[Misconception]Kurama's chakra isn't powering-up Sasuke's techniques by 3x

[UchihaNagashi]

You sir, have brought back the honor and glory real Sasuke-fanboys deserve.

You deserve and shall receive my respect.

May SO6P A.K.A Lord of NB, lead your way to a bright future in NB.

 

[adeshina365]

It's debatable that it's not as significant a buff as others, but only fanboys would claim that it didn't enhance the susanoo's power. Also, Kakashi talked about the 3X increase referring to the time Kurama's chakra was transferred to him without a cloak. When he got a cloak, he said it got much stronger. Then they got 1-tail cloaks which is what Sasuke has. So in reality, it probably still is a comparable to X3 increase even if you're right.

You should also know that the 9 tails chakra 100X Kakashi's, so actual chakra amounts that the Uchiha have might not be a significant enough to reduce not be increased by a similar amount.

How much the Kyuubi's chakra powers-up Sasuke can't really be determined, but its going to for sure be significantly less than Kakashi since Sasuke's chakras are in another league of power compared to Kakashi's. All Sasuke's Doujutsu techniques depend on powerful yin chakras.​

 

[Bogard]

I believe it's debatable. Chakra aside, we heard from Naruto that Kyubi's chakra was particularly benefic for him to enter SM faster. Like it also accelerate the growth or Mokuton based techniques. So it does work as a sort of accelerator besides being a powerful chakra itself. So it's possible that it acted as an accelerator which helped Sasuke to develop his Susanoo further

 

[warpathixclan]

It's debatable that it's not as significant a buff as others, but only fanboys would claim that it didn't enhance the susanoo's power. Also, Kakashi talked about the 3X increase referring to the time Kurama's chakra was transferred to him without a cloak. When he got a cloak, he said it got much stronger. Then they got 1-tail cloaks which is what Sasuke has. So in reality, it probably still is a comparable to X3 increase even if you're right.

You should also know that the 9 tails chakra 100X Kakashi's, so actual chakra amounts that the Uchiha have might not be a significant enough to reduce not be increased by a similar amount.

its the simple fact that sasukes susano is way larger now, it was smaller then his snake summon..... no its as large as kurama yin manifested...its so obvious fanboys, all these feats will be because naruto powered him up.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

How much the Kyuubi's chakra powers-up Sasuke can really be determined, but its going to for sure be significantly less than Kakashi since Sasuke's chakras are in another league of power compared to Kakashi's. All Sasuke's Doujutsu techniques depend on powerful yin chakras.

Yeah, but according to the databook, their stamina are equal.

 

[adeshina365]

Yeah, but according to the databook, their stamina are equal.

The last databook came out 5 years ago.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

The last databook came out 5 years ago.

But it also took note about the powerful chakra of the Uchiha. If fact it said "along with his naturally powerful chakra, the curse mark gives Sasuke god-like speed."

 

[adeshina365]

I believe it's debatable. Chakra aside, we heard from Naruto that Kyubi's chakra was particularly benefic for him to enter SM faster. Like it also accelerate the growth or Mokuton based techniques. So it does work as a sort of accelerator besides being a powerful chakra itself. So it's possible that it acted as an accelerator which helped Sasuke to develop his Susanoo further

I should note again that I'm not saying that the Kyuubi's chakra won't power-up Naruto at all, it will.

Also I agree with what you're saying about the Kyuubi's chakra being an accelerator, Blaze Release has an interesting theory about it being the catalyst for Sasuke's growth.​

But it also took note about the powerful chakra of the Uchiha. If fact it said "along with his naturally powerful chakra, the curse mark gives Sasuke god-like speed."

Powerful chakras and stamina aren't even the same thing though.

