Wordplay about the Ootsutsuki's

[bharatputra]

So then it's Ootsutsuki. Here is how my mind went about it...

The 't' in the name is silent.

Ootsutsuki => Oosusuki.

Over the years, the second 'su' became 'ma' ,due to some shift in heritage. Therefore,

Oosusuki => Oosumaki.

As decades passed and by hearsay, 'Oo' became 'U' and 'su' became 'zu' . (This final change isn't far fetched as they sound very similar)

Oosumaki => Uzumaki

Thus, we have Uzumaki as the descendants of Ootsutsuki.
What say you

 

[Javaweb]

I'm so confused . Oh I get it IDK

 

[SagemodejubihostSasuke]

Interesting I can say the least but I rather just wait for manga to tell me.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

even if oosutsuki's descendants is uzumakis, that still dont make Rikudo an uzumaki, Rikudo was born as a ootsutsuki and will remain a ootsutsuki

 

[Forest]

really?? Really really really?

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[Byron123]

Lol that's rather interesting. Although I don't have knowledge on how language changes exactly through the change of time, I must say that it does make sense=D Simple yet possible.

 

[Avinash012]

even if oosutsuki's descendants is uzumakis, that still dont make Rikudo an uzumaki, Rikudo was born as a ootsutsuki and will remain a ootsutsuki

This ^^^^^^^

 

[thatgirl]

Trollolololol

 

[bharatputra]

I'm so confused . Oh I get it IDK

Well we simply can't be certain till Kishi explains the Uzumaki heritage and it's SO6P relation, if any. ^_^

Interesting I can say the least but I rather just wait for manga to tell me.

Ofcourse. Kishi is known to make all sorts of plot twists and what not. We can only speculate right now.

even if oosutsuki's descendants is uzumakis, that still dont make Rikudo an uzumaki, Rikudo was born as a ootsutsuki and will remain a ootsutsuki

Yes, that's true. Kishi has given us a name now and as long as Kishi doesn't tell us Uzumaki's and Ootsutsuki's were the same, Uzumaki will remain descendants of the SO6P at the most.

really?? Really really really?

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Haha.That made me lol. =D

Lol that's rather interesting. Although I don't have knowledge on how language changes exactly through the change of time, I must say that it does make sense=D Simple yet possible.

Thanks buddy. ^_^

 

[Byron123]

even if oosutsuki's descendants is uzumakis, that still dont make Rikudo an uzumaki, Rikudo was born as a ootsutsuki and will remain a ootsutsuki

As his sons were born ootsutsuki and they came to be known as senju as uchiha ancestors Besides, I already stated before, if the sage got his chakra from birth what tells you that the characteristics he had, did not classify them as what we later learned to be uzumaki's characteristics? I already posted that at my theory but you didn't answer. He might have been the first uzumaki without actually have the name. The idea that so many people believe what they see immediately is just ludicrous. Have you any idea how many things in this manga first depicted in a certain way and then changed completely? Kurama being devil himself, Itachi a mass murderer, Orochimaru as a maniac who slowly gets more and more logical, Obito being dead, Madara being Tobi, Nagato being akatsuki's leader. What makes you think that everything is so definite?

It's funny really how many people use as dogma that chapter in which Obito states senju and uchiha relationship to the sage as an undeniable fact and yet no one talks about older's son dojutsu which has a spirral patter identical to uzumaki. If Kishimoto wanted to end this once and for, he would have given to the elder son a mere sharingan. Yet he gave him a dojutsu with the spiral pattern specifically. Why from all the symbols chose this one?

 

[AaaaNinja]

Remember that writing and pronounciation and writing systems are completely different from English. It's not as simple as the removal of one letter like it would be in English. 'Tsu' is a whole letter, つ. And 'su' is the letter す. While the 'u' in tsu is pronounced all the time, the 'u' in su is pronounced rarely, so they are quite different letters altogether in pronounciation: If you watch the show in its original language, when they say "Susano'o" it sounds like they're saying "Sano."

Ootsutsuki is written 大筒木 in the manga "tsutsu" is written with 筒 which cannot be so easily converted because it's a completely different writing system from what the name Uzumaki is written with.

Ootsutsuki: 大筒木 oo-tsutsu-ki
Uzumaki: うずまき u-zu-ma-ki

What you're saying is like "Hey guys, just take a no-smoking sign and change it into the letter a." That's a stretch. Nice try.

 

[peeps625]

10/10 for effort and creativity

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

So then it's Ootsutsuki. Here is how my mind went about it...

The 't' in the name is silent.

Ootsutsuki => Oosusuki.

Over the years, the second 'su' became 'ma' ,due to some shift in heritage. Therefore,

Oosusuki => Oosumaki.

