[Theory] The flaw of the infinite tsukuyomi plan

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First this thread isnt about the moral implications of the Infinite Tsukuyomi, its about discussing why the Infinite Tsukuyomi Plan is Unrealistic, Unsustainable, and Selfish

Some people argued its better to live in a perfect world made of lies and illusions than live in a 'harsh' reality , and fine, i disagree with that and thats final, but this thread is about the IT itself

The IT is unrealistic and unsustainable, i say this because assuming people live in 'dream world' they would need sustenance for their real bodies to survive, if people continue to live in reality, and eat normal food, there would still be people who live in poor countries and starve with lack of food...

People pointed out that, for both cases the Madara or Obito will connect EVERYONE in the planet with roots or cables from the shinju and channel chakra to 'feed' them, whether that is logical or not, decide yourself

But the reason i say its not is, Madara and Obito claimed to create a perfect world, however, Obito, and Madara if he were to be able to control the shinju, must be MORTAL and be the juubis jinchuuriki, since the Shinju and the Juubi is one and the same.

We found in the last chapter that the Shinju's true nature is to devour chakras from its victims and leave them dead as dry husks, but they argue madara and obito will channel chakra instead to 'feed' them, by controlling it

However, the SO6P, who was the jinchuuriki of the PERFECT juubi aka the shinju, grew old, ill and died, so he was powerful, and mortal like everyone else...

So what will happen if Madara and Obito fell ill e.g heart attack/disease or simply grew old and died?

The shinju would be loose and instead of giving chakra would instead devour everyone with chakra and killed all those it was originally feeding, which means game over and goodbye to so called 'perfect' world..

I tried to think about how it might be possible for IT to be sustained, like maybe Madara passed the juubi/shinju into someone else when he is old, but there is no guarantee said host would be able to control the shinju, as we saw with obito, which is why i say, the IT is not the salvation of the world, it is the opposite

There is no 'Eternal happiness' in IT, there is only death and despair at the end of the road
 

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Nice thought. It does seem that way. But perhaps it is similar to itachi's tsukuyomi but one that never ends where the people will live in a dream world for eternity without a single second passing in the real world.
 

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No , in a dream you can find real happiness. In the reality , many things don't go as you wish.
Dude, did you even bother reading the entire post? This thread has nothing to do with that.

OT: Makes sense to me, if the S06P couldn't live forever with the Juubi I don't see how Obito and Madara are gonna be any different. The illusion is bound to end eventually.
 

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Honestly, I see an even bigger flaw. Assuming Mugen Tsukiyomi requires eye contact to initiate like the original technique, as long as someone isn't stupid enough to look at the moon they will remain free from the illusion. In that case, all it would take is one person waltzing up to Obito and slitting his throat while he's trapped in dream land.
 

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Honestly, I see an even bigger flaw. Assuming Mugen Tsukiyomi requires eye contact to initiate like the original technique, as long as someone isn't stupid enough to look at the moon they will remain free from the illusion. In that case, all it would take is one person waltzing up to Obito and slitting his throat while he's trapped in dream land.
Guess they gotta battle with eyes closed
 

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Honestly, I see an even bigger flaw. Assuming Mugen Tsukiyomi requires eye contact to initiate like the original technique, as long as someone isn't stupid enough to look at the moon they will remain free from the illusion. In that case, all it would take is one person waltzing up to Obito and slitting his throat while he's trapped in dream land.
This. It's my biggest question since IT was introduced.
 
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1 u guys given to much thought to a anime plan 2 who said they want every1 to stay alive keep them in a illusion till they die they wouldnt feel hungery an such in dream land besides in dreams an such time passes faster 3 as for the not looking up my guess is since its so powerful it'l reflect off everything hell itachi caught naruto with his finger nail lol 4 i would pefer a dream than a cruel reality wouldnt u
 

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Honestly, I see an even bigger flaw. Assuming Mugen Tsukiyomi requires eye contact to initiate like the original technique, as long as someone isn't stupid enough to look at the moon they will remain free from the illusion. In that case, all it would take is one person waltzing up to Obito and slitting his throat while he's trapped in dream land.

You assume it works on the senses like normal Genjutsu and not like KA....
 

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You people are downright ignoring the OP. This not the topic. Minus rep to all of you.


OT: I remember someone talking about Nagato reviving Madara, when Madara dies he revives Nagato and so on. Something like a loop. I'm not sure if it was mentioned in the manga/anime or someone's thread here on NB.
 
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