These 4 Vs. SA

[AGoodBoy]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA why'd you restrict ET. You know Hashi, Minato and Hiruzen would solo these chumps eh? :heh::heh:

 

[Bogard]

Not to mention he can hand out chakra via Kurama's help like the

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. This made Kamui 3x its normal power.

lol, Team 1 stands no chance at all.

Infact Minato can do it by himself. He possess the same ability Naruto possess(or i'd rather say Naruto inherited it from his dad). It's stated by Kyubi since it's with this method that he handed his chakra and Kushina's in Naruto. Only that Naruto can handle a greater volume:

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[Crossroads]

You included the edo hokage? Team 1 loses badly. U_U

BM minato + hashirama can take on naruto & sasuke, gaara would be a threat considering the location but onoki/raikage combo take him down easily..

& btw, did you restrict tobi's edo? if not then dealing with killerbee will prove to be a challenge, however other from the SA alongside bee will swarm him regardless.

If I consider the K11, oro, tsunade, mei & the rest of the SA, then distributing them to the appropriate fights will be all that it takes, & with shikamaru's intelligence he can work out the best combinations of shinobi.

In other words, low diff-stomp

Precisely why they'll be seperated.

Oh and, the Gokage play no role in this fight for the first 20 minutes. And Kakashi isn't present at the battlefield.

So really, the only threat is Hashirama, BM Minato, and Bee (who'd get 1 shotted)

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

@Crossroads, yeah, that is if you pick and choose who fights who to suit your argument. Unfortunately, when working as a team, your team just gets buttraped. Bee's already experienced Sasuke's Ama when transforming full 8, don't think he'll fall for it that easily. And in fact, Kakashi can use

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to sever one of Bee's tentacles, allowing him to use the

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, to escape Sasuke's Amaterasu.

 

[KidGamer65]

Infact Minato can do it by himself. He possess the same ability Naruto possess(or i'd rather say Naruto inherited it from his dad). It's stated by Kyubi since it's with this method that he handed his chakra and Kushina's in Naruto. Only that Naruto can handle a greater volume:

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lmfao, thanks for clearing up any doubts I had on this subject.

End result. Team 1 gets shitted on. Hashirama with a Kyuubi cloak? Lmao...

 

[AGoodBoy]

Hold on... Hashi and co aren't restricted? This is plain retarded to believe team 1 wins. They're all non-factors. Handing out Kyuubi chakra? V2 Bee with kyuubi chakra and Samehade says hi. Hashirama says hi.

Naruto will end up like this in 5 seconds

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[Tartarus]

@Crossroads, yeah, that is if you pick and choose who fights who to suit your argument. Unfortunately, when working as a team, your team just gets buttraped. Bee's already experienced Sasuke's Ama when transforming full 8, don't think he'll fall for it that easily. And in fact, Kakashi can use

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to sever one of Bee's tentacles, allowing him to use the

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, to escape Sasuke's Amaterasu.

actually octopi can naturally shed limbs, so Kakashi won't be needed.

 

[Crossroads]

=D

Even with the location advantage he was having trouble with 25 Susanoo clones, give him the Kyuubi's cloak and he still gets buttraped by Hashirama. Regardless, once the Buddha comes out, its over for him and Naruto.

Not to mention we still have Killer B here, who can take out Gaara and Tobirama by himself going by current feats, even with BM Cloak, B is far too much for Gaara to handle. 1 Bijuu Dama would end him let alone Continuous Bijuu Dama. That frees up Hashirama to take out Naruto while Minato beats Sasuke.

We also have the rest of the Gokage, especially the Ay and Onoki combo who can handle Gaara.

These guys stand no chance.

Bee wouldn't go into the Hachibi's state, or this would happen:

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I will agree with you that Hashirama can take anyone here 1v3, but 1v4 is too much for even him with current Manga feats.

And BM cloak tanked this:

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Not even mentioning how strong Gaara's defense would be enhanced given the BM cloak and the current fighting location.

Like I stated before, Kakashi plays no role in this fight.

Bee gets 1 shotted if he enters Hachibi Mode.

Lee would only be problems with BM cloak against the four I stated. Guy would be disposed of by any of four excluding Gaara.

I don't even see Minato handing out the cloak really, he'd be the main target and one of the first kills.

The four I listed take this of the most highest of difficulties, it can be done.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

actually octopi can naturally shed limbs, so Kakashi won't be needed.

Yeah, I know. He did it in the war if I recall. I just said that to you know, spruce up ma argument

Edit - No, it was Kakashi who accidentally ****ed up Bee's tentacle, or did I forget?

 

[Crossroads]

Yeah, I know. He did it in the war if I recall. I just said that to you know, spruce up ma argument

Like I said before, Kakashi plays no role in this fight.