As decades passed and by hearsay, 'Oo' became 'U' and 'su' became 'zu' . (This final change isn't far fetched as they sound very similar)

Oosumaki => Uzumaki

Thus, we have Uzumaki as the descendants of Ootsutsuki.
What say you

i appreciate your effort :O

 

[bharatputra]

Hey OP we're not even talking about the English language or even the same writing system. 'Tsu' is a whole letter, つ. And 'su' is the letter す. While the 'u' in tsu is pronounced all the time, the 'u' in su is pronounced rarely, so they are quite different letters altogether in pronounciation: If you watch the show in its original language, when they say "Susano'o" it sounds like they're saying "Sano."

Ootsutsuki is written 大筒木 in the manga "tsutsu" is written with 筒 which cannot be so easily converted because it's a completely different writing system from what the name Uzumaki is written with.

What you're saying is like "Hey guys, just take a no-smoking sign and change it into the letter a." That's a stretch. Nice try.

Hmmm...I don't know much about kanji writing, but I have simply gone about on the sounds these words make. What I wanted to convey was that the Japanese 'tsutsu' does indeed sound like the english 'susu' with the 't' being silent. Even the play on 'Oo' and 'U' and then 'su' and 'zu' was as per the sound of the consonants. I only wrote down the spelling changes to make the name change appear more clear. Names have a funny way of changing over the centuries.

10/10 for effort and creativity

Thank you so much.

 

[bharatputra]

i appreciate your effort :O

Thanks. I appreciate it.

 

[AaaaNinja]

Hmmm...I don't know much about kanji writing, but I have simply gone about on the sounds these words make. What I wanted to convey was that the Japanese 'tsutsu' does indeed sound like the english 'susu' with the 't' being silent. Even the play on 'Oo' and 'U' and then 'su' and 'zu' was as per the sound of the consonants. I only wrote down the spelling changes to make the name change appear more clear. Names have a funny way of changing over the centuries.

In Japanese, Oo (sometimes written in romaji as ō) has a very different pronounciation from u. It's not pronounced like the 'oo' in book. It's a long o sound like "Oh." Ou would also be spelled ō and pronounced "oh." U or ū would be pronounced like the oo in "moo" (Like the word for the sound a cow makes).

So, phonetically the first syllable in Ootsutsuki's name would be the long o sound "Oh."

 

[Draxus]

As his sons were born ootsutsuki and they came to be known as senju as uchiha ancestors Besides, I already stated before, if the sage got his chakra from birth what tells you that the characteristics he had, did not classify them as what we later learned to be uzumaki's characteristics? I already posted that at my theory but you didn't answer. He might have been the first uzumaki without actually have the name. The idea that so many people believe what they see immediately is just ludicrous. Have you any idea how many things in this manga first depicted in a certain way and then changed completely? Kurama being devil himself, Itachi a mass murderer, Orochimaru as a maniac who slowly gets more and more logical, Obito being dead, Madara being Tobi, Nagato being akatsuki's leader. What makes you think that everything is so definite?

It's funny really how many people use as dogma that chapter in which Obito states senju and uchiha relationship to the sage as an undeniable fact and yet no one talks about older's son dojutsu which has a spirral patter identical to uzumaki. If Kishimoto wanted to end this once and for, he would have given to the elder son a mere sharingan. Yet he gave him a dojutsu with the spiral pattern specifically. Why from all the symbols chose this one?

Because he likes drawing spirals? I mean there all over the place in this manga.

 

[Byron123]

Because he likes drawing spirals? I mean there all over the place in this manga.

Lol spirrals are not just something random as you may think. He chose it to be specifically Uzumaki's symbol and it also became a part of Konoha's official clothes as a tribute to uzumaki as a symbol of senju and theirs' friendship and he evem gave it to son's elder jutsu and you say that all this is a random fetih of his?

 

[Meowazziel]

even if oosutsuki's descendants is uzumakis, that still dont make Rikudo an uzumaki, Rikudo was born as a ootsutsuki and will remain a ootsutsuki

Doesnt matter what name you give the person. The Uzumaki and Ootsutsuki are of the same blood and that is the whole point some people (including myself) are trying to make. If they are of the same blood, it doesnt matter if the Uuzmaki are called Ootsutsuki or that the sage is called an Uzumaki.

 

[Draxus]

Lol spirrals are not just something random as you may think. He chose it to be specifically Uzumaki's symbol and it also became a part of Konoha's official clothes as a tribute to uzumaki as a symbol of senju and theirs' friendship and he evem gave it to son's elder jutsu and you say that all this is a random fetih of his?

well obviously the Konoha symbol isn't, but he draw spirals on all kinds of other pics. Like color promo pics, the Shinju fruit, the EMS demon pic. All those other pics that Derp tried to say were proof the Sage was an Uzumaki. He just likes the design, nothing random about it. However you just looking for secret messages where non-exist. Kishi has no history of hiding clues in such a way in the past, so I'm not sure why people try to make him into something he's not.

If you look carefully the Elder Son's eye's aren't the same as the Uzumaki crest. Though they are both spirals they don't have the same amount of revolutions. Also the symbol comes from their home being in the land of whirlpools.

also "he even gave it to son's elder jutsu" no idea what that means, but sounds wrong :erm: