with Naruto or not. I myself; do not find a character interesting based on potential of being a part of a pairing.

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We talked this before; but we will probably never agree in the matter unless i see decent character dynamism from Hinata. Until then based on what i have seen, Hinata is neither a character who has dimentions nor has any type of appeal as a character.
 
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Sasuke = Police force leader or Anbu like his brother

Naruto = hokagay

Skaura = medical nin

Shika = Naruto's right hand man

Choji = some ninja

Ino = fodder

Hinata = Hyuuga fodder

Kiba = tracking nin

Shino = tracking nin

neji = dead

Lee = Gai

Tenten = fodder
 

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Lee would easily be the next Gai. Training his students of protecting what is precious and teach them no matter what they have they can be splendid ninja.

Neji should definitely have become the clan lead. It could have been a perfect opportunity to show the change in Hyuga and most likely had Hinata also been developed it would have shown their relationship and Hinata not caring for her position (giving it to one who's earned it).

Agree with Hinata. Would have liked her to show much more of her own style and maybe a change in eyes to reflect it. Also helping show her character better in giving her birthright to Neji.

Tenten would definitely be the weapons craftsman and overseer. Completely agree.

I'd add Anbu for Kiba and Shino in addition.


Ino is seemingly already on par with Inoichi in some departments. I could see her taking over the Intel division (assuming Ibiki isn't around). Would have been cool to see her show some smarts so it isn't all Shikamaru as the brains. As I mentioned a mind destruction jutsu stemming from Shintenshin.

I'd only add Hokage advisor to Shikamaru. And training Kurenai's child.

Not much else to say for Choji. Maybe a Hokage bodyguard. But yeah head of clan.

Main characters are pretty obvious.

Yeah I agree with ya. Kiba and Shino do look Abu-like ninjas (especially Shino).

I agree with ya about Ino. Kishi should already make her use the Shinraiju (Mind Destruction) since she used it in some of the filler episodes in Part I, and would be able to take on some foes with that technique or more. Ino should also improve her Shintenshin (Mind Transfer) by transferring her consciousness but leave some of her in her body in order for her to not be defenseless (includes more than one target). In the Intel Division, she would be awesome gathering information from others. And by her being a medical ninja, with her chakra control she should be good at Genjutsu, so she can start practicing that with her Mind techniques and like in the games.

I agree with ya about Shikamaru. He's super smart, and has an apprentice to train in the future. But he should also train himself with his ninjutsu more by overcoming his limits since that is his one primary weakness. When he over uses his Shadow techniques, he gets weaker and the technique wouldn't be strong as before and the time limit shortens too. I say if he trains them more often, he wouldn't be at his limit in such a short time so much and wouldn't let foes notice it like Hidan.
 

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it's not too late, I can still imagine shikamaru taking his old man's jonnin comander post, lee and tenten being hokage kakashi's body guards(after guy's death), choji is no chunnin though, he, shino and hinata being their noble's familie head, while sai takes root anbu new generation, Ino takes her dad's place and sakura becames the strongest medical kunoichi and lives far away while being called a sannin. Kiba is the only one which I have no place for( even though he's my favorite)
 

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They all do need better development.
 

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it's not too late, I can still imagine shikamaru taking his old man's jonnin comander post, lee and tenten being hokage kakashi's body guards(after guy's death), choji is no chunnin though, he, shino and hinata being their noble's familie head, while sai takes root anbu new generation, Ino takes her dad's place and sakura becames the strongest medical kunoichi and lives far away while being called a sannin. Kiba is the only one which I have no place for( even though he's my favorite)

Well Kiba would probably end up as his clan leader, and in addition he'd probably also end up as a figurehead in tracking departments (probably helpful especially to Anbu).


Yeah I agree with ya. Kiba and Shino do look Abu-like ninjas (especially Shino).

I agree with ya about Ino. Kishi should already make her use the Shinraiju (Mind Destruction) since she used it in some of the filler episodes in Part I, and would be able to take on some foes with that technique or more. Ino should also improve her Shintenshin (Mind Transfer) by transferring her consciousness but leave some of her in her body in order for her to not be defenseless (includes more than one target). In the Intel Division, she would be awesome gathering information from others. And by her being a medical ninja, with her chakra control she should be good at Genjutsu, so she can start practicing that with her Mind techniques and like in the games.

I agree with ya about Shikamaru. He's super smart, and has an apprentice to train in the future. But he should also train himself with his ninjutsu more by overcoming his limits since that is his one primary weakness. When he over uses his Shadow techniques, he gets weaker and the technique wouldn't be strong as before and the time limit shortens too. I say if he trains them more often, he wouldn't be at his limit in such a short time so much and wouldn't let foes notice it like Hidan.

Lol well said I'd agree. Considering she could split her soul to possess two people I find it odd she can't do so, but retain her soul. Or even better be able to jump from body to body similar to how Dan possessed people.


That does not mean much of a care. I help people on the street when they fall; or try to give medication as much as i can to my friends if there is a situation i can help. Some of those people are not even much close to me.


Well she has to. Neji's father died over her and his destiny. And the fact that she blatantly said "he was the one who is suffering" was terrible. But come to think of it in all these years; Hinata probably never approached to Neji to make thinks better. Nothing suggests it.


Hyuuga still could punish the guy badly. Hinata's intention to confess rather than saving; she said she was being selfish and she was no match for Pain. She had no plan at all; after her confession Naruto and village would still be obliterated based on Hinata's knowledge on Naruto's situation.

"The war for protecting Naruto-kun!!"


I never stated she wishes for destruction and slaughter. She is just kind in attitude, does not want problem around and that's that.




Hinata was Neji's relative and suppose to be closer to Neji.
Juubi did not stop Lee from having a decent mourning and moment for closing eyes; and no one had been risked. Not to mention he covered a distance before coming next to Neji; which suggests more time were spent. If Hinata had a time for long ass speech to Naruto; she could very well have time to close Neji's eyes.






There are many side characters who has more development, dimention or atleast bearable attitude compared to her and most of them do not even have much of paneltime either. Author decides and portrays how a character would be like; being portrayted as revolving around Naruto suggests that she indeed revolves around Naruto.


That's Hinata..."has a chance to be with Naruto". That's what am i saying; that's her character; it is consisting of whether being with Naruto or not. I myself; do not find a character interesting based on potential of being a part of a pairing.

...

We talked this before; but we will probably never agree in the matter unless i see decent character dynamism from Hinata. Until then based on what i have seen, Hinata is neither a character who has dimentions nor has any type of appeal as a character.

Hahaha yeah we are on opposite ends of how we perceive her character XD! I just enjoy that your are on average far more respectful when going about it than most people.
 
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