And a Manga Scan of Le Bee doing this would be nice.=D

 

[Draphsin]

Precisely why they'll be seperated.

Oh and, the Gokage play no role in this fight for the first 20 minutes. And Kakashi isn't present at the battlefield.

So really, the only threat is Hashirama, BM Minato, and Bee (who'd get 1 shotted)

Okay the time limit gives them a slight advantage, but still the big players wont fall that easily (some K11/SA fodders will fall for sure) But the hokage wont fall (Minato can mark the others, gaara's seal is useless).

Come to think of it, the fact that the hokage cant die means that this battle is over before it started, having 1 sealer puts team 1 at a severe disadvantage already.

and Bee (who'd get 1 shotted)

Btw I ignored this because its simply untrue, SOTRS is covering it though. Lol

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Like I said before, Kakashi plays no role in this fight.

And a Manga Scan of Le Bee doing this would be nice.=D

Nah, he didn't. I just remembered it was Kakashi who accidentally cut off his tentacle, as I'm pretty sure I remember Kakashi apologising for his tentacle. Though, it's a fact of life that octopus can shed limbs when need be.

Not that it matters, as Bee can easily have someone else cut off the tentacle (i.e Mifune). Spreading knowledge will be key, and if Bee's already got one shot by Amaterasu in the past, don't think he'll be as stupid as to go full 8 right next to Sasuke again, knowing the probable consequences.

When you said SA, I took it Kakashi was included. My bad.

 

[Bogard]

lmfao, thanks for clearing up any doubts I had on this subject.

End result. Team 1 gets shitted on. Hashirama with a Kyuubi cloak? Lmao...

No problem

Like I said before, Kakashi plays no role in this fight.

And a Manga Scan of Le Bee doing this would be nice.=D

And why is that? Kamui would be a dangerous threat for anyone in your team Naruto included

 

[KidGamer65]

Bee wouldn't go into the Hachibi's state, or this would happen:

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While he's busy fighting Minato? Not happening. He's already outmatched, looking away would make it even worse. Not to mention he can substitute out of it like he did before.

I will agree with you that Hashirama can take anyone here 1v3, but 1v4 is too much for even him with current Manga feats.

And BM cloak tanked this:

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Good thing Hashirama doesn't have to fight them 1 vs 4.

Even Madara's Incomplete Susanoo tanked that, its defense isn't that great nor is this attack that powerful. It just covers a large AoE.

Not even mentioning how strong Gaara's defense would be enhanced given the BM cloak and the current fighting location.

-Yasaka Magatama ripped right through his sand defense. Regardless of a cloak, it isn't blocking or letting him survive a Bijuu Dama from Minato or Killer B.

Bee gets 1 shotted if he enters Hachibi Mode.

Nope.

I don't even see Minato handing out the cloak really, he'd be the main target and one of the first kills.

No one on team 1 is strong enough to defeat Minato fast enough to prevent him from handing out chakra (Or the cloak if its possible) and they aren't going to jump him, while Hashirama and Killer B watch.

The four I listed take this of the most highest of difficulties, it can be done.

It can't be done. Its blasphemous to even say it can be done.

 

[Crossroads]

Okay the time limit gives them a slight advantage, but still the big players wont fall that easily (some K11/SA fodders will fall for sure) But the hokage wont fall (Minato can mark the others, gaara's seal is useless).

Come to think of it, the fact that the hokage cant die means that this battle is over before it started, having 1 sealer puts team 1 at a severe disadvantage already.

BM Minato would be the SA's key player in this fight honestly, he'd be the first target.

Gaara's absolute defense + BM Cloak + Tobirama's mark would be a lot to get passed, especially when he can fly and avoid 99% of the fodders attacks. Gaara would be nicely protected, and if he's in a pickle while distracting Hashirama.. then he can easily receive help from Naruto's SM sensing and Tobirama's FTG.

No problem

And why is that? Kamui would be a dangerous threat for anyone in your team Naruto included

Because the OP states the Gokage, and people presently at the battlefield excluding Obito, Madara, and the God Tree.

Kakashi be in that Kamui land, though.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Minato is honestly the most dangerous man on this field (not strongest, most dangerous). I mean, I don't know about you guys, but a teleporting TBB shooter doesn't sound like happy days; especially not for team 1.

 

[Crossroads]

While he's busy fighting Minato? Not happening. He's already outmatched, looking away would make it even worse. Not to mention he can substitute out of it like he did before.

Good thing Hashirama doesn't have to fight them 1 vs 4.

Even Madara's Incomplete Susanoo tanked that, its defense isn't that great nor is this attack that powerful. It just covers a large AoE.



-Yasaka Magatama ripped right through his sand defense. Regardless of a cloak, it isn't blocking or letting him survive a Bijuu Dama from Minato or Killer B.



