Establishing why FTG laughs at (E)MS techniques

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1. Minato always avoids direct eye-contact when fighting an Uchiha U_U
Fallacy, you have no proof that obito could even cast genjutsu while controlling kurama at the same time. It could've been too chakra taxing. Did minato say to himself that he needs to avoid direct eye contact? No, so your only proof is minato not getting caught in a genjutsu in a situation where it may not have been possible.

2. Speedblitz even before activating MS
Lol You wanna play that game? MS activated before minato throws his kunai U_U

GG Tsukuyomi
Ephemeral solos for pete's sake! XD

Or are we talking about Alive Itachi with infinite stamina Lol
Nope we're talking about alive Itachi with more than enough stamina to end this petty match. :cool:
 

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Uchiha fanboys already know this.

Haven't you people noticed that they don't fact Susanoo into their arguments anymore because they know its useless against an ftg user. Hence why their only pathetic response is "Tsukuyomi says hello gg" or "finger genjutsu one shots" -_-
 

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Nice thread and I agree with u..

U can use these Examples to support u r argument

Minato teleporting Kyubi without Bunta(no contact b/w Minato and Kyubi)

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Gaara seperating Madara from his susanoo

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Itachi's Susanoo has no contact with Itachi

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No Tobirama in this thread. This thread could use some more Tobirama.

Nice thread thread though.
The term "FTG users " includes Tobirama as well as Minato..
 

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You forgot to bring up Tsukiyome. FTG would be effective but not infallible against tsukiyome.
FTG is good against tsukiyome because the user can get around his opponent to avoid looking into his eyes.
However this is assuming the user is well prepared. If the FTG has no seals prepared than Tsukiyome would be faster than the creation of the seals. Also any FTG user would be powerless once Tsukiyome hits.
In short it depends on the situation, but Tsukiyome would be an (E)MS users best move against FTG
I didn't forget tsukuyomi. I left it on purpose because it wasn't the purpose of my thread
 

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Fallacy, you have no proof that obito could even cast genjutsu while controlling kurama at the same time. It could've been too chakra taxing. Did minato say to himself that he needs to avoid direct eye contact? No, so your only proof is minato not getting caught in a genjutsu in a situation where it may not have been possible.



Lol You wanna play that game? MS activated before minato throws his kunai U_U



Ephemeral solos for pete's sake! XD



Nope we're talking about alive Itachi with more than enough stamina to end this petty match. :cool:
Looool



^^ Proof of no eye-contact

Game?

Tsukuyomi is a close range tech 5 Meter max Lol, FTG Kunai + Radius = GG Tsukuyomi caster XD
 

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Fallacy, you have no proof that obito could even cast genjutsu while controlling kurama at the same time. It could've been too chakra taxing. Did minato say to himself that he needs to avoid direct eye contact? No, so your only proof is minato not getting caught in a genjutsu in a situation where it may not have been possible.
Do u really think Minato is stupid enough to fight an Uchiha by making an Eye contact..?

If u really think so ...u r nothing but a hater ....
 

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So you saying the ftg user is fighting blind?
FTG users can fight blind since they are sensor. Not as if they would need it anyway since tsukuyomi is 5meters range at most. At this range, it's clearly deadly for Itachi to risk such a thing while facing someone as fast as Minato having instant teleportation technique
How do you speedblitz a Susanoo user?
By teleporting it/him away. The purpose of my thread
 

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I thought it was well-established that Hiraishin would completely negate the effects of Amaterasu, I guess not.

Regardless, Minato would not be able to teleport someone Sasuke's Susano'o seeing as he can completely encase the entity in Enton, [living] Minato has no means of extending his chakra onto it without direct contact.
 

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I thought it was well-established that Hiraishin would completely negate the effects of Amaterasu, I guess not.

Regardless, Minato would not be able to teleport someone Sasuke's Susano'o seeing as he can completely encase the entity in Enton, [living] Minato has no means of extending his chakra onto it without direct contact.
What stops him from sending a chakra charged kunai to connect or a clone?
 

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I thought it was well-established that Hiraishin would completely negate the effects of Amaterasu, I guess not.

Regardless, Minato would not be able to teleport someone Sasuke's Susano'o seeing as he can completely encase the entity in Enton, [living] Minato has no means of extending his chakra onto it without direct contact.
Minato can use Shadow Clone :rolleyes:

After he showed that Jutsu he became more OP U_U
 

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Looool



^^ Proof of no eye-contact
Hahaha sorry buddy but your thread proves nothing. Controlling bijuu takes a considerable amount of chakra, you have no idea if obito was able to control genjutsu or not, & btw nice job disregarding this scan.



Obito had a perfect opportunity to cast genjutsu, & this is before minato even knew that he was madara. :cool:

Game?

Tsukuyomi is a close range tech 5 Meter max Lol, FTG Kunai + Radius = GG Tsukuyomi caster XD
Fail, prove tsukuyomi's range boy, just because its cast within a short distance doesnt mean that it cant be used for long range, has Itachi ever complained about not being able to cast tsukyomi from a distance? No, so once again, fallacy. U_U

Do u really think Minato is stupid enough to fight an Uchiha by making an Eye contact..?

If u really think so ...u r nothing but a hater ....
Ephemeral deals with him temporarily, once that is dealt with then tell me how minato escapes tsukuyomi?

Unless you believe minato can throw a kunai faster than itachi can point. U_U
 

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Never thought about the amaterasu advantage. Even if susanoo is connected to the user, it won't help. All Minato or Tobirama have to do is mark a location, keep a clone there, and then FTG the susanoo and user there. This leaves Minato or Tobirama inside of it, free to attack an Uchiha.
 

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He doesnt know who uchiha itachi is or what he looks like so itachis eyes would be the last thing he would see.
He doesn't need to know who Itachi is to know Sharingan can cast genjutsu. Reason why he avoided eye contact in close range against Obito
 
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