Reasons Senju>Uchiha in the past.

Mitarashi

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I find this whole "every senju gets huge stamina/vitality whilst not every Uchiha gets Sharingan" argument a load of bs. Ever considered the possibility that just as not every Uchiha gets the sharingan, not every Senju will have bijuu-like stamina likw Hashirama, and even if they did, they'd still have to train their ass off to take advantage of it. Having lots of chakra doesn't automatically make you a beast. You still have to master A and S rank techniques to take advantage of your chakra.
Uchihas on the other hand, get free OP techs with their sharingan. Well MS atleast. Their basic sharingan also allows them to see chakra and predict opponents' moves, making mastering jutsus a piece of cake. I honestly dont know how senju ended being the clan with a thousand skills. Probably laziness on the Uchihas' part.

Let's just assume that 70% of the Uchiha got their Sharingan, 5% got MS and Madara got EMS
We can also assume that ATLEAST 80% of the senju got the sages body, ect, every senju in the manga so far has, 1 of them has FTG and 1 of them has Mokuton/SM.

Unless it's MS/EMS the Senjus Vitality/strength was on par with or superior to the Sharingan
The MS users were few and far between, and the 2 at the time were countered by Tobirama/Hashirama easily. ( As shown when Tobirama KILLED one, and Hashirama beat Madara )

kagebushin ( Shadowclones ) You've seen how Naruto uses them so well. The Senju made the technique and I doubt that the Uchiha caught on to it very quickly ( But they obviously did mirror it after some time )

Edo tensi, If the Senju were to collect ONE dead MS user, they have an enormous advantage, spam Amaterasu/Susano'o and regerate.

I'm not saying the Uchiha are weak, far from it, It's just that the Senju had an advantage.
 

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She has 0 Feats.
'Renowned for her Genjutsu'

Just like Hiruzen was.
You can't put someone on the same level as Madara/Hashirama without feats.

I expected better from you, of all people.

Sorry you fail to read it. She was skilled in genjutsu and her POWER (S) were known through out other countries.

Now show me something that dehypes her hype.
 

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Sorry you fail to read it. She was skilled in genjutsu and her POWER (S) were known through out other countries.

Now show me something that dehypes her hype.

You're putting someone with 0 feats, I repeat 0 feats, on par with Madara/Hashirama

WTF is wrong with you?

'Show me something that de hypes her'

Sakura has more feats.
Tenten has more feats

This is truly sad.
Don't argue about the strength of someone who has never done anything.
 

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You're putting someone with 0 feats, I repeat 0 feats, on par with Madara/Hashirama

WTF is wrong with you?

'Show me something that de hypes her'

Sakura has more feats.
Tenten has more feats

This is truly sad.
Don't argue about the strength of someone who has never done anything.

Highly incorrect, you need to know what feats are.

Her being highly skilled in genjutsu = feat

Her being known throughout the world for her prowess = feat

Your the only one arguing here, I stated what Kishimoto himself stated. As I said before, why don't you simply name another Uchiha, who was known around the world for his prowess besides Madara?
 

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madaras dad didnt have ems or ms. i dont think anyone in the clan had ms at that point besides madara and izuna who gained it at a point very later in time. and my point being madaras dad who didnt have ms or ems was on par with hashis dad...so i dont think the 3 tome is the lack of there strength

Exactly, a 3tomeo user was on par with an Average senju.
only 2 Uchiha exceeded that at that point, there were bound to be many stronger than average Senju ( Like Hashirama/Tobirama)

Highly incorrect, you need to know what feats are.

Her being highly skilled in genjutsu = feat

Her being known throughout the world for her prowess = feat

Your the only one arguing here, I stated what Kishimoto himself stated. As I said before, why don't you simply name another Uchiha, who was known around the world for his prowess besides Madara?


HYPE IS NOT FEATS

HYPE = THINGS PEOPLE SAY
FEATS = THINGS PEOPLE HAVE DONE

Madara was feared by Bijuu!

'Madara and his brother Izuna made a name for themselves' they had brutal reputation.

Shisui the teleporter.

All these people have more hype AND more feats than her.

Untill she does something or is shown to have done something, she is on par with ton-ton.

You're right, you're not arguing at all, it's not even considered arguing when all you're doing is spouting nonsense that everyone here knows isn't true.
 
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People need to realize Uchiha also possessed POWERFUL chakras.....

Powerful chakras = Powerful jutsus.
 

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People need to realize Uchiha also possessed POWERFUL chakras.....

Powerful chakras = Powerful jutsus.

Unless they had MS the most powerful Jutsu they used were Katon.
For someone called 'Kinghashirama' you sure fanboy the Uchiha alot.

Senju>Uchiha
EMS Madara<Hashirama
Rinnegan Madara >= SM Hashirama

It's probably a bit hard to understand with that lil brain of yours.
 

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Hashirama > Madara
Tobirama > Izuna
Senju Clan > Uchiha Clan

SIMPLE
 
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