Nope.


No one on team 1 is strong enough to defeat Minato fast enough to prevent him from handing out chakra (Or the cloak if its possible) and they aren't going to jump him, while Hashirama and Killer B watch.



It can't be done. Its blasphemous to even say it can be done.

Few valid points, I do have a counter for each one but I have to run a few errands, I'll be back fairly soon.

 

[Draphsin]

BM Minato would be the SA's key player in this fight honestly, he'd be the first target.

Agreed he would be the key, however it would take multiple people to take him out (naruto to blitz him, gaara to seal him & sasuke to take out the kunai). Minato wont fight those three by himself, & if they specifically target him then they're wide open for an attack from one of the others (bee/hashi/gai come to mind).

Gaara's absolute defense + BM Cloak + Tobirama's mark would be a lot to get passed, especially when he can fly and avoid 99% of the fodders attacks. Gaara would be nicely protected, and if he's in a pickle while distracting Hashirama.. then he can easily receive help from Naruto's SM sensing and Tobirama's FTG.

This would be a good match but the mark goes both ways here (¬‿¬), anyways I dont see how gaara can effectively seal hashi if he's marked. & anyways gaara is needed to take out minato. If minato isnt targeted by gaara first then team 1 has no chance to seal any edos. Gaara can stall hashi, however this only hurts him as onoki & A will be on the way & that will spell gaara's end.

Minato is honestly the most dangerous man on this field (not strongest, most dangerous). I mean, I don't know about you guys, but a teleporting TBB shooter doesn't sound like happy days; especially not for team 1.

Agreed, this matchup actually showed me how OP edo minato is on a team O_O

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Naruto solos the whole alliance minus Kakashi's kamui.

Edit: As in everyone who was present at Gaara's speech and the Gokage.

 

[Crossroads]

While he's busy fighting Minato? Not happening. He's already outmatched, looking away would make it even worse. Not to mention he can substitute out of it like he did before.

His substitution was partially Sasuke's doing of cutting off the tail that Bee escaped with, he wouldn't make the same mistake twice:

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Good thing Hashirama doesn't have to fight them 1 vs 4.

Gaara would be the perfect decoy with BM cloak in this setting, I think you're underestimating Gaara.. it's not like I'm saying Hashirama loses to Gaara, I'm merely saying Gaara would be one hell of a stall for Hashirama. Gaara's power:
Absolute Defense:

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He can fly, a large margin of Hashirama's jutsu wouldn't even touch him:

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Overwhelming power, given the location... would overwhelm even the likes of Hashirama (unless Buddha is involved which would only be a last resort), can shape his sand to just about anything he needs for the situation.. moved enough sand to grab a meteorite..:

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You're telling me someone like this couldn't keep Hashirama at least occupied for a few minutes while the opposing teams key player gets slaughtered?

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Even Madara's Incomplete Susanoo tanked that, its defense isn't that great nor is this attack that powerful. It just covers a large AoE.

Okay? You act like Susano'o is weak. It took the physically strongest person in the Manga to break that shit:

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Yasaka Magatama ripped right through his sand defense. Regardless of a cloak, it isn't blocking or letting him survive a Bijuu Dama from Minato or Killer B.

Probably your best arguement, as this is my personal speculation of what the BM cloak would let Gaara achieve.

But please do tell me... what long ranged Jutsu does Hashirama have that can reach Gaara and penetrate his absolute defense on steroids? (Excluding the last minute resort Buddha)

Nope.

Yep.

No one on team 1 is strong enough to defeat Minato fast enough to prevent him from handing out chakra (Or the cloak if its possible) and they aren't going to jump him, while Hashirama and Killer B watch.

Naruto is:

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Again, Bee is irrelevant to this unless he's in Hachibi Mode, which ensures his demise via Amaterasu.

Don't know why you're bringing up Bee when Sasuke 1 shots him.

It can't be done. Its blasphemous to even say it can be done.

Your personal opinion of how you'll perceive the fight, the word blasphemous hardly fits this situation.

Conclusion: It can be done at the highest of difficulties.

Gaara distracts Hashirama, Sasuke/Naruto/Tobirama handle Minato.

Naruto's KCM clones solo K11, don't even tell me his clones aren't capable of this, they are.

Minato's gone, 99% of SA is dead via KCM rape, Enton Orb, Suiton, etc.

Naruto/Sasuke/Tobirama join the fight against Hashirama and shit gets serious, taking him out 1-2 minutes before the Gokage get there.

Naruto/Kurama have chakra reserves for days, replenishes BM cloak and #Peace Gokage (Remember, it's Gokage excluding Gaara)

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*Whatever counter you have I'll get back to tomorrow*