These 4 Vs. SA

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His substitution was partially Sasuke's doing of cutting off the tail that Bee escaped with, he wouldn't make the same mistake twice:
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Octopi can get rid of their tails on their own just like he did right , so no, B can manage this substitution.

Gaara would be the perfect decoy with BM cloak in this setting, I think you're underestimating Gaara.. it's not like I'm saying Hashirama loses to Gaara, I'm merely saying Gaara would be one hell of a stall for Hashirama. Gaara's power:
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Did you not miss Yasaka Magatama of his? Giving that a boost from the Kyuubi's chakra isn't going to make it strong enough to withstand anything like or .

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Same as above.

Sand Armor? Really? That is a thin layer of sand that covers his body, it is clearly not meant for defense against attacks like the ones Hashirama can produce.


He can fly, a large margin of Hashirama's jutsu wouldn't even touch him:
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Overwhelming power, given the location... would overwhelm even the likes of Hashirama (unless Buddha is involved which would only be a last resort), can shape his sand to just about anything he needs for the situation.. moved enough sand to grab a meteorite..:

I hope you know that Onoki lightened that meteor before the sand moved up to grab it, not to mention it used the ground as a support so the meteor would completely crush it.

If Gaara manages to get high enough in the air where Hashirama can't reach him, then he can call the Buddha to smack him back down. There is no doubt that the Buddha is going to come out early in a fight against a proficient Susanoo user and Kurama's Perfect Jin who can utilize Sage Mode at the same time as Biju Mode.

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You're telling me someone like this couldn't keep Hashirama at least occupied for a few minutes while the opposing teams key player gets slaughtered?
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-No, he isn't keeping him occupied for a few minutes. If he stays where Hashirama can reach him, get gets murked by Mokuton, if he goes out of reach, Buddha smacks him back down and crushes him, unless you think Hashirama will just sit there and stare at an opponent he can't hit.

-A few minutes isn't even long enough for the rest of your team to take out Minato, not when he has Killer B to help him.


Okay? You act like Susano'o is weak. It took the physically strongest person in the Manga to break that shit:
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Compared to the level of power we are dealing with in this thread, yes, an incomplete Susanoo is weak.


Probably your best arguement, as this is my personal speculation of what the BM cloak would let Gaara achieve.

But please do tell me... what long ranged Jutsu does Hashirama have that can reach Gaara and penetrate his absolute defense on steroids? (Excluding the last minute resort Buddha)
Doesn't really need to considering he has multiple ways of preventing him from taking flight to begin with.

-Mokuton Hands that . That can sprout right near Gaara. He gets caught and crushed.

-Mokuton that can sprout even at Gaara's standing point. He gets bound and crushed.

-Killer B can lob a Bijuu Dama at Hashirama, use Wood God to catch it, and then toss it back at Gaara. This is likely to fail though, but the first two will work.

Gaara dies a second after this match begins if he engages Hashirama, he'd never even make it in the air.




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Again, Bee is irrelevant to this unless he's in Hachibi Mode, which ensures his demise via Amaterasu.

Don't know why you're bringing up Bee when Sasuke 1 shots him.
B has counters to an Amaterasu as shown above, not to mention if Minato and Killer B jump in to help Sasuke, either of the two can protect him from Amaterasu as they can both sense chakra, Minato can due to and Hashirama can naturally do it as he , so they will know its coming and be able to block LoS with Mokuton or Minato's Kyuubi cloak allowing B to charge up his Continuous Bijuu Dama and fire it off. B isn't getting one shotted here, not a chance.


Your personal opinion of how you'll perceive the fight, the word blasphemous hardly fits this situation.

Conclusion: It can be done at the highest of difficulties.

Gaara distracts Hashirama, Sasuke/Naruto/Tobirama handle Minato.
Gaara isn't going to last a minute against Hashirama, your distraction strategy is flawed, even if he could distract him, these guys aren't going to take out Minato before Hashirama can take out Gaara.

Did we forget that Hashirama can make Mokuton clones now? He can let his clone beat the shit out of Gaara (Which won't even take long anyway considering clones can still utilize while the original is in Edo makes little difference as they can only use as much chakra at once as they could when they were alive, not surprising considering his chakra is ) while the original takes on Naruto leaving Minato to beat down Sasuke and Tobirama.