Stamina has to do with chakra quantity. I should note again that EMS Sasuke has a far larger pool of chakra than Hebi Sasuke.​

EMS Sasuke has far more chakra than Hebi Sasuke. He was able to match the chakra output of a Chou Futon: Rasenshuriken and still have plenty in the tank. (note: Viz translation says the same thing)​

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[warpathixclan]

I should note again that I'm not saying that the Kyuubi's chakra won't power-up Naruto at all, it will.

Also I agree with what you're saying about the Kyuubi's chakra being an accelerator, Blaze Release has an interesting theory about it being the catalyst for Sasuke's growth.

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but you are going as far to say that kyubi chakra doesnt power sasuke up by 3x just because of something kakashi said. yet sasukes susano was riding his snake summon yet now its as large as kurama manifested..its around 3 times bigger.... sooo?

 

[Xerotes]

Regardless he's still being powered up and using "borrowed power", which in the past he claimed to be a bad thing, Lord Sausage, king of irony and hypocrisy.

 

[adeshina365]

but you are going as far to say that kyubi chakra doesnt power sasuke up by 3x just because of something kakashi said. yet sasukes susano was riding his snake summon yet now its as large as kurama manifested..its around 3 times bigger.... sooo?

You're assuming Sasuke was making the largest Susanoo he could. The situation didn't demand it.​

Regardless he's still being powered up and using "borrowed power", which in the past he claimed to be a bad thing, Lord Sausage, king of irony and hypocrisy.

I haven't said otherwise​

 

[Prince Charles]

We already saw how kurama cloak powered up hinata's air palm or whatever its called and it got more powerful noted by madara

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so take this and view it how you want to

 

[warpathixclan]

You're assuming Sasuke was making the largest Susanoo he could. The situation didn't demand it.​

that is a good point, but it doesn't fly because sasukes susano actualy never is close to that big, when he killed zetsu... when he faught with itachi he didnt hold back on his susano that would be bullshit.. unless he gets ps.... this is all kuramas chakra. i mean SHIT KURAMA MADE THE NARA FODDER CLAN ACTUALY PHYSICALY ABLE TO HARM/HOLD THE JUBI... that shits overpowered as ****... the majority of sauce fans deny this.

 

[Crossroads]

We already saw how kurama cloak powered up hinata's air palm or whatever its called and it got more powerful noted by madara

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so take this and view it how you want to

Not to mention Naruto's current BM cloak is stronger, as noted by Chouji:

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[Xerotes]

We already saw how kurama cloak powered up hinata's air palm or whatever its called and it got more powerful noted by madara

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so take this and view it how you want to

Pretty much this

 

[adeshina365]

We already saw how kurama cloak powered up hinata's air palm or whatever its called and it got more powerful noted by madara

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so take this and view it how you want to

Did you even read the OP?

Sasuke will get more powerful as a result of the Kyuubi's chakra, I don't dispute this.

What I am saying is that the difference will be smaller for him since his chakras are already leagues above a normal shinobi.

Let me express this mathematically:

Difference in chakra power = Power of Kyuubi chakra/ Power of user chakra

Since Sasuke's chakra is far more powerful than the likes of Kakashi, that ratio will be smaller.

 

[Xerotes]

Did you even read the OP?

Sasuke will get more powerful as a result of the Kyuubi's chakra, I don't dispute this.

What I am saying is that the difference will be smaller for him since his chakras are already leagues above a normal shinobi.

Yeah but that's just you speculating what YOU think will happen, when the manga says it will surely power him up a great deal.

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

Yeah but that's just you speculating what YOU think will happen, when the manga says it will surely power him up a great deal.

I agree with this^

The OP is just speculating. There is no proof that Kurama's chakra won't affect Sasuke the same as any other shinobi and also, both yin and yang chakra was transferred to the SA this time...

 

[ImNoOne]

There is a misconception regarding chakra amount and chakra quality. Uchiha have strong/powerful chakra which does not mean that they have a big chakra pool. So far the only Uchiha that has shown massive chakra was Madara.

So although I do agree that Sasuke has a big chakra pool the above referred argument is invalid.