Naruto's KCM clones solo K11, don't even tell me his clones aren't capable of this, they are.
They are non factors anyway.

Minato's gone, 99% of SA is dead via KCM rape, Enton Orb, Suiton, etc.
Uh, no. Minato isn't getting taken out.

Naruto/Sasuke/Tobirama join the fight against Hashirama and shit gets serious, taking him out 1-2 minutes before the Gokage get there.

Naruto/Kurama have chakra reserves for days, replenishes BM cloak and #Peace Gokage (Remember, it's Gokage excluding Gaara)

lol @ these guys taking Hashirama out. If Naruto ever utilizes his Bijuu Dama against Hashirama, Shinsuusenju catches it, slams it right back into them and they all die anyway as Tobirama isn't tanking a Bijuu Dama from Naruto, nor is Sasuke with his level of Susanoo. Not when it is Senjutsu enhanced.

Without Bijuu Dama he doesn't stand a chance against Hashirama, but using kills his teammates.
 

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Team 1 wins.

BSM Naruto can make clones that can wreck everyone.
Sasuke with new susanoo feat destroys everyone as well w/ amaterasu weapons.
Gaara w/ kyuubi cloak is A GOD!!! If hinata with kyuubi cloak could repel juubi, just imagine what gaara could do with his sand. He would also wreck, bury, and crush the entire alliance.

Tobirama isn't needed. But if you add them all together, they solo with low-mid difficulty. The only thing that might save the alliance is Might Guy and Lee opening the 8th gate, but even still I don't think that will be enough.


Edit: I didn't realize the other hokage were in this. Team 1 doesn't wreak but they still win. Hashirama wouldn't be too much of a problem, Gaara IMO should be the perfect counter to him if gaara has kyuubi cloak.
 
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Naruto solo's
Sasuke solo's

Gaara and Tobirama would get killed though (without Naruto)

EDIT oops I missread OP

htey aren't solo'ing anything (mostly because Gaara is a non-factor)
 
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Team 1 wins.

BSM Naruto can make clones that can wreck everyone.
Sasuke with new susanoo feat destroys everyone as well w/ amaterasu weapons.
Gaara w/ kyuubi cloak is A GOD!!! If hinata with kyuubi cloak could repel juubi, just imagine what gaara could do with his sand. He would also wreck, bury, and crush the entire alliance.

Tobirama isn't needed. But if you add them all together, they solo with low-mid difficulty. The only thing that might save the alliance is Might Guy and Lee opening the 8th gate, but even still I don't think that will be enough.


Edit: I didn't realize the other hokage were in this. Team 1 doesn't wreak but they still win. Hashirama wouldn't be too much of a problem, Gaara IMO should be the perfect counter to him if gaara has kyuubi cloak.

The gaara wank is too much.
 

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I'm gonna go with team 1 here, they may be outnumbered but BSM Naruto and Sasuke's firepower (The former even more so) is tremendous. Not to mention Naruto can hand them the cloak.

This is only if the Edo Hokage aren't included though, if they are then the SA obviously wins.

If they're not, it's a rape match since Naruto already can solo the Gokage and the rest are fodder.
 

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Hashirama With kyuubi chakra along with minato and his FTG is enough to at least hold these guys off for 20 seconds.


Once onoki comes, Tsunade boost + Kyuubi Cloak = God sized jinton GG.
 

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Bee is fodder? oro is fodder? Kakashi is fodder? Gai is fodder?ect.....

Didn't read OP, Edo tensei from Orochimaru is restricted. Kakashi isn't at the battlefield currently so he is void when it comes to this fight.

Gai is powerful, but what's a king to 4 Gods?

Please read the OP before trying to debate, good sir.

Hashirama With kyuubi chakra along with minato and his FTG is enough to at least hold these guys off for 20 seconds.


Once onoki comes, Tsunade boost + Kyuubi Cloak = God sized jinton GG.

OP says 20min, not 20 seconds.

And Minato would be one of the first people to be killed.
 

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Either Edo Hashirama or Edo Minato (Since he has BM) could both fight evenly with Naruto by themselfs.

SA wins
 

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Forgot Bee was here as well.

Honestly, Edo Hasirama, Edo Minato, and Bee would be enough.
 

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Team 2 is way too stacked with Bee, the Edo Hokages (Specifically Hashirama and BM Minato), and the Gokage.

SA takes this Mid-Diff
 
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